Should evolution be taught in high sc...

Should evolution be taught in high school?

There are 179697 comments on the www.scientificblogging.com story from Feb 24, 2008, titled Should evolution be taught in high school?. In it, www.scientificblogging.com reports that:

Microbiologist Carl Woese is well known as an iconoclast. At 79 years of age, Woese is still shaking things up. Most recently, he stated in an interview with Wired that...

"My feeling is that evolution shouldn't be taught at the lower grades. You don't teach quantum mechanics in the grade schools. One has to be quite educated to work with these concepts; what they pass on as evolution in high schools is nothing but repetitious tripe that teachers don't understand."

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“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#115074 Jan 24, 2013
Mugwump wrote:
<quoted text>
Fair comment - I guess deep down I realise he is this [email protected] up, just my more compassionate side hopes he is playing us as the alternative is too sad for words

We can always hope.
One way or another

United States

#115075 Jan 24, 2013
The Evo children just don't comprehend, but what can you expect from children that choose to ignore the facts and choose to be idiots.

Lake varves

If you answer intelligently, I might stop posting this. Lol,

So you childish morons are too stupid to answer? Lmao

The following is a scientific claim, see if you can pick out its stupidity.

Here is an example of an ash layer from one of the cores of Lake Suigetsu. This ash layer is more than 1cm thick (the varves are less than 1mm each) and is composed almost almost pure volcanic glass. The purity suggests that it resulted from ash falling from the sky into this very placid lake and quickly sinking to the bottom. This image is from the Suigetsu web page: http://www.suigetsu.org/embed.php ...

The morons here claim that it takes a year to form one varve.

It takes 10 millimeters to make one centimeter. In the piece below, science states that one millimeter is equal to one varve. That means that it would have taken 10 years to form that pure layer of ash.
That also means that during those 10 years, no leaves, no grass, no sticks, no sand, no bugs, no nothing came into the lake.

That's not possible, so science is lying, big time.

“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#115076 Jan 24, 2013
One way or another wrote:
The Evo children just don't comprehend, but what can you expect from children that choose to ignore the facts and choose to be idiots.
Lake varves
If you answer intelligently, I might stop posting this. Lol,
So you childish morons are too stupid to answer? Lmao
The following is a scientific claim, see if you can pick out its stupidity.
Here is an example of an ash layer from one of the cores of Lake Suigetsu. This ash layer is more than 1cm thick (the varves are less than 1mm each) and is composed almost almost pure volcanic glass. The purity suggests that it resulted from ash falling from the sky into this very placid lake and quickly sinking to the bottom. This image is from the Suigetsu web page: http://www.suigetsu.org/embed.php ...
The morons here claim that it takes a year to form one varve.
It takes 10 millimeters to make one centimeter. In the piece below, science states that one millimeter is equal to one varve. That means that it would have taken 10 years to form that pure layer of ash.
That also means that during those 10 years, no leaves, no grass, no sticks, no sand, no bugs, no nothing came into the lake.
That's not possible, so science is lying, big time.

Hey, you know how many mm in a cm!

Isn't that special?

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#115077 Jan 24, 2013
One way or another wrote:
The Evo children just don't comprehend, but what can you expect from children that choose to ignore the facts and choose to be idiots.
Lake varves
If you answer intelligently, I might stop posting this. Lol,
So you childish morons are too stupid to answer? Lmao
The following is a scientific claim, see if you can pick out its stupidity.
Here is an example of an ash layer from one of the cores of Lake Suigetsu. This ash layer is more than 1cm thick (the varves are less than 1mm each) and is composed almost almost pure volcanic glass. The purity suggests that it resulted from ash falling from the sky into this very placid lake and quickly sinking to the bottom. This image is from the Suigetsu web page: http://www.suigetsu.org/embed.php ...
The morons here claim that it takes a year to form one varve.
It takes 10 millimeters to make one centimeter. In the piece below, science states that one millimeter is equal to one varve. That means that it would have taken 10 years to form that pure layer of ash.
That also means that during those 10 years, no leaves, no grass, no sticks, no sand, no bugs, no nothing came into the lake.
That's not possible, so science is lying, big time.
Several people HAVE answered you, myself included.
It's just YOU are much too stupid and pig-headed to comprehend that what the article says is NOT AN ISSUE.

