Should evolution be taught in high school?

Feb 24, 2008 | Posted by: Cash | Full story: www.scientificblogging.com

Microbiologist Carl Woese is well known as an iconoclast. At 79 years of age, Woese is still shaking things up. Most recently, he stated in an interview with Wired that...

"My feeling is that evolution shouldn't be taught at the lower grades. You don't teach quantum mechanics in the grade schools. One has to be quite educated to work with these concepts; what they pass on as evolution in high schools is nothing but repetitious tripe that teachers don't understand."
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Feb 13, 2013
 
Russell wrote:
Therefore
Darker skinned people are less evolved??
Russell wrote:
Yes?
Yes?
Here's a pygmy put on display in a zoo
Thanks to evolutionary doctrine
http://creation.com/ota-benga-the-pygmy-put-o...
That was over a hundred years ago, had nothing to do with Darwin and everything to do with creaturd interpretation of his work. You are lying again, why is that not surprising?
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FURTHERMORE
Please see...if you can bear to:
Hughes J F et al Chimpanzee and human Y chromosomes are remarkably divergent in structure and gene, Nature, Jan 13, 2010
"Indeed, at 6 million years of separation, the difference in MSY gene content in chimpanzee and human is more comparable to the difference in autosomal gene content in a chicken and human, at 310 millions years of separation".
All this phylogenetic stuff is rubbish anyway
Just like evolution
STUFF and NONSENSE
Too bad I know you have no idea what you are talking about, otherwise I might be impressed. <YAWN!!>

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Feb 13, 2013
 
Russell wrote:
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Yeah
Its all pretty airtight!
No
No it ain't
So now you propose that humans originated in Australia?
I like it
But no one else does
Now its a race between Europe, a new favorite, Africa an old favourite and Australia, my favourite
Even tho' its the usual evo-mumbo jumbo
Besides
That is precisely NOT what I am referring to when I mention my posts regarding HLA-DRB1 exon 2 vs introns 1-4
"Humans humans originated(sic) in Australia"?!?!?

Nooooo....

That's not what was proposed in the links I presented. I think you may want to re-read them.
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Feb 13, 2013
 
Russell wrote:
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Not if you don't want to
I'm cool either way
http://creation.com/evolutionary-racism
So, the Bible is proof of a God. Bones and monkey DNA proof of evolution. Than, a trillion galaxies proves that alien engineering is proof of human existence. Who made the aliens? The same ones who made God(s).

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Russell wrote:
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Not if you don't want to
I'm cool either way
http://creation.com/evolutionary-racism
"BASICS

1.The 66 books of the Bible are the written Word of God. The Bible is divinely inspired and inerrant throughout. Its assertions are factually true in all the original autographs. It is the supreme authority, not only in all matters of faith and conduct, but in everything it teaches.**Its authority is not limited to spiritual, religious or redemptive themes but includes its assertions in such fields as history and science**"

http://creation.com/about-us

If that's what you consider the final word as to 'history' or 'science', then there is little hope to speak with you on an intellectual level.

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Alien Outlaw wrote:
<quoted text>Not that you don't care. Not smart enough to absorb the truth. It takes intelligence to know intelligence. Human knowledge and technology along with text books will never be sufficient enough for contact.
Great. Prove it.

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LowellGuy wrote:
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Great. Prove it.
Apparently "Alien Outlaw" is **Special**.

(wink, wink -- nudge, nudge)
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Lowell Guy wrote:
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Great. Prove it.
A trillion galaxies in the universe. And, a bible character had nothing in creating any of it.....except in the minds of the primitive human.Who made aliens? Who made God? Proof....experience. Any pics or videos of God? Project God Book? SETI...searching for God? Evolution.....humans evolved from knuckle draggers.........Please, utilize the logic that the aliens provided. So, they left the human comprehension levels at near zero......think. Scientists know, Scientology knows and we know. Look around, humans label themselves "Experts"....really? The gullible human animal is easily brainwashed including the experts.

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Russell wrote:
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Now I know how Jonah felt....
So you are saying that you feel mythological. Oh, if that only were true.
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Kong_ wrote:
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"Humans humans originated(sic) in Australia"?!?!?
Nooooo....
That's not what was proposed in the links I presented. I think you may want to re-read them.
Its how evolutionary biologists have interpreted the paper regarding HLA-DRB

It all there on PubMed...

Again

Not what I was talking about in MY posts

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Its how evolutionary biologists have interpreted the paper regarding HLA-DRB
It all there on PubMed...
Again
Not what I was talking about in MY posts
Who wants to bet that Rusty has pulled a Maz? He read the abstract of an article and did not understand it.
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Subduction Zone wrote:
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Who wants to bet that Rusty has pulled a Maz? He read the abstract of an article and did not understand it.
Thanks for your valuable insights, Bud

H-E-T-E-R-O-P-L-A-S-M-Y
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Alien Outlaw wrote:
<quoted text>So, the Bible is proof of a God. Bones and monkey DNA proof of evolution. Than, a trillion galaxies proves that alien engineering is proof of human existence. Who made the aliens? The same ones who made God(s).
Trillion galaxies are just hydrogen and dirt
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Ooogah Boogah wrote:
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That was over a hundred years ago, had nothing to do with Darwin and everything to do with creaturd interpretation of his work. You are lying again, why is that not surprising?
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Too bad I know you have no idea what you are talking about, otherwise I might be impressed. <YAWN!!>
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
I so regret it EVERY TIME I break my cardinal rule NEVER to watch YouTube or associated TRASH RUBBISH sites proffered by animalutionists as "evidence" to support their flimsy desperate claims

This little picture does a better job of HIGHLIGHTING the differences between chimp and human MSY....

