Should evolution be taught in high school?

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Microbiologist Carl Woese is well known as an iconoclast. At 79 years of age, Woese is still shaking things up. Most recently, he stated in an interview with Wired that...

"My feeling is that evolution shouldn't be taught at the lower grades. You don't teach quantum mechanics in the grade schools. One has to be quite educated to work with these concepts; what they pass on as evolution in high schools is nothing but repetitious tripe that teachers don't understand." Full Story

“That's just MY opinion...”

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#115019 Jan 23, 2013
One way or another wrote:
The morons here claim that it takes a year to form one varve.
It takes 10 millimeters to make one centimeter. In the piece below, science states that one millimeter is equal to one varve. That means that it would have taken 10 years to form that pure layer of ash.
That also means that during those 10 years, no leaves, no grass, no sticks, no sand, no bugs, no nothing came into the lake.
That's not possible, so science is lying, big time.
I wonder if some sort of unique event might have greatly increased the amount of particulate matter in the atmosphere. That could possibly result in a larger than normal layer of sunken material in the lake. The article identifies the material as "volcanic glass", but doesn't suggest how all that material could have gotten up in the air all at once. Hmmm... Very mysterious.
Mugwump

Manchester, UK

#115020 Jan 23, 2013
MADRONE wrote:
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I wonder if some sort of unique event might have greatly increased the amount of particulate matter in the atmosphere. That could possibly result in a larger than normal layer of sunken material in the lake. The article identifies the material as "volcanic glass", but doesn't suggest how all that material could have gotten up in the air all at once. Hmmm... Very mysterious.
If only the link Jim posted could shed some light on it (and by light I DON'T mean images as they are totally different things)

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#115021 Jan 23, 2013
MADRONE wrote:
I wonder if some sort of unique event might have greatly increased the amount of particulate matter in the atmosphere. That could possibly result in a larger than normal layer of sunken material in the lake. The article identifies the material as "volcanic glass", but doesn't suggest how all that material could have gotten up in the air all at once. Hmmm... Very mysterious.
I went back and looked at your first link and it mentions "volcanic eruptions". That could be a possible explanation. Y'think?
One way or another

United States

#115022 Jan 23, 2013
Lake varves

If you answer intelligently, I might stop posting this. Lol,

So you childish morons are too stupid to answer? Lmao

The following is a scientific claim, see if you can pick out its stupidity.

Here is an example of an ash layer from one of the cores of Lake Suigetsu. This ash layer is more than 1cm thick (the varves are less than 1mm each) and is composed almost almost pure volcanic glass. The purity suggests that it resulted from ash falling from the sky into this very placid lake and quickly sinking to the bottom. This image is from the Suigetsu web page: http://www.suigetsu.org/embed.php ...

The morons here claim that it takes a year to form one varve.

It takes 10 millimeters to make one centimeter. In the piece below, science states that one millimeter is equal to one varve. That means that it would have taken 10 years to form that pure layer of ash.
That also means that during those 10 years, no leaves, no grass, no sticks, no sand, no bugs, no nothing came into the lake.

That's not possible, so science is lying, big time.

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Since: Aug 07

Plant City, FL

#115023 Jan 23, 2013
The hate fest continues...
One way or another

United States

#115024 Jan 23, 2013
In the above post, the word above, should replace the word, below

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Since: May 08

Orlando

#115025 Jan 23, 2013
One way or another wrote:
Lake varves
If you answer intelligently, I might stop posting this. Lol,
So you childish morons are too stupid to answer? Lmao
The following is a scientific claim, see if you can pick out its stupidity.
Here is an example of an ash layer from one of the cores of Lake Suigetsu. This ash layer is more than 1cm thick (the varves are less than 1mm each) and is composed almost almost pure volcanic glass. The purity suggests that it resulted from ash falling from the sky into this very placid lake and quickly sinking to the bottom. This image is from the Suigetsu web page: http://www.suigetsu.org/embed.php ...
The morons here claim that it takes a year to form one varve.
It takes 10 millimeters to make one centimeter. In the piece below, science states that one millimeter is equal to one varve. That means that it would have taken 10 years to form that pure layer of ash.
That also means that during those 10 years, no leaves, no grass, no sticks, no sand, no bugs, no nothing came into the lake.
That's not possible, so science is lying, big time.
Wow.

Just.....wow.

Do people have to dress you in the morning?

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Since: Mar 12

Dubai, UAE

#115026 Jan 23, 2013
One way or another wrote:
Keep pretending you morons didn't speak a lot about varves in the past here, deceit is all you Evo morons have.
Somebody might have. It wasn't me, I only just found out what a varve is.

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Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#115027 Jan 23, 2013
Mugwump wrote:
<quoted text>
If only the link Jim posted could shed some light on it (and by light I DON'T mean images as they are totally different things)
Maybe this will help:
http://thenaturalhistorian.com/2012/11/12/var...

Jimbozo can't even get his links right.
One way or another

United States

#115028 Jan 23, 2013
The following shows the ash layer

http://thenaturalhistorian.com/2012/11/12/var...

So you childish morons are too stupid to answer? Lmao

The following is a scientific claim, see if you can pick out its stupidity.

