Should evolution be taught in high sc...

Should evolution be taught in high school?

There are 180300 comments on the www.scientificblogging.com story from Feb 24, 2008, titled Should evolution be taught in high school?. In it, www.scientificblogging.com reports that:

Microbiologist Carl Woese is well known as an iconoclast. At 79 years of age, Woese is still shaking things up. Most recently, he stated in an interview with Wired that...

"My feeling is that evolution shouldn't be taught at the lower grades. You don't teach quantum mechanics in the grade schools. One has to be quite educated to work with these concepts; what they pass on as evolution in high schools is nothing but repetitious tripe that teachers don't understand."

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“May you be at peace.”

Since: Nov 07

Mars

#115359 Jan 28, 2013
One way or another wrote:
What you prove you do not have, will be the same legacy you pass on to your children and grand children, congratulations.

Very transparent case of projection. So you are saying you feel like a failure to your family. Tell me more about that.

“May you be at peace.”

Since: Nov 07

Mars

#115360 Jan 28, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
<quoted text>
Delusional disorder, previously called paranoid disorder, is a type of serious mental illness called a "psychosis" in which a person cannot tell what is real from what is imagined. The main feature of this disorder is the presence of delusions, which are unshakable beliefs in something untrue. People with delusional disorder experience non-bizarre delusions, which involve situations that could occur in real life, such as being followed, poisoned, deceived, conspired against, or loved from a distance. These delusions usually involve the misinterpretation of perceptions or experiences. In reality, however, the situations are either not true at all or highly exaggerated.
People with delusional disorder often can continue to socialize and function normally, apart from the subject of their delusion, and generally do not behave in an obviously odd or bizarre manner. This is unlike people with other psychotic disorders, who also might have delusions as a symptom of their disorder. In some cases, however, people with delusional disorder might become so preoccupied with their delusions that their lives are disrupted.
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Grandiose: A person with this type of delusional disorder has an over-inflated sense of worth, power, knowledge, or identity. The person might believe he or she has a great talent or has made an important discovery.
( http://www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/guide/delu... )
Sorry, I'm not seeing how Jimbo here fits the description. Can you be more specific? ;)

Seriously?

“May you be at peace.”

Since: Nov 07

Mars

#115361 Jan 28, 2013
Delusional disorder,..in which a person cannot tell what is real from what is imagined.
=Jim

The main feature of this disorder is the presence of delusions, which are unshakable beliefs in something untrue.
=Jim

People with delusional disorder experience non-bizarre delusions, which involve situations that could occur in real life, such as being followed, poisoned, deceived, conspired against,....
=Jim


These delusions usually involve the misinterpretation of perceptions or experiences. In reality, however, the situations are either not true at all or highly exaggerated.
=Jim

People with delusional disorder often can continue to socialize and function normally, apart from the subject of their delusion, and generally do not behave in an obviously odd or bizarre manner.

=Jim (probably). We don't know how he functions in real life. We know he has done SOME things related to his delusions (carpet tacks), but don't have enough to see that it is out of control as in psychosis.

This is unlike people with other psychotic disorders, who also might have delusions as a symptom of their disorder. In some cases, however, people with delusional disorder might become so preoccupied with their delusions that their lives are disrupted.
=Jim

Grandiose: A person with this type of delusional disorder has an over-inflated sense of worth, power, knowledge, or identity.
=Jim
=Jim
=Jim
=Jim

The person might believe he or she has a great talent or has made an important discovery.
=Jim
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United States

#115362 Jan 28, 2013
If what you idiots say about me is true, you are just as sick for constantly responding to me. Lol

You morons
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United States

#115363 Jan 28, 2013
I post my original work over and over, partly to piss off you morons and that's working quite well and partly to find someone with a brain, that can actually argue the subjects.

Oh yea, I do it partly to play a game on your clique. You act as a childish clique, I keep posting my original work, while not one of you Evo morons have ever contributed even one thing in all the years you children have been acting out here.
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United States

#115364 Jan 28, 2013
Oh yea

Seeing back in time

Original work
By Jim Ryan
Supported by evidence

Science claims we are seeing back into time, some 14 billion years ago. Science claims that we can see that far back in time, because the light from those distant worlds and galaxies have been traveling here for those billions of years and that by such, we are looking back in time. That simply cannot be, according to science.

Simple light cannot carry images of those far off worlds and galaxies to our telescopes, meaning, our telescopes see out to that light, illuminating those entities, disproving relativity, gravitational lensing and light theory.

That's why I said, light cannot carry images of those worlds and galaxies, meaning, if their light speed and theory were true, we could see the light, but not the worlds or galaxies, because images cannot be carried on light.

former CIA Director, William Casey,“We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.”
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United States

#115365 Jan 28, 2013
Truth

Mid Atlantic mountains width

Original work
By Jim Ryan
Supported by evidence

I told you children to be aware of a game of chess. I kept you looking in one place, making you feel comfortable and getting you to do exactly what you did, thanks.

