Should evolution be taught in high school?

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Microbiologist Carl Woese is well known as an iconoclast. At 79 years of age, Woese is still shaking things up. Most recently, he stated in an interview with Wired that...

"My feeling is that evolution shouldn't be taught at the lower grades. You don't teach quantum mechanics in the grade schools. One has to be quite educated to work with these concepts; what they pass on as evolution in high schools is nothing but repetitious tripe that teachers don't understand." Full Story

“I Am No One Else”

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Seattle

#115777 Feb 1, 2013
HTS wrote:
<quoted text>ERV's represent a classic failed prediction of Darwinism.
You are doing things backwards again. ERV's are part of the evidence of evolution and helped us to understand why some things didn't fit.
HTS

South Lake Tahoe, CA

#115778 Feb 1, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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In that case you should have no problem in addressing it then.
Oh, and I didn't say junk DNA (which was already addressed), I said ERV's. You uh, DO know the difference, don't you? Being a 4 year med student with a degree and all?
ERV's have long been labeled as junk DNA.
HTS

South Lake Tahoe, CA

#115779 Feb 1, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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Your claim was that most physicians reject evolution. So leave the goalposts where they are and back up your claim.
I don't have a scientific survey. I know that the majority of physicians I know think goo-to-you evolution is absurd. Any survey that you can site will invariably fail to define "evolution".

“I Am No One Else”

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Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#115780 Feb 1, 2013
HTS wrote:
<quoted text>I don't have a scientific survey. I know that the majority of physicians I know think goo-to-you evolution is absurd. Any survey that you can site will invariably fail to define "evolution".
Then you don't know many competent physicians.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#115781 Feb 1, 2013
HTS wrote:
<quoted text>ERV's have long been labeled as junk DNA.
So snap to it.(shrug)
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#115782 Feb 1, 2013
HTS wrote:
<quoted text>I don't have a scientific survey. I know that the majority of physicians I know think goo-to-you evolution is absurd.
Yeah, Markie says the same thing too. He's also a great big giant fat liar for Jesus. But since he lives in the Bible belt it could be one of those rare times he's telling the truth.

On the other hand, we can provide you with literally hundreds of thousands of peer-reviewed papers on the subject of evolution. Very few of which question the validity of evolution as a whole.
HTS wrote:
Any survey that you can site will invariably fail to define "evolution".
Change in allele frequencies over time. The fact is that life changes over time. We call this evolution. And we couldn't give two figs about your invisible magic Jew-wizard.

Unless of course you've finally managed to come up with a "scientific theory" of IDC for us?

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Didn't think so.

Level 6

Since: Aug 07

Arlington, VA

#115783 Feb 1, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Yeah, Markie says the same thing too. He's also a great big giant fat liar for Jesus. But since he lives in the Bible belt it could be one of those rare times he's telling the truth.
On the other hand, we can provide you with literally hundreds of thousands of peer-reviewed papers on the subject of evolution. Very few of which question the validity of evolution as a whole.
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Change in allele frequencies over time. The fact is that life changes over time. We call this evolution. And we couldn't give two figs about your invisible magic Jew-wizard.
Unless of course you've f
inally managed to come up with a "scientific theory" of IDC for us?
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Didn't think so.
Dude, you certainly have turned into a sour puss. Losing all the time must be much fun.

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Since: Aug 07

Arlington, VA

#115784 Feb 1, 2013
The Dude wrote:
On the other hand, we can provide you with literally hundreds of thousands of peer-reviewed papers on the subject of evolution.
Yes, on the subject. And not a one proves macroevolution true. Isn't it about time to consider an alternative?
Mugwump

Manchester, UK

#115785 Feb 1, 2013
HTS wrote:
<quoted text>If you want to get into the HIV/AIDS debate then be my guest... HIV has not "evolved"... Where are you getting your information?
Sorry you seem to have a problem with comprehension of the written word.- let me help you out ...

You said
HTS wrote:
<quoted text>Most physicians who actually practice science consider Darwinian evolution to be largely BS.
I and others asked you to back this up

You constantly ignore the point

Conclusion : you make shit up.

