Should evolution be taught in high sc...

Should evolution be taught in high school?

There are 179697 comments on the www.scientificblogging.com story from Feb 24, 2008, titled Should evolution be taught in high school?. In it, www.scientificblogging.com reports that:

Microbiologist Carl Woese is well known as an iconoclast. At 79 years of age, Woese is still shaking things up. Most recently, he stated in an interview with Wired that...

"My feeling is that evolution shouldn't be taught at the lower grades. You don't teach quantum mechanics in the grade schools. One has to be quite educated to work with these concepts; what they pass on as evolution in high schools is nothing but repetitious tripe that teachers don't understand."

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“I am Sisyphus”

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#78688 Nov 17, 2011
the carpet whisperer wrote:
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You would be wrong. However if you can show the science makes that same claim that you do, at least you will have a little to go on.
So does science make that claim or are you making that claim?

Everything I said, except for speculation about diet, is historically and biologically factual.

“I am Sisyphus”

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#78689 Nov 17, 2011
the carpet whisperer wrote:
Okay joe I have figured out why. So far no 1 here has been able to present any evidence to support their claims in reference to man's height. The proof is on quite a lot of things.

You really want to tick one of your two friends off, don't you.

Sic 'em, Joe!

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#78691 Nov 17, 2011
the carpet whisperer wrote:
By the way the truth is out here that the jews do a lot of bribery to get what the have. However there are a lot of americans that have learned to do what the jews taught them to do. That's why the american congress has learned to take bribes and to give bribes to the heads of other nations.

Why do the jews control 96 percent of the world's media? Why are the jews allowed to monopolize the media throughout the entire world and epecially the united states? In the united states no 1 is supposed to have a monopoly. Jews had to bribe all in congress to maintain their monopoly in the media.

However if you don't like the truth well, too bad.
Maybe in this case the truth really isn't compelling.(shrugs)

“I am Sisyphus”

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#78692 Nov 17, 2011
the carpet whisperer wrote:
By the way the truth is out here that the jews do a lot of bribery to get what the have. However there are a lot of americans that have learned to do what the jews taught them to do. That's why the american congress has learned to take bribes and to give bribes to the heads of other nations.
Why do the jews control 96 percent of the world's media? Why are the jews allowed to monopolize the media throughout the entire world and epecially the united states? In the united states no 1 is supposed to have a monopoly. Jews had to bribe all in congress to maintain their monopoly in the media.
However if you don't like the truth well, too bad.

Royal Flush in shistcan racism.

We expect less from a creationist retard, and you always deliver!

“Evil Atheist :-)”

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#78693 Nov 17, 2011
Urban Cowboy wrote:
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Because contamination is a very rare exception, not the rule. If you are right, then the entire process fails as totally unreliable under your scenario.(Yet you results favoring your theory!) The samples have been repeatedly measured and re-measured exchanging samples from different sources and a variety of anonymous labs and have exhausted every possible excuse imaginable and still without exception still find measurable amounts of C14 in supposed ancient samples. This obviously points to young earth. And because we were not there to record the initial conditions or the decay rate over the years, it's still just an upper age limit estimate.
Contamination of the equipment (not the diamonds) is inevitable considering there's a thousand times more C14 in the air than in the sample. The problem is to remove it before the sample is tested. Inevitable some will be left and that's what's detected, not C14 in the diamond.

Any contamination of C14 will make the sample appear younger than it is. So a sample recorded as 60,000 years old can only be that age or older, not younger.

“Be introduced to a new theory”

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#78694 Nov 17, 2011
Drew Smith wrote:
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What is the scientific evidence that supports the existence of multiple "human races" in history?
Hi Drew,

What are you talking about?

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#78695 Nov 17, 2011
Chimney wrote:
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No, all I am pointing out is that east asians with their measurably superior average IQ will soon dominate whiteys, possibly with the exception of Jews who have an even higher average IQ.
Whiteys in general fall to the third or forth rung. Not sure if they are really human, below the Jews and the East Asians that is. Maybe they are good for waitressing or digging ditches.
Got a problem with that?
I'm trying to tell you about reading a new theory of evolution. Think with me that certain religions symbolize and stand for certain subraces. They are in this order: 1st Egyptian, 2nd Hindu (India), 3rd Mythology (Greece), 4th Buddhism (Asia), 5th Christianity (Europe), 6th ???????, 7th Africa (Jewish of the 5th Root Race and Muslim the early manifestation of a 6th Root Race, 7th subrace) I see a need in S. America, N. America, and Australia. Do you?

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#78696 Nov 17, 2011
appleboy wrote:
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What you are presenting is a personal philosophy tested against your own insight, not a theory that must be tested against evidence.
Personal philosophy is what makes all of us a bit different. In my own personal philosophy, I find that, over the years, some of the supervisors I worked for were jerks who should have been fired, and some were really great. But I wouldn't argue those points in a Science/Technology forum.
Maybe you would have better luck in a Religion/Philosophy forum?
You have to give me some credit for intelligence. Many people are reading theosophy. If you haven't read THE SECRET DOCTRINE, H.P. Blavatsky tries to present evidence in the way of fragments from ancient books and writings that contain bits and pieces of the puzzle she puts together for us. Many people don't know of the books existence.

