Should evolution be taught in high sc...

Should evolution be taught in high school?

There are 180392 comments on the www.scientificblogging.com story from Feb 24, 2008, titled Should evolution be taught in high school?. In it, www.scientificblogging.com reports that:

Microbiologist Carl Woese is well known as an iconoclast. At 79 years of age, Woese is still shaking things up. Most recently, he stated in an interview with Wired that...

"My feeling is that evolution shouldn't be taught at the lower grades. You don't teach quantum mechanics in the grade schools. One has to be quite educated to work with these concepts; what they pass on as evolution in high schools is nothing but repetitious tripe that teachers don't understand."

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#114625 Jan 18, 2013
It is claimed that all forms of EM radiation travel at the speed of light, but science refuses to prove such to the general public, in any of its forms, while science claims images can travel on light , which any child studying science will know that, is a total lie.
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#114626 Jan 18, 2013
Prove an image can be carried on light alone.
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#114627 Jan 18, 2013
Radio waves may not be blocked in the same ways that light waves can be, but even then, science refuses to prove such.

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#114628 Jan 18, 2013
Urban Cowboy wrote:
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Circular logic nonsense. Use the damn formula.
Urb, you don't know what you are talking about. In any case, my result is not disagreeing with yours so what's your problem?

The question of repeated halvings is a damned easy one. Sorry if my approach based on the logic of the situation (and yielding the same result as your precious formula) is over your head. This merely indicates to me that you are a rote learner who flounders whenever you cannot find the solution in a text book and does not understand the underlying logic but merely memorises, thinking that that equates to understanding.

Now I get why things like the nested hierarchy, which actually requires some thinking, are beyond you.

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#114629 Jan 18, 2013
Urban Cowboy wrote:
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Agree that is under ideal conditions so naturally half-life would be something less than 521 years.
False again. The 521 figure was taken from an analysis of dead Moa bones. That means, something dropped dead in the wild and enjoyed some form of partial preservation. Not ideal conditions at all, more like the typical conditions of decay we would expect from a sample on its way to rotting into nothing - not even a fossil.

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#114630 Jan 18, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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Scott Woodward accidentally sequenced HUMAN DNA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Woodward
This is why no one with a brain trusts ICR
That's hilarious!

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#114631 Jan 18, 2013
Mugwump wrote:
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Nah, when it comes to number progressions its a piece of American Beer (sorry could resist)
Not all American beer is crap. Just a lot of it is.

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#114632 Jan 18, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
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A good 'daily' beer you can pick up is Yuengling Black & Tan.
Not bad, even IF it's a rip-off of the original (Guiness & Bass).
There ya go!

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#114633 Jan 18, 2013
One way or another wrote:
It is claimed that all forms of EM radiation travel at the speed of light, but science refuses to prove such to the general public, in any of its forms, while science claims images can travel on light , which any child studying science will know that, is a total lie.
Go study any basic physics and science will prove "such". Light is just part of the whole spectrum of electromagnetic radiation, which includes everything from the longest radio waves, to microwaves, to infrared, to light, to ultraviolet light, to x-rays, to gamma radiation.

They are all the same thing - PHOTONS - and the only difference is the wavelength. Longer wavelength (lower energy, radio end), to shorter wavelengths (higher energy, gamma end). On any test ever conducted, the speed of all these wavelengths in a vacuum is the same.

And it does not matter squat whether the vacuum is truly "empty" or contains dark matter and dark energy, as they do not interact with photons (which is why they are dark, and hard to detect). The photons pass right through at the speed of light (which should really be called "the speed of electromagnetic radiation".

Not only that but here is another anti-vacuum argument for you.

Scientists know that what we call empty space is also suffused - constantly but at the sub Planck level, with a sea of virtual particle-anti-particle pairs that flash into and out of existence spontaneously trillions of times a second. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it for a while!

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#114634 Jan 18, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
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I am with those pale ales too. Used to be a great double hop one down in NZ called Emerson's. Over here, its all Heineken etc, not that I am complaining.
Heineken is the only beer I found everywhere. US, Europe, Asia, Africa. One hell of a marketing and distribution system.

