Should evolution be taught in high sc...

Should evolution be taught in high school?

There are 180376 comments on the www.scientificblogging.com story from Feb 24, 2008, titled Should evolution be taught in high school?. In it, www.scientificblogging.com reports that:

Microbiologist Carl Woese is well known as an iconoclast. At 79 years of age, Woese is still shaking things up. Most recently, he stated in an interview with Wired that...

"My feeling is that evolution shouldn't be taught at the lower grades. You don't teach quantum mechanics in the grade schools. One has to be quite educated to work with these concepts; what they pass on as evolution in high schools is nothing but repetitious tripe that teachers don't understand."

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obesity

Rancho Cordova, CA

#113333 Jan 3, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>I order to learn the whole of what the scientific method has given us, a person would have to live more than 10 lifetimes. That's 1,000 years in case you failed math as well, and a lifespan averages nearly 100 now only because of those who specialize in certain medical sciences.

In other words, as Kong said, you,d be amazed at what we do know.
The last class I would ever fail is math..I actually have to use it everyday in order to make money and pay taxes, you on the other hand have all this knowledge yet don't hold a job or make any contribution to society..like I said earlier people like u will die first when the crap hits the fan..your huge amount of knowledge in one area won't be able to save you..pretty sad .. I'm not amazed at what we know because in the grand scheme of things it is so little. With how "advanced" we are, the smartest scientist can't even find the missing link because they are actually closed minded..it could be right under our noses.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Level 5

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#113334 Jan 3, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
.... I'm asexual, their attraction to me is meaningless, unless they have something to offer in intelligence or a commercial product/service, I have no interest in even knowing they exist.
Ach!! Me poor lonesome Willie!!
obesity

Rancho Cordova, CA

#113335 Jan 3, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>I order to learn the whole of what the scientific method has given us, a person would have to live more than 10 lifetimes. That's 1,000 years in case you failed math as well, and a lifespan averages nearly 100 now only because of those who specialize in certain medical sciences.

In other words, as Kong said, you,d be amazed at what we do know.

And by saying failed math AS WELL you are assuming I've failed classes..I've never failed a single class..you might be surprised to find out I even passed my college chem course with a B- which is good for me
obesity

Rancho Cordova, CA

#113336 Jan 3, 2013
Kitten, try getting laid..it does a body good, but of course someone with your intelligence would already know that..and loose the purple lipstick, it makes you look like Marilyn Manson

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#113337 Jan 3, 2013
obesity wrote:
<quoted text>
The last class I would ever fail is math..I actually have to use it everyday in order to make money and pay taxes, you on the other hand have all this knowledge yet don't hold a job or make any contribution to society..like I said earlier people like u will die first when the crap hits the fan..your huge amount of knowledge in one area won't be able to save you..pretty sad .. I'm not amazed at what we know because in the grand scheme of things it is so little. With how "advanced" we are, the smartest scientist can't even find the missing link because they are actually closed minded..it could be right under our noses.
So many assertions yet you lack evidence of all of them. How do you "know" I don't have a job? Don't you ever wonder what the people who make it possible for you to use a computer do when we're working out a code problem? Well, hi. I have a huge amount of knowledge in an area that is in very high demand, actually. But you are professing to have a lot of knowledge in multiple areas, that would mean you are older than 100 years, because as I said, in order for anyone to study everything, you'd have to live a minimum of 10 lifetimes.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#113338 Jan 3, 2013
obesity wrote:
Kitten, try getting laid..it does a body good, but of course someone with your intelligence would already know that..and loose the purple lipstick, it makes you look like Marilyn Manson
First, why would I care about sex? I have no physical or mental desires or need for it. Secondly, I do like Marylin, I often wish I was him, it's why I tried to be male at one time, I idolized him when I was younger, now I just look up to him. Sad that you disapprove of people being unique, your life must suck if you care that much.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#113339 Jan 3, 2013
obesity wrote:
<quoted text>
And by saying failed math AS WELL you are assuming I've failed classes..I've never failed a single class..you might be surprised to find out I even passed my college chem course with a B- which is good for me
B-? Meh. I studied in highschool "chem" what you studied in college, if you made it at least 4 years of chemistry. My highschool teacher saw my spark of interest in the subject and nurtured that curiosity, as he loved students who actually liked the subject. Chemistry was pretty simple to me, for some reason I just understood it almost as much as I understand technology, all machines actually. My father nurtured my love of technology as well, by introducing me to the combustion engine when I was but a child.

You want to turn this into a pissing contest, I may do that sitting, but you will still lose.
obesity

Rancho Cordova, CA

#113340 Jan 3, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
You try to fill in the holes of knowledge with a made up assertion, we just say we don't know. That inherently makes you a liar, and us far more honest.
nope, im open to all ideas and i dont fill in holes..i say "what if." as far as i know our entire universe could simply be a booger in a giant beings nose and that giant beings universe may be a dandruff flake on another giants beings head..you cant say that it is or isnt true..you can just assume that it is not and say that its scientific truth. i do find it very arrogant for humans to believe they are the only life form out there.
obesity