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#78697 Nov 17, 2011
Oh, and by the way, if you're mystified as to why the 7th subrace of the 6th race would come prior to the others, it is due to the special condition that is described for the 7th and final subrace. It is born at the beginning in a special condition called a "family race." The Family Race represents the goal that the other subraces are working towards and to have the example for which they are working VISIBLE AND TANGIBLE is an aid to achieving the goals of the race. So the "goal" is embodied in the 7th race which continues in a small way down through all of the subraces until at the end of the race, it blossoms forth.

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#78698 Nov 17, 2011
What is the scientific evidence that supports the existence of multiple "human races" in history?
brenda6 wrote:
What are you talking about?
Didn't you make some statements about "human races"? I'm asking you what scientific evidence supports those statements.

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#78699 Nov 17, 2011
brenda6 wrote:
I'm trying to tell you about reading a new theory of evolution.
Does this theory pertain to anything other than humans?
brenda6 wrote:
Think with me that certain religions symbolize and stand for certain subraces.
What is the definition of "subrace"?

“Is that all you've got?”

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#78700 Nov 17, 2011
Chimney wrote:
<quoted text>
No, all I am pointing out is that east asians with their measurably superior average IQ will soon dominate whiteys, possibly with the exception of Jews who have an even higher average IQ.
Whiteys in general fall to the third or forth rung. Not sure if they are really human, below the Jews and the East Asians that is. Maybe they are good for waitressing or digging ditches.
Got a problem with that?
WTF?

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#78701 Nov 17, 2011
brenda6 wrote:
Oh, and by the way, if you're mystified as to why the 7th subrace of the 6th race would come prior to the others, it is due to the special condition that is described for the 7th and final subrace. It is born at the beginning in a special condition called a "family race." The Family Race represents the goal that the other subraces are working towards and to have the example for which they are working VISIBLE AND TANGIBLE is an aid to achieving the goals of the race. So the "goal" is embodied in the 7th race which continues in a small way down through all of the subraces until at the end of the race, it blossoms forth.
I should've never stopped smoking weed.

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#78702 Nov 17, 2011
Drew Smith wrote:
What is the scientific evidence that supports the existence of multiple "human races" in history?
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Didn't you make some statements about "human races"? I'm asking you what scientific evidence supports those statements.
Anthropology

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#78703 Nov 17, 2011
Drew Smith wrote:
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Does this theory pertain to anything other than humans?
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What is the definition of "subrace"?
Yes, it does pertain to all evolving kingdoms. They cycle through the 7 globes in a globe chain one at a time so that by the time we ascend off earth, the globe ahead of this one will have evolving animals ready for their ascent (approximately).

Subraces are 7 and there are sub sub races and other categories. The subrace is equated to a religion and to a continent.
Mugwump

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#78704 Nov 17, 2011
joe wrote:
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No not at all ... Here's the thing.. If you want people to believe in ToE then fine... But we are going to ask the simple question of how this can be... Well? The Big Bang? If one brings in to question the bang or Abiogenesis then we get " well that has nothing to do with ToE" .... If we question ToE.. Then we get "well abiogenesis says or the big bang says"... They move the goal post all the time... Prove your claims and we will shut up...
Hi Joe thanks for a response - with respect however it has been stated on this forum many times that ToE has nothing to do with BB or Abiogenesis - but many of those arguing against evolution cite the lack of a definitive theory on the latter as a barrier to the evidence for the former.

All I am trying to do is point out that if BB or abiogenesis is used as an argument against evolution - it can be used against all science as they are the starting point for physics ,chemistry and biology.

I am labouring this issue somewhat as it is evident that the 'anti ToE' contingent often quote if but never address the points raised that the 3 areas are not dependent . As I say , challenging one strawman at a time

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#78705 Nov 17, 2011
Didn't you make some statements about "human races"? I'm asking you what scientific evidence supports those statements.
brenda6 wrote:
Anthropology
Anthropology is an academic discipline, not a piece of scientific evidence. Could you identify a specific set of scientific facts that support the statements you had made?

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#78706 Nov 17, 2011
Does this theory pertain to anything other than humans?
brenda6 wrote:
Yes, it does pertain to all evolving kingdoms. They cycle through the 7 globes
What is the definition of a "globe"?

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What is the definition of "subrace"?
brenda6 wrote:
Subraces are 7 and there are sub sub races and other categories. The subrace is equated to a religion and to a continent.
Religions and continents are two very different things. So how does "subrace" equate to both of those?

I still don't see a *definition* of "subrace". Could you *define* the word for us?

“Church of Latter Day Heathens”

Since: Feb 09

Austin, Tx

#78707 Nov 17, 2011
Chimney wrote:
<quoted text>
No, all I am pointing out is that east asians with their measurably superior average IQ will soon dominate whiteys, possibly with the exception of Jews who have an even higher average IQ.
Whiteys in general fall to the third or forth rung. Not sure if they are really human, below the Jews and the East Asians that is. Maybe they are good for waitressing or digging ditches.
Got a problem with that?
Depends on if I have to wait or dig ditches. Other than that I'm cool with it.
LowellGuy

United States

#78708 Nov 17, 2011
the carpet whisperer wrote:
By the way the truth is out here that the jews do a lot of bribery to get what the have. However there are a lot of americans that have learned to do what the jews taught them to do. That's why the american congress has learned to take bribes and to give bribes to the heads of other nations.
Why do the jews control 96 percent of the world's media? Why are the jews allowed to monopolize the media throughout the entire world and epecially the united states? In the united states no 1 is supposed to have a monopoly. Jews had to bribe all in congress to maintain their monopoly in the media.
However if you don't like the truth well, too bad.
You misspelled "filthy Jew bastards."

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