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#114635 Jan 18, 2013
One way or another wrote:
All the Evo motons must be queers if all the people that don't agree with them are creationists, so your new fudge packing label is ready for you.
Must be drunken rant time again.

What happened to that 'why can't we all get along' speech, Jimbo?

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#114636 Jan 18, 2013
Elohim wrote:
<quoted text>Pretty much sums it up, but he is an expert on cat piss carpets.
Mark your calenders: Next week is the one year anniversary of Jimmy falling on his ass.(And my birthday)

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#114637 Jan 18, 2013
One way or another wrote:
It is claimed that all forms of EM radiation travel at the speed of light, but science refuses to prove such to the general public, in any of its forms, while science claims images can travel on light , which any child studying science will know that, is a total lie.

Light ** IS ** EM radiation. The ONLY difference is the wave length. They all travel at the same speed.

There is TONS of research on the speed of electromagnetic radiation. All our satellites functioning and information is dependent on this speed being a constant of just under 300 k/s.

http://www.lbl.gov/MicroWorlds/ALSTool/EMSpec...

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#114638 Jan 18, 2013
One way or another wrote:
Prove an image can be carried on light alone.

An image IS light alone.

You want me to prove water is wet, too?

How about who is buried in Grants Tomb?

Who committed the "murder" in the Sherlock Holmes story "Silver Blaze"?

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#114639 Jan 18, 2013
One way or another wrote:
Radio waves may not be blocked in the same ways that light waves can be, but even then, science refuses to prove such.

Translation: You refuse to look up the proof of such.

Not the same thing.

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#114640 Jan 18, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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Light ** IS ** EM radiation. The ONLY difference is the wave length. They all travel at the same speed.
There is TONS of research on the speed of electromagnetic radiation. All our satellites functioning and information is dependent on this speed being a constant of just under 300 k/s.
http://www.lbl.gov/MicroWorlds/ALSTool/EMSpec...
No, Jimbo is utterly certain that the speed of light was measured JUST ONCE in a 20 meter vacuum tube or whatever.

His utter ignorance of the history and methods of science, along with any basic scientific knowledge, is abysmal. Shall we let him in on the little secret that the speed of light has been measured thousands of times in hundreds of ways? Or just enjoy watching him hoist himself on his own petard again, and again, and again?

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#114641 Jan 18, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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Heineken is the only beer I found everywhere. US, Europe, Asia, Africa. One hell of a marketing and distribution system.
And most of the time, it'll do me just fine. Great hot weather beer...we get a fair bit of that around here...

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#114642 Jan 18, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
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Go study any basic physics and science will prove "such". Light is just part of the whole spectrum of electromagnetic radiation, which includes everything from the longest radio waves, to microwaves, to infrared, to light, to ultraviolet light, to x-rays, to gamma radiation.
They are all the same thing - PHOTONS - and the only difference is the wavelength. Longer wavelength (lower energy, radio end), to shorter wavelengths (higher energy, gamma end). On any test ever conducted, the speed of all these wavelengths in a vacuum is the same.
And it does not matter squat whether the vacuum is truly "empty" or contains dark matter and dark energy, as they do not interact with photons (which is why they are dark, and hard to detect). The photons pass right through at the speed of light (which should really be called "the speed of electromagnetic radiation".
Not only that but here is another anti-vacuum argument for you.
Scientists know that what we call empty space is also suffused - constantly but at the sub Planck level, with a sea of virtual particle-anti-particle pairs that flash into and out of existence spontaneously trillions of times a second. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it for a while!

His argument would be like someone saying that big waves that wash up on the shore are not of the same nature as the little waves that wash up on the shore.

He is that ________(fill in the blank).

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#114643 Jan 18, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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Heineken is the only beer I found everywhere. US, Europe, Asia, Africa. One hell of a marketing and distribution system.

Heineken is pretty good, but not as good as the hype.

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#114644 Jan 18, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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Mark your calenders: Next week is the one year anniversary of Jimmy falling on his ass.(And my birthday)

Happy Birthday a week early.

and Happy Billionaire day to Jimmy.

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