Rancho Cordova, CA

#113341 Jan 3, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
First, why would I care about sex? I have no physical or mental desires or need for it. Secondly, I do like Marylin, I often wish I was him, it's why I tried to be male at one time, I idolized him when I was younger, now I just look up to him. Sad that you disapprove of people being unique, your life must suck if you care that much.
LOL..i cant believe I actually nailed that. If you idolize marylin then you are younger than i thought, which explains a lot.
obesity

Rancho Cordova, CA

#113342 Jan 3, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
B-? Meh. I studied in highschool "chem" what you studied in college, if you made it at least 4 years of chemistry. My highschool teacher saw my spark of interest in the subject and nurtured that curiosity, as he loved students who actually liked the subject. Chemistry was pretty simple to me, for some reason I just understood it almost as much as I understand technology, all machines actually. My father nurtured my love of technology as well, by introducing me to the combustion engine when I was but a child.
You want to turn this into a pissing contest, I may do that sitting, but you will still lose.
like I said..getting a b- in college chem was good for ME..you do have a little problem with comprehension...understanding machines isnt that complicated...i ve worked with machinery since i was 16 ( i actually got paid for it). while you excel in a few areas, you are totally ignorant in other important areas. even though you are asexual, you should still try it once..let your hair down, you dont want to be a spinster

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#113343 Jan 3, 2013
obesity wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL..i cant believe I actually nailed that. If you idolize marylin then you are younger than i thought, which explains a lot.
I'm 38.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Level 5

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#113344 Jan 3, 2013
obesity wrote:
<quoted text>
nope, im open to all ideas and i dont fill in holes..i say "what if." as far as i know our entire universe could simply be a booger in a giant beings nose and that giant beings universe may be a dandruff flake on another giants beings head..you cant say that it is or isnt true..you can just assume that it is not and say that its scientific truth. i do find it very arrogant for humans to believe they are the only life form out there.
No, you are wrong. We are all characters in a dream belonging to a mushroom sleeping in a steaming pile of dung.

Prove it ain't so!!
obesity

Rancho Cordova, CA

#113345 Jan 3, 2013
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
<quoted text>
No, you are wrong. We are all characters in a dream belonging to a mushroom sleeping in a steaming pile of dung.
Prove it ain't so!!
I cant because it is a possibility. science cant prove that it isnt a possibility.
obesity

Rancho Cordova, CA

#113346 Jan 3, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm 38.
and Im Michael Jackson..if you are really 38 then you have the brain of a genius and the mentality of a 16 year old...you're very pale, have you ever had your vitamin D levels checked? the doctors say a lot of people are low in it these days and its making people very sick.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Level 5

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#113347 Jan 3, 2013
obesity wrote:
<quoted text>
I cant because it is a possibility. science cant prove that it isnt a possibility.
Leprechauns and fairies are dancing under your house.
Level 6

Since: Aug 07

United States

#113348 Jan 3, 2013
Macroevolution. You may not like the word. But it does separate fact from fantasy. Tell you what. Answer this question. Has a change from one kind of organsim into another different kind of organism ever been observed? If not, then it hasn't been observed. We haven't observed macroevolution. And if we haven't observed it then it's not even in the realm of science. It's not even science. It's an ideology. Or a religion. And a strong one at that.

“Evil Atheist :-)”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#113349 Jan 3, 2013
Urban Cowboy wrote:
Macroevolution. You may not like the word. But it does separate fact from fantasy. Tell you what. Answer this question. Has a change from one kind of organsim into another different kind of organism ever been observed? If not, then it hasn't been observed. We haven't observed macroevolution. And if we haven't observed it then it's not even in the realm of science. It's not even science. It's an ideology. Or a religion. And a strong one at that.
Define a different organism.
In what way is a cat a different organism from a dog?

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Level 5

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#113350 Jan 3, 2013
Urban Cowboy wrote:
Macroevolution. You may not like the word. But it does separate fact from fantasy. Tell you what. Answer this question. Has a change from one kind of organsim into another different kind of organism ever been observed? If not, then it hasn't been observed. We haven't observed macroevolution. And if we haven't observed it then it's not even in the realm of science. It's not even science. It's an ideology. Or a religion. And a strong one at that.
Every organism, living and dead are "transitory" forms in the evolutionary process. Just look in a mirror, you'll see one.
Mugwump

Bradford, UK

#113351 Jan 3, 2013
Urban Cowboy wrote:
Macroevolution. You may not like the word. But it does separate fact from fantasy. Tell you what. Answer this question. Has a change from one kind of organsim into another different kind of organism ever been observed? If not, then it hasn't been observed. We haven't observed macroevolution. And if we haven't observed it then it's not even in the realm of science. It's not even science. It's an ideology. Or a religion. And a strong one at that.
And as I have pointed out before this is sheer double standards, you claim creation science is legitimate even though it's proponents (DI, AIG et al) presuppose the creation event and the existence of a deity (specifically YOUR deity) which has never been observed.

Is hypocrisy the 11th commandment ?
Level 6

Since: Aug 07

United States

#113352 Jan 3, 2013
Mugwump wrote:
<quoted text>
And as I have pointed out before this is sheer double standards, you claim creation science is legitimate even though it's proponents (DI, AIG et al) presuppose the creation event and the existence of a deity (specifically YOUR deity) which has never been observed.
Is hypocrisy the 11th commandment ?
Well, let's see about that. Fair is fair. But first, do agree that macroevolution has not been observed?

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