Should evolution be taught in high sc...

Should evolution be taught in high school?

There are 179697 comments on the www.scientificblogging.com story from Feb 24, 2008, titled Should evolution be taught in high school?. In it, www.scientificblogging.com reports that:

Microbiologist Carl Woese is well known as an iconoclast. At 79 years of age, Woese is still shaking things up. Most recently, he stated in an interview with Wired that...

"My feeling is that evolution shouldn't be taught at the lower grades. You don't teach quantum mechanics in the grade schools. One has to be quite educated to work with these concepts; what they pass on as evolution in high schools is nothing but repetitious tripe that teachers don't understand."

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“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

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#111458 Dec 8, 2012
Psychology wrote:
Type into your browser,--"sciences analogy of gravity", to find that science, dodger and chimney, don't have a leg to stand on.

That's nice. Please stay away from sharp objects.
Psychology

Jacksonville, FL

#111459 Dec 8, 2012
Dogen wrote:
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This is garbage math. As the moon gets further away it recedes faster. What this is doing is assuming the current recession was always true.
It is the sort of mistake no real scientist would/should ever make.
Where is your math and why haven't you posted it already, since by your words, you claim such?

Oh, you just like to insinuate others are any kind of wrong, with no proof.

You are poor indeed, but that's just your dodger.

“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

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#111460 Dec 8, 2012
Psychology wrote:
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Where is your math and why haven't you posted it already, since by your words, you claim such?
Oh, you just like to insinuate others are any kind of wrong, with no proof.
You are poor indeed, but that's just your dodger.

Where is your math and why haven't you posted it already, since by your words, you claim such?

Oh, you just like to insinuate others are any kind of wrong, with no proof.

You are poor indeed, but that's just your dodger.

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Since: Mar 12

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#111461 Dec 8, 2012
Urban Cowboy wrote:
God Created us so he can destroy us if we disobey bad enough.
Sending a flood, a plague, etc.

But that is NOT the same thing as commanding some humans to mass slaughter some other humans, now is it? Especially when laying down the Commandment that "Thou shalt not murder"?

Can't you see the moral difference between humans accepting the judgement of God (e.g. a tsunami) versus going out and using God's Orders as their excuse to commit mass murder? Tell you what, even if God really did tell Moses to go out and kill every last one of them (except the yummy virgins), if Moses was a MORAL man he should have told God to do his own dirty work.

Its funny how someone like you who complains that humanists suffer from "moral relativism" can try to pull the biggest moral relativism stunt imaginable!

The genocides of Moses and Hitler were morally equivalent, and there is no relativist excuse that is going to change that.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Level 9

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#111462 Dec 8, 2012
Urban Cowboy wrote:
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I think you are confused. You are the one who thinks they know best who should live and who must die and you are the one who is advocating killing innocent lives not me. I am not in a position to control anyone. I am just telling you how I feel about it. I also think you should educate yourself better on the state of the unborn child - especially late term and partial birth and the grissly procedures performed to kill it and the severe pychological effects on the mother and others. There is a strong abortion-suicide link. Plus there is a very long wait to adopt. Loving the child is always better than killing it. As far as legallity goes, maybe it's better to keep it legal for safety reasons and hopefully parents will teach their children loving ways so they make wise decisions regarding relationships.
You write:
“I think you are confused. You are the one who thinks they know best who should live and who must die and you are the one who is advocating killing innocent lives not me. I am not in a position to control anyone. I am just telling you how I feel about it.”

I do not think I know best who should live or die; why in hell would you say such a stupid thing?? And I do not advocate killing innocent lives, again, why would you say such a stupid thing?

This is rhetoric designed to misdirect those who you are trying to mislead. The owner of the body who wants an abortion is the arbiter of whether the FETUS will live or not. It is not a viable life when abortion is available.

You say:
“. I am just telling you how I feel about it. I also think you should educate yourself better on the state of the unborn child - especially late term and partial birth and the grissly <sic>procedures performed to kill it and the severe pychological <sic>effects on the mother and others.”

Not your (or my) problems…you have no horse in this race…stay out of it.

You say:
“There is a strong abortion-suicide link. Plus there is a very long wait to adopt. Loving the child is always better than killing it.”

Again, this is not your problem…stay out of other people’s business. And it IS NOT killing a child…can you possibly ever understand this, or will you continue in you ignorance forever?

You say:
“As far as legality<sic> goes, maybe it's better to keep it legal for safety reasons and hopefully parents will teach their children loving ways so they make wise decisions regarding relationships.”