I have houseplants that can figure your 'problem' out.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Level 5

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#115078 Jan 24, 2013
One way or another wrote:
The Evo children just don't comprehend, but what can you expect from children that choose to ignore the facts and choose to be idiots.
Lake varves
If you answer intelligently, I might stop posting this. Lol,
So you childish morons are too stupid to answer? Lmao
The following is a scientific claim, see if you can pick out its stupidity.
Here is an example of an ash layer from one of the cores of Lake Suigetsu. This ash layer is more than 1cm thick (the varves are less than 1mm each) and is composed almost almost pure volcanic glass. The purity suggests that it resulted from ash falling from the sky into this very placid lake and quickly sinking to the bottom. This image is from the Suigetsu web page: http://www.suigetsu.org/embed.php ...
The morons here claim that it takes a year to form one varve.
It takes 10 millimeters to make one centimeter. In the piece below, science states that one millimeter is equal to one varve. That means that it would have taken 10 years to form that pure layer of ash.
That also means that during those 10 years, no leaves, no grass, no sticks, no sand, no bugs, no nothing came into the lake.
That's not possible, so science is lying, big time.
There is no way to "answer" a stupid question "intelligently". Go away!!
nemesis

Kansas City, MO

#115079 Jan 24, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Nemesis, I have no problem with the likelihood that in this universe of 10^23 star systems, there is other life and perhaps even intelligent life and life that has more advanced technology than ours.
On the other hand "rare earth" analysis shows instances of intelligent life are likely to be very few and far between.
Even so, its POSSIBLE that everything you said is true. However, as we know of many cases where people were deluded into thinking they saw something they did not, etc, and as there are no reliable, verified sightings or interactions with "UFOS" or aliens, its still a far higher likelihood that you were mistaken.
Sorry, but that is how it is. I would not be astonished if aliens turned up. But I am still skeptical of claims with nothing more substantial than personal testimonies. I hear such testimonies about angels, ghosts, tree spirits, and demons too, but do not believe them either! On every street corner in India, you will see some Guru that the locals swear can levitate, and they all have friend who saw it happen, etc, etc.
The well known and documented unreliability of unsupported human testimony is WHY a rational skeptic has to see a lot more than that to believe a claim.
I was skeptical before it happened. We were not out looking for anything.....it came to us. It forced itself in our world. We crested a hill and there it was on a high power line, it turned. It had a white light on the front and was hovering 15ft off the ground. It than put us to sleep. Prior to that moment my friend said, "There is something in the road ahead." And, then it/they put us to sleep. As we awoke it was in front of us @ 10ft cruisin @ 2-3 mph slowly over us. The bottom of the craft was filled with glowing red panels 6" x 2' not rotating, just slowly passing over us without a sound. I have an extensive background in aviation technologies. So, please don't tell me we were hallucinating. We both know what we saw. My friend could care less about anything that flies and she was curtain it was not of this world. I agreed with her. I have many, many hours of aviation experience. What I saw and felt was beyond words. My conclusion is it was a probe, we created a hill and surprised it. Its reaction was to incapacitate us, see we were not a threat and move on. To be honest we just want answers. We know it difficult to comprehend. It happened. Big C you of all people must understand. I did work in close proximity with nukes for awhile. They said that may be the reason for the encounter.
One way or another

United States

#115080 Jan 24, 2013
See

The Evo children just don't comprehend, but what can you expect from children that choose to ignore the facts and choose to be idiots.

