Should evolution be taught in high sc...

Should evolution be taught in high school?

There are 180382 comments on the www.scientificblogging.com story from Feb 24, 2008, titled Should evolution be taught in high school?. In it, www.scientificblogging.com reports that:

Microbiologist Carl Woese is well known as an iconoclast. At 79 years of age, Woese is still shaking things up. Most recently, he stated in an interview with Wired that...

"My feeling is that evolution shouldn't be taught at the lower grades. You don't teach quantum mechanics in the grade schools. One has to be quite educated to work with these concepts; what they pass on as evolution in high schools is nothing but repetitious tripe that teachers don't understand."

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“There is no Truth in Faith”

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#116529 Feb 9, 2013
Alien Outlaw wrote:
<quoted text>Ok, more to the point. Is earth the only planet in the entire known universe with life(earthlings, microbial or alien types....advanced alien types). Please, no text regurgitation.
Right, we "know" so little of the universe, it is like taking a glass of water from the ocean, looking in it, seeing nothing, then concluding there is no life in the ocean.

Does being a dumb butt come naturally? Or do you have to work at it?

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#116530 Feb 9, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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I prefer to dine on Perfectly Normal Beasts.
It does seem cruel to eat life that doesn't want to be eaten.
Mugwump

Manchester, UK

#116531 Feb 9, 2013
Alien Outlaw wrote:
<quoted text>Ok, more to the point. Is earth the only planet in the entire known universe with life(earthlings, microbial or alien types....advanced alien types). Please, no text regurgitation.
It seems unlikely that given the size of the universe that earth is the only planet in the u inverse that habours life.

Intelligent life is obviously less commons

Intelligent life that is 'close'' enough to be detected in the short time-frame we have had the technology - again less so.

AGAIN, what is your point ? Or are you charging by the word?
Alien Outlaw

Kansas City, MO

#116532 Feb 9, 2013
Mugwump wrote:
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It seems unlikely that given the size of the universe that earth is the only planet in the u inverse that habours life.
Intelligent life is obviously less commons
Intelligent life that is 'close'' enough to be detected in the short time-frame we have had the technology - again less so.
AGAIN, what is your point ? Or are you charging by the word?
Just pickin you brain, you seem to use it. Ok, lets focus on technologies that are possible, like manipulating brain activity. Lets say controlling the part of the brain that controls sleep. Could that technology be available to humans today? And, what would the average human think of them using that technology on the public?

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#116533 Feb 9, 2013
Alien Outlaw wrote:
<quoted text>Ok, more to the point. Is earth the only planet in the entire known universe with life(earthlings, microbial or alien types....advanced alien types). Please, no text regurgitation.

Probably not.

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#116534 Feb 9, 2013
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
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God promised that good obedient loving wives could be found in all corners of the Earth. Then he created the Earth in the shape of a sphere and laughed and laughed and laughed!!

Best proof of Gods existence is hearing laughter when you expect life to be fair.

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#116535 Feb 9, 2013
Alien Outlaw wrote:
<quoted text>Just pickin you brain, you seem to use it. Ok, lets focus on technologies that are possible, like manipulating brain activity. Lets say controlling the part of the brain that controls sleep. Could that technology be available to humans today? And, what would the average human think of them using that technology on the public?
You mean like religion?

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#116536 Feb 9, 2013
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
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It does seem cruel to eat life that doesn't want to be eaten.

Yes, but it seems creepy to meet the meat.

Mugwump

Manchester, UK

#116537 Feb 9, 2013
Alien Outlaw wrote:
<quoted text>Just pickin you brain, you seem to use it. Ok, lets focus on technologies that are possible, like manipulating brain activity. Lets say controlling the part of the brain that controls sleep. Could that technology be available to humans today? And, what would the average human think of them using that technology on the public?
Personally I think the brain is simply another organ, and if technology was available to 'control' it then it would go through the same moral debate as does with many technologies that effect 'free will'

Such advances of course are already used in the medical community to control some of the more extreme mental illnesses that afflict certain people.

But let me fast-track your argument - you are presumably suggesting that such technology is already being employed by aliens on the human race already.

So care to provide a coherent argument to support this - would just save a lot of time.

Anyway have to go - Zork has his probing rod out.

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#116538 Feb 9, 2013
Alien Outlaw wrote:
<quoted text>Humans have explored only 1% of the deep oceans. What in the world makes you think humans are ready for deep space exploration. Read about how human technology is not capable or adequate enough for contact.Wait, its not in text books ........cant read about it, cant comprehend it. Regurgitate all the info and stats known to man......good luck.
I never said we are ready for deep space exploration. There may or may not be a technology somewhere in the universe more advanced than ours.
Alien Outlaw

Kansas City, MO

#116539 Feb 9, 2013
Mugwump wrote:
<quoted text>
Personally I think the brain is simply another organ, and if technology was available to 'control' it then it would go through the same moral debate as does with many technologies that effect 'free will'
Such advances of course are already used in the medical community to control some of the more extreme mental illnesses that afflict certain people.
But let me fast-track your argument - you are presumably suggesting that such technology is already being employed by aliens on the human race already.
So care to provide a coherent argument to support this - would just save a lot of time.
Anyway have to go - Zork has his probing rod out.
You were doing just fine right up to the last statement. Again, SETI was established for what purpose?

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#116540 Feb 9, 2013
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
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God promised that good obedient loving wives could be found in all corners of the Earth. Then he created the Earth in the shape of a sphere and laughed and laughed and laughed!!
I like that!