Without the elevator music...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/core/lw/2.0/html/...

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Russell wrote:
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Thanks for your valuable insights, Bud
H-E-T-E-R-O-P-L-A-S-M-Y
Yes, the fool is definitely pulling a Maz.

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Urban Cowboy wrote:
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With the starting premise of "nothing + nobody = everything", all science would be irrelevant.
There is no "starting premise" at all, chronologically. The only starting premise of science is that we can create meaningful theories from what is observed in the physical world, and this has proven to be a very powerful and useful premise to mankind.

We do not assume nothing + nobody = everything. We say...and it gets tiresome to repeat the obvious to you, but it never sinks in...we do not know. Our scientific knowledge of the world does not start from the "beginning", it starts from the most immediate and accessible observations and moves outward from there...including backward, more distant, smaller, larger, as far as the range of our observations and experiments and instruments and rational thought can take us.

Enough of this trite strawman n+n=e you keep popping out at irregular intervals. If anything, it merely shows how little you understand anything about science. But at least that would explain why you keep mistaking pseudoscience for the real thing.

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Russell wrote:
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I so regret it EVERY TIME I break my cardinal rule NEVER to watch YouTube or associated TRASH RUBBISH sites proffered by animalutionists as "evidence" to support their flimsy desperate claims
This little picture does a better job of HIGHLIGHTING the differences between chimp and human MSY....
Without the elevator music...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/core/lw/2.0/html/...
This must be so embarrassing to God. You would think that after Adam, and Noah, and Babel, and Sodom, etc, God might be getting a clue as to how to bring the best humans on-side. But all He seems to attract are cowards and liars for Jesus, snivelling little dorks who think its clever to trumpet Pascal's wager, or who are afraid to even look at the counter evidence to their scriptural delusions.

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Russell wrote:
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Funny ha ha
Cradling a limp SETMAR and rocking back and forth
...that's not the evidence I have been patiently seeking
Never mind
As per your immutable fanatical doctrine...
We have millions of years......
So
I'll wait

LOL. YOU seeking EVIDENCE!? As if.

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Notwithstanding the sudden appearance of fully formed creatures in the Cambrian WITH no ancestral fossils

Where do you get these lies????? ALL of the lifeforms of the Cambrian have ancestors in the Proterozoic (Ediacaran) period.

Read the above sentence again.

Now look it up if you need to.

That creatures appeared "fully formed" in the Cambrian with no ancestral fossils is a LIE. It is a KNOWN LIE.
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<quoted text> There should have been a huge amount of diversification, first to form new species, then new genera, then new families....then new phyla...as suggested by your evo-high priest Dawkins in regards to molluscs and crustaceans

There was. That is exactly what happened.
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<quoted text> Or: increasing diversity of the lower taxa --species---should preceded the disparity of the higher taxa---phyla--
Instead there is a wide disparity between the taxa and LOW species diversity
Otherwise put:
The disparity of the higher taxa---phyla---precedes the diversity of the lower taxa such as species
http://www.veritas-ucsb.org/JOURNEY/index-pal...
That's the whole point about the fossil record and the Cambrian in particular is that the phyla appear out of nowhere!

Again, a lie. It ignores the precambrian. It ignores the fact that over 99% of all species that have ever existed have gone extinct.
Russell wrote:
<quoted text> There is no record of a diversity of species becoming specialised over time into the different phyla

Another incorrect statement. Seriously, where do you get this stuff. Have you never had a real science class???
Russell wrote:
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Nested hierarchies and the like??
All of this phylogenetic 'science' is based on evolutionary assumptions

Why can't Russell learn? Nested hierarchies is not based on an assumption. Nested hierarchies are based on observations of the fossil record, of observations of living species, and is confirmed in the genetic record. Most creationists know that nested hierarchies and simply say (in some manor) goddoneit.
Russell wrote:
<quoted text> Check the literature out yourself
You get inconsistent, unreliable results because it is a bogus notion based on faulty assumptions

LOL. see above.
Russell wrote:
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Mutations are NOT enough to explain the diversity in nature

LOL. Again, you creationists don't even know the mechanisms of evolution of which mutation is only one. That is very funny.
Russell wrote:
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In additions, as I have routinely said
4.5 billions years ain't enough time......

Actually, it is more than enough time. Of bigger concern to science is why evolution typically occurs as slowly as it does.\



Bottom line. You don't know anything about evolution. You are a collage of creationist misinformation and disinformation. You are afraid of real science because you know what it shows so you stay as far away from it as possible.
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Alien Outlaw wrote:
<quoted text>Not that you don't care. Not smart enough to absorb the truth. It takes intelligence to know intelligence. Human knowledge and technology along with text books will never be sufficient enough for contact.
Which means only two things:

1 - You're an advanced alien who was dumb enough to blow his cover.

2 - You're a human who doesn't know a anything more about it than the rest of us and are therefore potentially certifiable.
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Russell wrote:
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Funny ha ha
Cradling a limp SETMAR and rocking back and forth
...that's not the evidence I have been patiently seeking
Never mind
As per your immutable fanatical doctrine...
We have millions of years......
So
I'll wait
And you will. You're waiting at a bus stop waiting for the Creation bus that's been derelict for centuries.

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