Lake varves

If you answer intelligently, I might stop posting this. Lol,

So you childish morons are too stupid to answer? Lmao

The following is a scientific claim, see if you can pick out its stupidity.

Here is an example of an ash layer from one of the cores of Lake Suigetsu. This ash layer is more than 1cm thick (the varves are less than 1mm each) and is composed almost almost pure volcanic glass. The purity suggests that it resulted from ash falling from the sky into this very placid lake and quickly sinking to the bottom. This image is from the Suigetsu web page: http://www.suigetsu.org/embed.php ...

The morons here claim that it takes a year to form one varve.

It takes 10 millimeters to make one centimeter. In the piece below, science states that one millimeter is equal to one varve. That means that it would have taken 10 years to form that pure layer of ash.
That also means that during those 10 years, no leaves, no grass, no sticks, no sand, no bugs, no nothing came into the lake.

That's not possible, so science is lying, big time.
One way or another

United States

#115081 Jan 24, 2013
It is

Lenski's antibiotic claim.

Original work
By Jim Ryan
Supported by evidence

Lenski and or lederberg should have had the sense to reversed the experiment, to show that when 10 million antibiotic resistantt bacteria were cultured, they produced one that was non antibiotic resistant. One or both should have cultured 10 million bacteria that were non resistant, to see if an antibiotic resistant bacteria developed.
Bacteria may develop both every 10 millionth one as a memory device. If so, that should tell science quite a lot.

One way or another

United States

#115082 Jan 24, 2013
Ok

Immunology

More original science by Jim Ryan

In the following I would suggest that science study children that rarely wear shoes or don't wear shoes at all. I would divide the study into different nations or groups of nations with basically, the same diseases.

I would divide the shoeless-- because of intense poverty, from the people and children that choose to go shoeless and those that rarely or almost never go without shoes.

I might look at the data as the mostly shoeless by desire as mentally and possibly physically, stronger and therefore, more resistant to disease, unless science finds differently.

It may be that kids and people exposed to the pathogens in the dirt, grass and mud puddles on a constant basis, build stronger immune systems, at least for those that choose to go barefoot.
One way or another

United States

#115083 Jan 24, 2013
Yea

The science of running by Jim Ryan.

Yes, I used to run 10 miles a day for about 2 years. For whatever reason, I started counting a cadence in my head, that matched the cadence of my footfalls and my breathing, which synced body and mind, helping me to get into a trance like state, allowing me to run mile after mile without stress and the last mile I could run almost flat out.

I know they teach different things today, but give my method a try, I think you'll like it. By the way, keep your eyes focused just in front of you, on the ground.

The cadence in running I used to use was, "one two three one", " one two three two", "one two three three", and keep going.

It's a 4 count breathing in and then a 4 count breathing out.

Happy running.

“Help religion science wander”

Level 9

Since: Jan 11

into the night.

#115084 Jan 24, 2013
One way or another wrote:
Ok
Immunology
More original science by Jim Ryan
In the following I would suggest that science study children that rarely wear shoes or don't wear shoes at all. I would divide the study into different nations or groups of nations with basically, the same diseases.
I would divide the shoeless-- because of intense poverty, from the people and children that choose to go shoeless and those that rarely or almost never go without shoes.
I might look at the data as the mostly shoeless by desire as mentally and possibly physically, stronger and therefore, more resistant to disease, unless science finds differently.
It may be that kids and people exposed to the pathogens in the dirt, grass and mud puddles on a constant basis, build stronger immune systems, at least for those that choose to go barefoot.
Who is Jim Ryan?

“Help religion science wander”

Level 9

Since: Jan 11

into the night.