Yes, keeping safe and legal abortions available is the humane thing to do, as it is known for a fact that women will seek abortion no matter what, and the ‘back-alley’ ones will always be obtainable, and dangerous. I would not want a pregnant daughter to seek illegal help to abort an unwanted pregnancy, no matter what the cause.

Women are autonomous, not chattel.™

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Level 9

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#111463 Dec 8, 2012
Bat Foy wrote:
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Oh I pray my daughter is never faced with rape situation I can tell you I haven't always been a nice man and my kids are the the one way to drive me to kill. I think I would support her if she decided to abort I would love her no matter the choice but I would like to think if she were to have the child and keep it or adopt it out I would feel proud of her too. My daughter isn't biologically mine her dad raped my wife when my wife was 16 my daughter doesn't know and her mother and I won't EVER tell her.
I agree with you on all of this.:-)

“Don't get me started”

Level 1

Since: Jul 09

Minneapolis

#111464 Dec 8, 2012
Dogen wrote:
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Closer. It is the contention that he is karmic result of A buddha (not THE buddha). Buddhism does not believe in a soul to be reborn.
<sigh> Ok. But this puts my wierd idea about "life" being one of the dimensions of the original singularity one step closer to be in the relm of probability. I might try to sell the notion that the evolutlion of life is the karmic result of the big bang.
defender

Tucker, GA

#111465 Dec 8, 2012
appleboy wrote:
<quoted text><sigh> Ok. But this puts my wierd idea about "life" being one of the dimensions of the original singularity one step closer to be in the relm of probability. I might try to sell the notion that the evolutlion of life is the karmic result of the big bang.
That would work out better than the other theory (hogwash)... Sad but true...

“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

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#111466 Dec 8, 2012
appleboy wrote:
<quoted text>
<sigh> Ok. But this puts my wierd idea about "life" being one of the dimensions of the original singularity one step closer to be in the relm of probability. I might try to sell the notion that the evolutlion of life is the karmic result of the big bang.

It obviously would be.

“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

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#111467 Dec 8, 2012
defender wrote:
<quoted text>
That would work out better than the other theory (hogwash)... Sad but true...

Dunning-Kruger Effect.

Level 1

Since: Dec 06

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#111468 Dec 8, 2012
Bat Foy wrote:
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No most abortions were in DC New York held a close second. If you want I can give you a link to it. The least amount were in Idaho. Something else I found interesting was that 36% of the abortions in the US were African American and some 70% of the abortions in New York were African American. I'm in no way racist but its beginning to look a lot like genocide.
Bat Foy new friend

I heard it on television, and now looked it up, Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood was a racist, and started the Negro Project....Clinics were set up close to African Americans for abortions....She believed in eugenics(sterilizing "unfit").

She is revered as a saint by Planned Parenthood advocates, and pro-abortionists....
Level 6

Since: Aug 07

United States

#111469 Dec 8, 2012
thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>
You write:
“I think you are confused. You are the one who thinks they know best who should live and who must die and you are the one who is advocating killing innocent lives not me. I am not in a position to control anyone. I am just telling you how I feel about it.”
I do not think I know best who should live or die; why in hell would you say such a stupid thing?? And I do not advocate killing innocent lives, again, why would you say such a stupid thing?
This is rhetoric designed to misdirect those who you are trying to mislead. The owner of the body who wants an abortion is the arbiter of whether the FETUS will live or not. It is not a viable life when abortion is available.
You say:
“. I am just telling you how I feel about it. I also think you should educate yourself better on the state of the unborn child - especially late term and partial birth and the grissly <sic>procedures performed to kill it and the severe pychological <sic>effects on the mother and others.”
Not your (or my) problems…you have no horse in this race…stay out of it.
You say:
“There is a strong abortion-suicide link. Plus there is a very long wait to adopt. Loving the child is always better than killing it.”
Again, this is not your problem…stay out of other people’s business. And it IS NOT killing a child…can you possibly ever understand this, or will you continue in you ignorance forever?
You say:
“As far as legality<sic> goes, maybe it's better to keep it legal for safety reasons and hopefully parents will teach their children loving ways so they make wise decisions regarding relationships.”
Yes, keeping safe and legal abortions available is the humane thing to do, as it is known for a fact that women will seek abortion no matter what, and the ‘back-alley’ ones will always be obtainable, and dangerous. I would not want a pregnant daughter to seek illegal help to abort an unwanted pregnancy, no matter what the cause.
Women are autonomous, not chattel.™
It's amazing. You keep saying I should keep out of other peoples Business. How have I ever been in their business? According to you I am not allowed to express my opinion? Again, you seem to be the one wants to be in charge of other people's opinions. You love the idea that a young girl who is emotionally immature, to have the power to give the thumbs up or thumbs down on a living soul. I think abortions are killings and are disgusting and easily avoidable. You seem to love the blood and gore and death. Do you also love death and killing on the battle field? Are you pro-war? Are you pro death-penalty? Do you disagree with laws against murder? Don't you see the gross inconsistencies with your views? You people make no sense.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#111470 Dec 8, 2012
Urb, except for personal prejudice do you have any evidence that abortion is murder?

