The hope of evolutionists

Feb 22, 2013 Full story: Pravda 99

The recent media splash about finding the hypothetical common ancestor of all mammals is based upon nothing more than the evolutionary argument that DNA and biological similarities between species is evidence for common ancestry.

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“Leave That Thing Alone!”

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#1 Feb 22, 2013
All you need to know about the content of the article is the name of the author:

Babu G. Ranganathan

don't waste your time... unless you're a creationist eager to see another nut-bag spout the same nonsense you use

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#2 Feb 22, 2013
TerryL wrote:
All you need to know about the content of the article is the name of the author:
Babu G. Ranganathan
don't waste your time... unless you're a creationist eager to see another nut-bag spout the same nonsense you use
But I bet the Fundies & Right-wingers will still get a chubby reading it. And the resume of Babu G. Ranganathan (per the article)?

"The author, Babu G. Ranganathan, has his bachelor's degree with concentrations in theology and biology and has been recognized for his writings on religion and science in the 24th edition of Marquis "Who's Who in The East.

"The Sensuousous Curmudgeon" has a good (but dated) piece on Babu:

http://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#3 Feb 22, 2013
Well, Curmudgeon didn't link me to Babu's article, but you can search for it on the linked page above.

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

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#4 Feb 22, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
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But I bet the Fundies & Right-wingers will still get a chubby reading it. And the resume of Babu G. Ranganathan (per the article)?
"The author, Babu G. Ranganathan, has his bachelor's degree with concentrations in theology and biology and has been recognized for his writings on religion and science in the 24th edition of Marquis "Who's Who in The East.
"The Sensuousous Curmudgeon" has a good (but dated) piece on Babu:
http://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/
The fundies do tend to latch onto anything they see as supporting their choice to remain ignorant. It never matters if there is any factual basis to the article or not... as long as it agrees with what they've told told to believe.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

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#5 Feb 22, 2013
Perhaps it's my western, white-bread upbringing, but I cannot get myself to take seriously anyone whose name is "Babu".

That reminds me of:

http://www.google.com/imgres...
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#6 Feb 23, 2013
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The recent media splash (originally published in The New York Times) about finding the hypothetical common ancestor of all mammals is based upon nothing more than the evolutionary argument (assumption) that DNA and biological similarities between species is evidence for common ancestry.

That summary of the evolutionary argument sounds a little incomplete. Don't evolutionists also require a background choir to sing the praises of nested hierarchies?
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#7 Feb 23, 2013
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However, what if the DNA and biological similarities between species are because of a common Designer who designed similar functions for similar purposes in various species? Genetic information, like other forms of information, cannot arise by chance, so it is more logical to believe that similarities in DNA between species are due to intelligent design.

There is an obvious error in paragraph 2. Clearly, there is a nonzero probability that a monkey typing randomly on a keyboard will compose a beautiful essay without a single spelling mistake or grammatical error on the very first try.

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#8 Feb 23, 2013
Shubee wrote:
Paragraph 2:
However, what if the DNA and biological similarities between species are because of a common Designer who designed similar functions for similar purposes in various species? Genetic information, like other forms of information, cannot arise by chance, so it is more logical to believe that similarities in DNA between species are due to intelligent design.
There is an obvious error in paragraph 2. Clearly, there is a nonzero probability that a monkey typing randomly on a keyboard will compose a beautiful essay without a single spelling mistake or grammatical error on the very first try.
Good, since the monkey's could not have typed their essay without a mistake then it seems that you agree your monkey of a god could not have created life. Evolution does not write beautiful essays that are perfect on the first try, far from it.

And no, there is no reason to believe that your god created life even without your monkey claim which blows your argument out of the water. All evidence out there supports the theory of evolution. No scientific evidence supports creationism.
MIDutch

Waterford, MI

#9 Feb 23, 2013
Shubee wrote:
Paragraph 1:
The recent media splash (originally published in The New York Times) about finding the hypothetical common ancestor of all mammals is based upon nothing more than the evolutionary argument (assumption) that DNA and biological similarities between species is evidence for common ancestry.
That summary of the evolutionary argument sounds a little incomplete. Don't evolutionists also require a background choir to sing the praises of nested hierarchies?
What's the matter Eugene? Still pissed that NO ONE pays your delusional ideas any mind?

Angry that your "theories" aren't even making the news in your hometown paper, let alone the international media?