Gonna borrow that line.

Thanks!
Alien Outlaw

Kansas City, MO

#116541 Feb 9, 2013
appleboy wrote:
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I never said we are ready for deep space exploration. There may or may not be a technology somewhere in the universe more advanced than ours.
Lets just for aurgument, say that a craft came within 10ft, put us(more than one)to sleep and cruzed over us without a sound. Could that in your mind ever be possible. Put on your tinfoil hat and try to think.
Mugwump

Manchester, UK

#116542 Feb 9, 2013
Alien Outlaw wrote:
<quoted text>You were doing just fine right up to the last statement. Again, SETI was established for what purpose?
Actually I apologise for the last line was probably unjust.

On SETI - was established to try and detect the 'artifacts' of intelligent life outside of the earth by Initally searching for non-natural patterns in the Stella 'noise'.

But you misunderstand, I am not saying that life dosent exist elsewhere (personally find it unlikely that it dosent - universe being huge and all) but that doesn't lead to aliens have obviously (as I suspect you are suggesting) visited us.

Anyway -again apologies for the Zork comment - but you got to admit, it was mildy amusing at least.
Alien Outlaw

Kansas City, MO

#116543 Feb 9, 2013
Mugwump wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually I apologise for the last line was probably unjust.
On SETI - was established to try and detect the 'artifacts' of intelligent life outside of the earth by Initally searching for non-natural patterns in the Stella 'noise'.
But you misunderstand, I am not saying that life dosent exist elsewhere (personally find it unlikely that it dosent - universe being huge and all) but that doesn't lead to aliens have obviously (as I suspect you are suggesting) visited us.
Anyway -again apologies for the Zork comment - but you got to admit, it was mildy amusing at least.
It was funny. I find knowledge and understanding of "Deep Space Aliens" at the level of when the paper was being made to write the Bible.Or, when finding fossels became scientific discoveries. One day, a scientists didnt just awake up and decide to ask Congress to fund SETI. It happened thru a series of events, sightings and Govt findings....not by accident.

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#116544 Feb 9, 2013
One way or another wrote:
The morons telling fortunes make claims they can never prove. They claim comets are billions of years old. Frikken morons.
Spin causes gravity.

Sorry, were you saying something?

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#116545 Feb 9, 2013
Alien Outlaw wrote:
<quoted text>It was funny. I find knowledge and understanding of "Deep Space Aliens" at the level of when the paper was being made to write the Bible.Or, when finding fossels became scientific discoveries. One day, a scientists didnt just awake up and decide to ask Congress to fund SETI. It happened thru a series of events, sightings and Govt findings....not by accident.
Which government agency is responsible for putting RFID chips into our bodies?
alan

Kansas City, MO

#116546 Feb 9, 2013
Lowell Guy wrote:
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Which government agency is responsible for putting RFID chips into our bodies?
Chips? That just one way of human tracking/study group infology. Their are more humans studying human behavior that human behavior can provide. They cant wait to control human thoughts and modify human behavior.....first they need the drug, they are working around the clock to control humans, only on Thursdays to find cures.

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#116547 Feb 9, 2013
One way or another wrote:
Everyone knows you're a liar dodger, because I challenged everyone and not one person here, could refute my red shift, blue shift facts.
No, not one person could be bothered arguing to your ignorance regarding red shift and blue shift facts. Your fantasies are so far off the mark that its a waste of time, as I have come to learn whether its global warming, the height of Eskimos, the fundamentals of gravity, red shift, the speed of light, or of course evolution.

All of these things have the following in common: you argue against the prevailing understanding from a position of extreme ignorance, and you do not even know the facts and theories you think you are arguing against.

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#116548 Feb 9, 2013
Russell wrote:
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Where are they supposedly being "created" now?
If billions of years old....and if the ones we see today were created billions of years ago...that would be a miracle
No evolutionary cosmologist believes that
Simple fact, Bro'
And I say "Bro'" since we, you and I, will be in eternity together...
Does take the shine off a little....? For me too
Naturally when eternity happens you will be a full blown Creationist...
But, have no fears
NO WAY will I make any snide remarks....
I swear!
Well....OK...
May be just a few snide remarks
Anyhoo
Comets lose so much mass by every "fly" past the sun they should have evaporated after a few tens of thousands of year
The concoction of hypothetical sources to replenish comets was the result of this fact
Depends what you mean by comets being created. The material - the orbiting rocks - are out at the edge of the solar system and have been since the beginning of the system. It makes sense that the material that far from the centre of the original gas cloud was too diffuse to form planets and remained in smaller chunks spread through space, so its hardly some weird anomaly made up by astronomers just to thwart creationists.

Actually, as an aside, what really is funny is that astronomers, biologists, geologists, for the most part just do their own thing and do not give a moment's thought to creationists. Then, when the creationists see that the scientists' theories are incompatible with their scripture, they all get up in arms about a conspiracy against them (or against "God" in their supremely arrogant way of identifying themselves as the REAL "Hezbollah", or translated, "Party of God").

Nothing could be further from the truth. Your mythical views are not even on the scientific radar, you are ignored. You only become significant to the scientific community when you make political noises and try to corrupt science teaching in school.

So, back to comets. When an orbit is disturbed by interaction of one of these rocks with another on the fringes of the solar system, it may come careening in towards the centre and we have a "comet". That is the understanding of science.

Where is your problem with that?

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