Here is an example of an ash layer from one of the cores of Lake Suigetsu. This ash layer is more than 1cm thick (the varves are less than 1mm each) and is composed almost almost pure volcanic glass. The purity suggests that it resulted from ash falling from the sky into this very placid lake and quickly sinking to the bottom. This image is from the Suigetsu web page: http://www.suigetsu.org/embed.php ...

The morons here claim that it takes a year to form one varve.

It takes 10 millimeters to make one centimeter. In the piece below, science states that one millimeter is equal to one varve. That means that it would have taken 10 years to form that pure layer of ash.
That also means that during those 10 years, no leaves, no grass, no sticks, no sand, no bugs, no nothing came into the lake.

That's not possible, so science is lying, big time.

“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

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#115029 Jan 23, 2013
One way or another wrote:
The morons here claim that it takes a year to form one varve.
It takes 10 millimeters to make one centimeter. In the piece below, science states that one millimeter is equal to one varve. That means that it would have taken 10 years to form that pure layer of ash.
That also means that during those 10 years, no leaves, no grass, no sticks, no sand, no bugs, no nothing came into the lake.
That's not possible, so science is lying, big time.

ROTFLMFAO.

Are you aware that water is wet, or is even that beyond you?
LowellGuy

United States

#115030 Jan 23, 2013
One way or another wrote:
Lake varves
If you answer intelligently, I might stop posting this. Lol,
So you childish morons are too stupid to answer? Lmao
The following is a scientific claim, see if you can pick out its stupidity.
Here is an example of an ash layer from one of the cores of Lake Suigetsu. This ash layer is more than 1cm thick (the varves are less than 1mm each) and is composed almost almost pure volcanic glass. The purity suggests that it resulted from ash falling from the sky into this very placid lake and quickly sinking to the bottom. This image is from the Suigetsu web page: http://www.suigetsu.org/embed.php ...
The morons here claim that it takes a year to form one varve.
It takes 10 millimeters to make one centimeter. In the piece below, science states that one millimeter is equal to one varve. That means that it would have taken 10 years to form that pure layer of ash.
That also means that during those 10 years, no leaves, no grass, no sticks, no sand, no bugs, no nothing came into the lake.
That's not possible, so science is lying, big time.
What part of "volcanic eruption" do you not understand?

“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

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#115031 Jan 23, 2013
One way or another wrote:
The morons here claim that it takes a year to form one varve.

That is the VERY DEFINITION of varve.

"A layer or series of layers of sediment deposited in a body of still water in one year."

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/varve

Definition means definition.

Period.

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Seffner, FL

#115032 Jan 23, 2013
One way or another wrote:
You're welcome.

But still stupid.

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Seffner, FL

#115033 Jan 23, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
<quoted text>
What part of "volcanic eruption" do you not understand?
Pretty much everything, it seems. Jimbo has misunderstood every thing he's attempted. No reason for him to be any different this time.

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Since: May 08

Orlando

#115034 Jan 23, 2013
<<sigh>> I'll take a stab at it, Jimmy.

The "1mm varve" thickness is the AVERAGE thickness accumulated during an AVERAGE, UNEVENTFUL year.

If there is an EXTRAORDINARY EVENT.....say, ummmm A FRICKIN VOLCANO that is erupting nearby, it will deposit MUCH MORE sediment into the lake, and will result in a MUCH THICKER LAYER between the annual varves.

In the case you're describing, many 'uneventful' years were interrupted by a volcano that deposited a bunch of ash that resulted in volcanic glass when it cooled down, and compressed under subsequent 'uneventful' years sediments.

My DOG could pick this up after first read.

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#115035 Jan 23, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
<quoted text>
What part of "volcanic eruption" do you not understand?

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."--Hunter S. Thompson

Level 6

Since: Mar 12

Dubai, UAE

#115036 Jan 23, 2013
One way or another wrote:
The following shows the ash layer
http://thenaturalhistorian.com/2012/11/12/var...
So you childish morons are too stupid to answer? Lmao
The following is a scientific claim, see if you can pick out its stupidity.
Here is an example of an ash layer from one of the cores of Lake Suigetsu. This ash layer is more than 1cm thick (the varves are less than 1mm each) and is composed almost almost pure volcanic glass. The purity suggests that it resulted from ash falling from the sky into this very placid lake and quickly sinking to the bottom. This image is from the Suigetsu web page: http://www.suigetsu.org/embed.php ...
The morons here claim that it takes a year to form one varve.
It takes 10 millimeters to make one centimeter. In the piece below, science states that one millimeter is equal to one varve. That means that it would have taken 10 years to form that pure layer of ash.
That also means that during those 10 years, no leaves, no grass, no sticks, no sand, no bugs, no nothing came into the lake.
That's not possible, so science is lying, big time.
Not if there was an extraordinary event, like a volcanic eruption. In that year, a whole centimeter could easily be laid down, even if the normal deposit rate was only a millimeter.
Mugwump

Manchester, UK

#115037 Jan 23, 2013
Dogen wrote:
<quoted text>
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."--Hunter S. Thompson
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."
- Martin Luther King Jr

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Since: Jul 09

Minneapolis

#115038 Jan 23, 2013
MikeF wrote:
<quoted text>
Ryan's stupid.
Stupid + mad = funny.

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