Frustrated that working mathematicians and physicists think you're an idiot?
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#10 Feb 24, 2013
MIDutch wrote:
What's the matter Eugene? Still pissed that NO ONE pays your delusional ideas any mind?
Serious minds do take my ideas seriously. And I'm very content that my own particular contributions to revolutionary thought belong with and unify the work of other highly esteemed revolutionaries. http://everythingimportant.org/
MIDutch wrote:
Angry that your "theories" aren't even making the news in your hometown paper, let alone the international media?
Just give it time. Prophecy must be fulfilled. http://everythingimportant.org/
MIDutch wrote:
Frustrated that working mathematicians and physicists think you're an idiot?
I'm a working mathematics professor and I tend to think that I'm very clever. Do you even know the name of a mathematician or physicist that even knows his way around my area of expertise?
MIDutch

Waterford, MI

#11 Feb 24, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>Do you even know the name of a mathematician or physicist that even knows his way around my area of expertise?
"Your area of expertise"?

You mean teaching middle school math to homeschoolers? That "area of expertise"?
MIDutch

Waterford, MI

#12 Feb 24, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>I'm a working mathematics professor
Oh, please. No one believes this. You've been LYING for as long as you've been posting to the internet. Even the members of the SDA church you got kicked out of know this. You used to lie that you were a "working scientist" as well. This is probably just one of your delusional lies that you tell yourself to prop up your megalomania.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#13 Feb 24, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>I'm a working mathematics professor and I tend to think that I'm very clever. Do you even know the name of a mathematician or physicist that even knows his way around my area of expertise?
Shubee wrote:
I have never claimed to be an expert in biology. Frankly, I can barely remember anything about the one course I took in biology.
Ahem.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#14 Feb 24, 2013
Shubee wrote:
Paragraph 1:
The recent media splash (originally published in The New York Times) about finding the hypothetical common ancestor of all mammals is based upon nothing more than the evolutionary argument (assumption) that DNA and biological similarities between species is evidence for common ancestry.
Which is not actually an assumption, but based on testable evidence.
Shubee wrote:
That summary of the evolutionary argument sounds a little incomplete. Don't evolutionists also require a background choir to sing the praises of nested hierarchies?
No. DNA alone is enough. Nested hierarchies are a bonus.
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#15 Feb 24, 2013
The Dude wrote:
No. DNA alone is enough. Nested hierarchies are a bonus.
How does the chorus go? Let's hear what you sing about nested hierarchies with exalted praise.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#16 Feb 24, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>How does the chorus go? Let's hear what you sing about nested hierarchies with exalted praise.
I let fundies do the singing:
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>I have never claimed to be an expert in biology. Frankly, I can barely remember anything about the one course I took in biology.
And it's bad singing.

“I Am No One Else”

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#17 Feb 24, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text> Serious minds do take my ideas seriously. And I'm very content that my own particular contributions to revolutionary thought belong with and unify the work of other highly esteemed revolutionaries. http://everythingimportant.org/
<quoted text> Just give it time. Prophecy must be fulfilled. http://everythingimportant.org/
<quoted text>I'm a working mathematics professor and I tend to think that I'm very clever. Do you even know the name of a mathematician or physicist that even knows his way around my area of expertise?
Yes, we know you have no clue about scientific endeavors.

“Maccullochella macquariensis”

Since: May 08

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#18 Feb 25, 2013
Shubee wrote:
Serious minds do take my ideas seriously.
Oh really? Care to name some? <smirk>
And I'm very content that my own particular contributions to revolutionary thought belong with and unify the work of other highly esteemed revolutionaries. <spam link omitted>
Yes Shoob, no doubt about it you're a legend in your own lunch box.
Just give it time. Prophecy must be fulfilled. <spam link omitted again>
There's not enough time in the universe for your particular stupidity to come true.
I'm a working mathematics professor...
ROFLMAO
and I tend to think that I'm very clever.
No kidding, Sherlock. We are well aware that you think you're very clever. Problem for you mate, is no one else shares your opinion.
Do you even know the name of a mathematician or physicist that even knows his way around my area of expertise?
No, and neither do you. Your area of expertise is clearly dumb-arse stupidity. I doubt anyone can find a genuine mathematician of physicist who could ever come close to you in your area of expertise.
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#19 Feb 25, 2013
Bluenose wrote:
There's not enough time in the universe for your particular stupidity to come true.
But a mere 13.77 billion years is enough time for Darwinian stupidity to come true?

“Pissing people off since 1949”

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#20 Feb 25, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text> Serious minds do take my ideas seriously. And I'm very content that my own particular contributions to revolutionary thought belong with and unify the work of other highly esteemed revolutionaries. http://everythingimportant.org/
<quoted text> Just give it time. Prophecy must be fulfilled. http://everythingimportant.org/
Serious minds have rejected your papers and you remain unpublished.
Shubee wrote:
I'm a working mathematics professor...
Whose name, curiously, doesn't appear on any facility list. Anywhere.
Shubee wrote:
...and I tend to think that I'm very clever.
And has an overblown sense of his own self-importance.
Shubee wrote:
Do you even know the name of a mathematician or physicist that even knows his way around my area of expertise?
Rube Goldberg?

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