Now children, ask yourselves, how wide are the mountains at the mid Atlantic ridge? They surely aren't 67,500 miles wide
The width of the mountains should equal the movement of those plates and science claims that in one million years, the plates lose approximately 15 miles, so if the earth is 4.5 billion years old and one million divided into 4.5 billion is 4500, then multiply 15times 4500, which equals 67,500 miles of lost plate. The width of the mountains at the mid atl ridge is minuscule, so please explain how that can be, when the width of the mountain range should be, 67,500. as the mountain range is the only place that shows the addition of material.

Elohim

Branford, CT

#115366 Jan 28, 2013
One way or another wrote:
I post my original work over and over, partly to piss off you morons and that's working quite well and partly to find someone with a brain, that can actually argue the subjects.
Oh yea, I do it partly to play a game on your clique. You act as a childish clique, I keep posting my original work, while not one of you Evo morons have ever contributed even one thing in all the years you children have been acting out here.
You post fiction and fantasy. It's quite amusing and downright laughable.
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United States

#115369 Jan 28, 2013
It's too bad that not one of you can give reasoned thought to why my claims are wrong.
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United States

#115370 Jan 28, 2013
More

Moons reflectors bogus

Original work
By Jim Ryan
Supported by evidence

So, the moons reflectors are 239,000 miles from earth, approximately and since the speed of light is 186,000 miles per second, y'all must think that laser beam will get back to earth pretty fast. Actually, the light should return to earth from the moons reflectors in 1.3 seconds, with the reflectors designed to reflect the light back to the point it came from.

However, in the 1.3 seconds the light takes to return to its origin, the earth has moved approx 4,000 miles from the point source of light, according to sciences claim that our galaxy is traveling that fast in 1 second, making it impossible for science to capture any photons, at least according to science.

Science sure is messed up, thinking it can collect photons that are 4,000 miles behind the collector.

At least they depend on all of us being stupid enough to believe them. Well, at least the Evo morons here.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#115371 Jan 28, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Now try telling it to Urban Cowboy.
We've been doing that for nearly 3 years. It had the same effect as it did on Jimbo.

Jimbo is Cowboy's future...

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Since: Jul 09

Minneapolis

#115372 Jan 28, 2013
Alien Outlaw wrote:
<quoted text>Are you related to Marshall Apple White? Whats his claim to fame?
Nope. Appleboy (for me) is a reference to a poem written by Yevgeny Yevtushenko, "Stolen Apples". The poem is a quaint look at boys poaching a farmer's apple orchard, laughing in their retreat, their t-shirts bulging with stolen apples. I liked the image of innocence combined with mischief.

Applewhite, on the other hand, was a dark stain on humanity, luring his followers to their deaths.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#115373 Jan 28, 2013
One way or another wrote:
It's too bad that not one of you can give reasoned thought to why my claims are wrong.
Ah shaddap Jimbo.
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United States

#115374 Jan 28, 2013
Oops, my last post didn't all post, so here is the full version.

Since I posted this, NASA took down the web page below.

Funny, I prove NASA and Goddard must be stupid, according to their own web site.

Original work
By Jim Ryan
Supported by evidence
Moons reflectors bogus

So, the moons reflectors are 239,000 miles from earth, approximately and since the speed of light is 186,000 miles per second, y'all must think that laser beam will get back to earth pretty fast. Actually, the light should return to earth from the moons reflectors in 1.3 seconds, with the reflectors designed to reflect the light back to the point it came from.

However, in the 1.3 seconds the light takes to return to its origin, the earth has moved approx 4,000 miles from the point source of light, according to sciences claim that our galaxy is traveling that fast in 1 second, making it impossible for science to capture any photons, at least according to science.

Science sure is messed up, thinking it can collect photons that are 4,000 miles behind the collector.

At least they depend on all of us being stupid enough to believe them. Well, at least the Evo morons here.

Stupidity of NASA +Goddard

On the website,----http://eclipse.gsf c.nasa.gov/SEhelp/ApolloLaser . html
It claims,--------- scientists have been able to determine the round-trip travel time that gives the distance between the two bodies at any time to an accuracy of about 3 centimeters.
I say, WOW, what a marvel.
On to the next part.
Science claims,---"Lunar ranging involves sending a laser beam through an optical telescope," Dickey said. "The beam enters the telescope where the eye piece would be, and the transmitted beam is expanded to become the diameter of the main mirror, then bounced off the surface toward the reflector on the Moon."
The reflectors are too small to be seen from Earth, so even when the beam is precisely aligned in the telescope, actually hitting a lunar retroreflector array is technically challenging. At the Moon's surface the beam is roughly four miles wide. Scientists liken the task of aiming the beam to using a rifle to hit a moving dime two miles away.
I say,--------so now, with a laser light 4 miles wide and an exact location, probably sending out a beacon or should be, they complain like hell. So much for close, perhaps 500 pound bomb close.
Now here is a crucial piece to my complaint.--------
Once the laser beam hits a reflector, scientists at the ranging observatories use extremely sensitive filtering and amplification equipment to detect the return signal, which is far too weak to be seen with the human eye. Even under good atmospheric viewing conditions, only one photon is received every few seconds.
I say,------read that last sentence very carefully. One photon every few seconds.
Science doesn't say one or two seconds or a couple of seconds. Instead, science claims a FEW seconds, meaning, it took 3 or more seconds for the photon to go from the moon to the earth. That means, that the beam should have taken, 1.3 seconds and not a full 3 seconds or more as NASA and the Goddard space center claim.
Suck on that Evo morons.