Sorry I REALLY don't see how I can dumb it down to your level anymore - maybe wax crayons?
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#115786 Feb 1, 2013
Urban Cowboy wrote:
<quoted text>
Dude, you certainly have turned into a sour puss. Losing all the time must be much fun.
Same old Dude as I've always been. Ain't lost to you yet.(shrug)
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#115787 Feb 1, 2013
Urban Cowboy wrote:
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Yes, on the subject. And not a one proves macroevolution true.
Why of course not. Ignoring of course the shedloads of inconvenient facts you've avoided for three years or something.
Urban Cowboy wrote:
Isn't it about time to consider an alternative?
Well I dunno. How about invisible magical Jewish wizards? That's scientific, right?
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#115788 Feb 1, 2013
Mugwump wrote:
Sorry I REALLY don't see how I can dumb it down to your level anymore
Cowboy could probably help.

(evil grin)
right

Kent, WA

#115789 Feb 1, 2013
appleboy wrote:
<quoted text>Something to ponder. If, say aliens are responsible for life on earth, what would be their point in hiding and leaving no trace of their existence? Life has been on the planet (still no evidence of how it came to be) for 3.5 billion years. It wouldn't make any difference to fish, frogs, deer or dogs whether or not aliens were on the planet, so why would they hide?

As we explore we leave our artifacts everywhere we go, the moon, mars, even on astroids. We don't try to cover our tracks on mars, hoping to fool some future life form into believing that goddidit.
Maybe they were dying out because their planet wasnt habitable anymore due to global warming so they found this place, tried to survive but couldnt so their leftover DNA mutated and then evolved and turned into earth life.
right

Kent, WA

#115790 Feb 1, 2013
HTS wrote:
<quoted text>I don't have a scientific survey. I know that the majority of physicians I know think goo-to-you evolution is absurd. Any survey that you can site will invariably fail to define "evolution".
Alien sperm goo could produce goo to you..i dont see why not...i live about an hour and a half from the south shore. Since the temps have been warmer during the day has the snow become slushy or is it still good for snowboarding?

“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

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#115791 Feb 1, 2013
Urban Cowboy wrote:
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I don't read it. I work 60-70 hours a week and spend nights and weekends on my hobbies playing guitar and science. Occasionally I get to go flying or scuba diving or boating. That's about all I have time for.

You mean anti-science

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#115793 Feb 1, 2013
Urban Cowboy wrote:
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Using the tools of operational science is a good thing and has nothing to do with evolution's attempt to interpret history.

"operational science" sounds great but in actually just creationist pseudoscience.
HTS

South Lake Tahoe, CA

#115794 Feb 1, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, Markie says the same thing too. He's also a great big giant fat liar for Jesus. But since he lives in the Bible belt it could be one of those rare times he's telling the truth.
On the other hand, we can provide you with literally hundreds of thousands of peer-reviewed papers on the subject of evolution. Very few of which question the validity of evolution as a whole.
<quoted text>
Change in allele frequencies over time. The fact is that life changes over time. We call this evolution. And we couldn't give two figs about your invisible magic Jew-wizard.
Unless of course you've finally managed to come up with a "scientific theory" of IDC for us?
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Didn't think so.
Transmutation from a worm to a man is not simple "changing allele frequencies", so why do you persist in irrelevant extrapolations?
As far as scientific evidence for God... Perhaps you could enlighten me on the significance of the Wheeler delayed choice experiment. How does your paradigm of atheism explain the existence of intelligence in photons of light?
HTS

South Lake Tahoe, CA

#115795 Feb 1, 2013
Mugwump wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry you seem to have a problem with comprehension of the written word.- let me help you out ...
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. I don't simply swallow whatever BS is out there on atheist websites. If you have some scientific evidence that HiV is "evolving", let's see it... I would be very interested.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

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#115796 Feb 1, 2013
HTS wrote:
<quoted text>. I don't simply swallow whatever BS is out there on atheist websites. If you have some scientific evidence that HiV is "evolving", let's see it... I would be very interested.
EVERY living thing is evolving, all the time, it never stops.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

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#115797 Feb 1, 2013
HTS wrote:
<quoted text>I don't have a scientific survey. I know that the majority of physicians I know think goo-to-you evolution is absurd. Any survey that you can site will invariably fail to define "evolution".
Could you provide a list of these physicians so that I can avoid them?

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