“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#111471 Dec 8, 2012
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
Bat Foy new friend
I heard it on television, and now looked it up, Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood was a racist, and started the Negro Project....Clinics were set up close to African Americans for abortions....She believed in eugenics(sterilizing "unfit").
She is revered as a saint by Planned Parenthood advocates, and pro-abortionists....

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Margaret_Sanger

Right wingers exaggerate their case.
Psychology

Jacksonville, FL

#111472 Dec 8, 2012
Right, that's why so many people play classical music, for their babies in the womb, as those people are claimed to be the brightest by so many.

Some of us actually have a brain and know how to use it.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#111473 Dec 8, 2012
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
Bat Foy new friend
I heard it on television, and now looked it up, Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood was a racist, and started the Negro Project....Clinics were set up close to African Americans for abortions....She believed in eugenics(sterilizing "unfit").
She is revered as a saint by Planned Parenthood advocates, and pro-abortionists....
I hope you're just trying to be sarcastic, because this is nothing but pure conspiracy nut hogwash. Planned Parenthood's services are, and have always been, 99% non-abortion related.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#111474 Dec 8, 2012
Psychology wrote:
Right, that's why so many people play classical music, for their babies in the womb, as those people are claimed to be the brightest by so many.
Some of us actually have a brain and know how to use it.
Not until after a couple months, in your case, I think the stem cells misread the DNA and turned into another intestinal tract.

“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#111475 Dec 8, 2012
Psychology wrote:
Right, that's why so many people play classical music, for their babies in the womb, as those people are claimed to be the brightest by so many.
Some of us actually have a brain and know how to use it.

This coming from the guy who gave us the refuted notion of spin gravity.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#111476 Dec 8, 2012
Dogen wrote:
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This coming from the guy who gave us the refuted notion of spin gravity.
Wait, he was serious about that? Now I'm laughing too hard.
Psychology

Jacksonville, FL

#111477 Dec 8, 2012
Yup and I'm the guy with a proveable theory for gravity.

Thanks for giving reason to post again.

Look to the space junk that NASA wants to possibly incinerate in space. It must be in a high orbit not to fall back to earth. That suggests that gravity is  keeping it there, unlike space junk that is in lower orbits. There are two forces in gravity, one is attraction and one is repulsion. I will explain. The planets must sit in the suns high orbits, considering their mass, keeping them from falling into the sun, just as the space junk does not fall back to earth from its high orbit around the earth. 

The same applies to all planets orbiting suns , with respect to their mass  as the rocky worlds  settled into their orbits, while the much lighter planets settled further out, because they don't need as much gravity to hold their places. The suns repulsion gets stronger the closer a planet gets to it. That's why the planets with more mass get closer to the sun.

Looking at mercury, for it's size and mass, it fits my hypothesis.

Venus fits, it is 10% smaller than earth.

Earth fits correctly.

Mars is one sixth the mass. While its diameter is half of earths., so that fits. 

Jupiter's diameter is over ten times greater than the Earth's, but
It has over 300 times the mass. 

The question becomes, does circumference trump mass in my gravities repulsion theory. Looking at the gas giants, I'd say yes, but I have more to consider.

Saturn's diameter is about nine times greater than the Earth's
It has 95 times the mass, which means it falls in place behind Jupiter, correctly.

Uranus' diameter is four times that of the Earth's and
It has 15 times the mass.
That falls in line with my theory

Neptune's diameter is slightly less than four times that of the Earth's
It has 17 times the mass.

Pluto's diameter less than 20 percent that of the Earth's (smaller than the Earth's Moon) 
It has less than one percent the mass.
That falls in line with my hypothesis.

Ok, I'm good with my gravitational theory now.

Hypothesis by ,--

Jim Ryan 

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