Elohim

Branford, CT

#115375 Jan 28, 2013
One way or another wrote:
It's too bad that not one of you can give reasoned thought to why my claims are wrong.
It has been presented. You ignore it. We laugh at you. Go sniff some more cat piss and carpet dander.
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United States

#115376 Jan 28, 2013
Another

Spin electron rate earth gravity

Original work
By Jim Ryan
Supported by evidence

EDEE!

As everything is connected to everything and everyone, so too must earths spin and rotational rates, as well as electromagnetism and gravity.

From my perspective at this time, the reason science does not understand electromagnetisim or gravity, is because science cannot measure spin rate in electrons, so as to compare with the spin rate of the
Electrons in our bodies-- as a reason we do not feel the spinning of the earth and more.

The possibility exists that electrons spin correlates to either the earths spin rate on its axis, the rotational rate around our barycenter or possibly a combination.

If science were to use earths spin rate first, in doing test within the electromagnetic field, it may reveal much more. Do the electrons in our bodies spin at 1000 miles per hour and is that the reason we don't feel the earth spinning as it does?

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United States

#115377 Jan 28, 2013
Gravity

Original work
Jim Ryan
Supported by evidence

Look to the space junk that NASA wants to possibly incinerate in space. It must be in a high orbit not to fall back to earth. That suggests that gravity is keeping it there, unlike space junk that is in lower orbits. There are two forces in gravity, one is attraction and one is repulsion. I will explain. The planets must sit in the suns high orbits, considering their mass, keeping them from falling into the sun, just as the space junk does not fall back to earth from its high orbit around the earth.

The same applies to all planets orbiting suns , with respect to their mass and size, as the rocky worlds settled into their orbits, while the much larger planets settled further out, because they don't need as much gravity to hold their places. The suns repulsion gets stronger the closer a planet gets to it. That's why the smaller rocky planets with less mass in many cases, get closer to the sun. Pluto's size and mass leave Pluto where it belongs.

Try also to consider not only how all but one of our planets align, according to mass and size, but how each one, supposedly blasted into existence during the Big Bang, but how each so easily slipped into its orbit. Don't you think we'd have at least a few crushed worlds hanging around somewhere?

Looking at mercury, for it's size and mass, it fits my hypothesis.

Venus fits, it is 10% smaller than earth.

Earth fits correctly.

Mars is one sixth the mass. While its diameter is half of earths., so that is questionable

Jupiter's diameter is over ten times greater than the Earth's, but
It has over 300 times the mass.

The question becomes, does circumference trump mass in my gravities repulsion theory. Looking at the gas giants, I'd say yes, but I have more to consider.

Saturn's diameter is about nine times greater than the Earth's
It has 95 times the mass, which means it falls in place behind Jupiter, correctly.

Uranus' diameter is four times that of the Earth's and
It has 15 times the mass.
That falls in line with my theory

Neptune's diameter is slightly less than four times that of the Earth's
It has 17 times the mass.

Neptune seems out of place and I don't know why

Pluto's diameter less than 20 percent that of the Earth's (smaller than the Earth's Moon)
It has less than one percent the mass.
That falls in line with my hypothesis.

There are easy ways to test whether a planet sits in a higher or lower orbit, by comparing the fields to earths. All it would take is releasing space junk in each planets orbits, according to earths orbits. If objects spin away in a comparable high orbit, then that planet is sitting in a lower orbit, than earth.

If junk is released in what our orbits show as low, but the junk stays there, that planet is sitting in a higher orbit.

It is likely that the height of each planets high and low orbits will differ.

Each planets orbits will likely be influenced not only by its higher or lower orbit, but also by mass, circumference, distance from the sun and the depth each planet sits in its orbit, so testing would not be so easy.

Hypothesis by ,--

Jim Ryan

Ok
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United States

#115378 Jan 28, 2013
Poor children, never had even one new thought in all the years they've been here. It easy to understand their jealousy.
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United States

#115379 Jan 28, 2013
Test/ speed of light theory

More new science by Jim Ryan

If science really wanted to test speed of light theory, science could add a simple laser light to any of its probes and when the probe got say a million miles away from earth, it could send its laser light back to earth, one aimed at American collectors one at Russian collectors and one at another countries collectors, unless science is afraid to know the truth.
How is it that not one scientist in the whole world thought of such already? Are they all morons or does science just not want to know?


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Since: Jul 09

Minneapolis

#115380 Jan 28, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
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You are so hung up on the obsession with appearing original that I can assume this was the only way you got attention from your mother.
It would seem that his mother eventually gave up all hope of teaching him any practical skills and settled for appeasement.

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