Should evolution be taught in high school?

[appleboy]

Urban Cowboy wrote:

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They weren't selling Jews as slaves Chimney, they were applying Darwin's principles and sterilizing and exterminating them. Stop being an idiot.

So, you are arguing that, if not for Darwin, cheetahs would be much nicer to antelopes?

[Urban Cowboy]

KittenKoder wrote:

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For one thing, it's difficult to tell if you are joking so I'll just say "okay, cool." But the more important thing is that I highly doubt you work there, very unlikely, as you don't even know that PCB design is dependent on evolutionary algorithms devised based on the ToE, which any tech would know. Without these algorithms phones would still be able to text, but that's all.

Please, continue...

[Urban Cowboy]

MikeF wrote:

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You're the idiot, bub. Darwin explained evolution and NATURAL selection. The Nazis used artificial selection. Big difference.

You are right. Good job Mike!

[MikeF]

Urban Cowboy wrote:

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Glad you finally agree. Thanks!

What? I haven't agreed with you, numbnutz. Are you developing a brain tumor or something? I told you that you were wrong several times. Including this time.

MikeF wrote:

Wrong. They espoused selective breeding (and genocide). Much, much older than Darwin's theory.

I know your last name is not Ryan but...

[MikeF]

Urban Cowboy wrote:

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You are right. Good job Mike!

Urban Cowboy wrote:

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They weren't selling Jews as slaves Chimney, they were applying Darwin's principles and sterilizing and exterminating them. Stop being an idiot.

You're losing it, John Boy. You can't even remember which side of the argument you're on.

[Urban Cowboy]

MikeF wrote:

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You're losing it, John Boy. You can't even remember which side of the argument you're on.

Mike, I am agreeing with you. And showing you complements. There is nothing else to it.

[Urban Cowboy]

A moment of silence for American Jazz Great, Dave Brubeck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

[Kong_]

Urban Cowboy wrote:

A moment of silence for American Jazz Great, Dave Brubeck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

On this, I can with no reservations agree with you.

[defender]

LowellGuy wrote:

<quoted text>Oh, so there IS a hard border to evolution. Great. Just demonstrate this, and claim your Nobel Prize.

It is the evolutionist that claims spices change into completely different creatures... Without any proof mind you... So I get the Nobel Prize for that statement?... Cool...

[MikeF]

Urban Cowboy wrote:

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Mike, I am agreeing with you. And showing you complements. There is nothing else to it.

Then why did you appear to be taking the opposite position?

[MikeF]

Urban Cowboy wrote:

A moment of silence for American Jazz Great, Dave Brubeck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Kong_ wrote:

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On this, I can with no reservations agree with you.

Without question. Sad day.

[MikeF]

Urban Cowboy wrote:

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Mike, I am agreeing with you. And showing you complements. There is nothing else to it.

And if I misunderstood you, I apologize.

[Urban Cowboy]

MikeF wrote:

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And if I misunderstood you, I apologize.

No problem. When you said that it was artificial selection, that's what clicked, and I changed my mind.

[defender]

appleboy wrote:

<quoted text>(1) The "missing link" is an idea that has been out of date for a very long time. Only creationists hang on to the term. Why do you do this?

(2) There's no reason to propose a different ancestory for the Miacidae. If modern cats and dogs had some characteristics associated with slugs or ancient crawfish, then it would be reasonable to make that connection, but of course that connection cannot be made. You have to follow the evidence.

The ToE recognizes that successful adaptations tend to be conserved and are passed on to future generations, and are modified in one form or another across species and genre. So that is why we can see common ancestry from fish to humans in parts of the structure.(vertabrate, and bones of the arm--one bone in the upper arm, followed by two bones, followed by five bones.)

In previous branches we can identify what DID happen, but in future branches you might have a point in saying that "anything goes" because there's no way to determine what modifications will follow, other than that those modifications will be built upon previous modifications.

1) Well if the missing link idea as you put it is so out dated then why was Ida billed as the greatest thing since sliced bread? Oh this was it!!! Finally the missing link that shut us all up!!!... Lol...

2) Yes let's follow the evidence!! Not wild speculation from desperate lefties looking for funding...

3) Why do you stereotype all those who disagree with Darwinism in one group?... Plenty of atheist, Christian and others do not share in your view point...

[defender]

Dogen wrote:

<quoted text>You are very misinformed. IDA was not a cat. It was the forerunner of modern mammals. The lineage of major taxonomic groups is well known and based on modern genetics as much or more than the fossil record. The fact that genetics and the fossil record agree completely should be a concern to you and other reality deniers.

Spin doctor all you wish... The whole Ida farce was an huge embarrassment... But hey whatever you say...

[KittenKoder]

defender wrote:

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1) Well if the missing link idea as you put it is so out dated then why was Ida billed as the greatest thing since sliced bread? Oh this was it!!! Finally the missing link that shut us all up!!!... Lol...
2) Yes let's follow the evidence!! Not wild speculation from desperate lefties looking for funding...
3) Why do you stereotype all those who disagree with Darwinism in one group?... Plenty of atheist, Christian and others do not share in your view point...

Where is the evidence for your god?

You cannot believe in creationism unless you also have a god delusion, and evolution is a phenomenon, the evidence is what pointed to the theory of evolution, the theory didn't come before the phenomenon, that is impossible as a theory is a description of a phenomenon. Evolution happens, we witnessed it in viruses and bacteria long before we even knew what to call it.

[Mugwump]

defender wrote:

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2) Yes let's follow the evidence!! Not wild speculation from desperate lefties looking for funding...
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3) Why do you stereotype all those who disagree with Darwinism in one group?......

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[Dogen]

defender wrote:

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1) Well if the missing link idea as you put it is so out dated then why was Ida billed as the greatest thing since sliced bread? Oh this was it!!! Finally the missing link that shut us all up!!!... Lol...
2) Yes let's follow the evidence!! Not wild speculation from desperate lefties looking for funding...
3) Why do you stereotype all those who disagree with Darwinism in one group?... Plenty of atheist, Christian and others do not share in your view point...

Science is not a point of view. It is driven only by the data and adherence to the scientific method. Are mistakes possible? Yes, but they are usually very quickly corrected.

[Dogen]

defender wrote:

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Spin doctor all you wish... The whole Ida farce was an huge embarrassment... But hey whatever you say...

You can make up anything you like. IDA was a small but important breakthrough.


Dogen wrote:
<quoted text>You are very misinformed. IDA was not a cat. It was the forerunner of modern mammals. The lineage of major taxonomic groups is well known and based on modern genetics as much or more than the fossil record. The fact that genetics and the fossil record agree completely should be a concern to you and other reality deniers.

[Subduction Zone]

Urban Cowboy wrote:

A moment of silence for American Jazz Great, Dave Brubeck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

I agree with everyone else. A sad day, a fantastic tune. I will have to play a few of his better songs today, but you can't beat this one.

Urb you finally knocked one out of the park.