#115085 Jan 24, 2013
nemesis wrote:
<quoted text>I was skeptical before it happened. We were not out looking for anything.....it came to us. It forced itself in our world. We crested a hill and there it was on a high power line, it turned. It had a white light on the front and was hovering 15ft off the ground. It than put us to sleep. Prior to that moment my friend said, "There is something in the road ahead." And, then it/they put us to sleep. As we awoke it was in front of us @ 10ft cruisin @ 2-3 mph slowly over us. The bottom of the craft was filled with glowing red panels 6" x 2' not rotating, just slowly passing over us without a sound. I have an extensive background in aviation technologies. So, please don't tell me we were hallucinating. We both know what we saw. My friend could care less about anything that flies and she was curtain it was not of this world. I agreed with her. I have many, many hours of aviation experience. What I saw and felt was beyond words. My conclusion is it was a probe, we created a hill and surprised it. Its reaction was to incapacitate us, see we were not a threat and move on. To be honest we just want answers. We know it difficult to comprehend. It happened. Big C you of all people must understand. I did work in close proximity with nukes for awhile. They said that may be the reason for the encounter.
Emesis, my guess is that you created some meth and that incapacitated you and made you see things.
nemesis

Kansas City, MO

#115086 Jan 24, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>Emesis, my guess is that you created some meth and that incapacitated you and made you see things.
Good one! Wrong quess. Try again. This time think....On second thought, Dan go read the Bible and bow your head, you really dont want to know whats out there......it aint God!

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Level 5

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#115087 Jan 24, 2013
nemesis wrote:
<quoted text>Good one! Wrong quess. Try again. This time think....On second thought, Dan go read the Bible and bow your head, you really dont want to know whats out there......it aint God!
Ignorance won't protect you from anything. The ostrich plan of head in sand is not useful no matter how many ostriches find comfort in it.

Better to investigate if there even is an "out there".
nemesis

Kansas City, MO

#115088 Jan 24, 2013
Oogah Boogah wrote:
<quoted text>
Ignorance won't protect you from anything. The ostrich plan of head in sand is not useful no matter how many ostriches find comfort in it.
Better to investigate if there even is an "out there".
OB has neurons firing on all cylinders. Honestly, I went to a catholic school for 4 yrs. I don't recall the Bible saying anything about to many galaxies to comprehend "out there"....right? Don't you think that in all Gods infinite wisdom that he would have mentioned to the Bible writers something like, "And, I created an infinite number of galaxies in the universe!" Instead, the world was flat....flat? And, they nailed this guy to a cross...really? Come on, humans are closing the Bible and chasing Alien contact, earth-like worlds "out there" and thinking maybe Aliens are the real creators.....not a fictional character God, like Santa and the Easter Bunny both have religious backgrounds.....weird!

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

I'm a racist caricature!

#115089 Jan 24, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>Who is Jim Ryan?
One Way Or Another, aka Pet Whisperer, aka Carpet Whisperer, aka Psychology, aka Jim Ryan, aka resident legitimately batshit insane loon.

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

I'm a racist caricature!

#115090 Jan 24, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>Emesis, my guess is that you created some meth and that incapacitated you and made you see things.
Heh...you called him "puke."
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#115091 Jan 25, 2013
And for our entertainment on this thread we got Jimbo's massive Jewish conspiracies and a guy who got abducted by aliens!
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#115092 Jan 25, 2013
nemesis wrote:
I did work in close proximity with nukes for awhile. They said that may be the reason for the encounter.
Probably.

“Don't get me started”

Level 1

Since: Jul 09

Minneapolis

#115093 Jan 25, 2013
Mugwump wrote:
<quoted text>
Hate to say it but am wavering towards Poe again.
NOONE can read the clarifications that have been presented and NOT get it through his thick skull.
Either that or he just doesn't read others posts as it gets in the way of his carpet bombing of nonsense.
If he REALLY doesn't get it he is a danger to himself
He gets it--well, most of the time he gets it as long as there aren't too many numbers to add + subtract. But the issues are less important than the ROLE he wants to establish. People run to get facts, which he ignores. In his mind that's like he's being a parent brushing off a child's silly efforts for attention. It's likely that it's what he got from teachers in his ten failing years of education. He wants to turn that around, and from his point of view it's working.

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