Atheism and homosexuality

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Creationist scientists and creationist assert that the theory of evolution cannot account for the origin of gender and sexual reproduction.http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/136http://www.answersingenesis.org/pbs_nova/0928ep5.asp [[Creation Ministries International]] states: "Homosexual acts go against [[God]]'s original [[Intelligent design ... (more)

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I've seem my neighbour's male dogs mounting each other. And that's just one animal...
It's only natural.:)
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I've seem my neighbour's male dogs mounting each other. And that's just one animal...
Is your pen!s as big as NoHo's?

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Is your pen!s as big as NoHo's?
Rosa, this guy is a sorry little thing who has been following me around for years, literally. How he got it in his head that if I were a man I'd consider, "You're really well hung!" to be an insult, I can only guess. He switches names and proxy servers sometimes several times in an hour, but I don't know why he bothers. He always says the same thing.

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Rosa, this guy is a sorry little thing who has been following me around for years, literally. How he got it in his head that if I were a man I'd consider, "You're really well hung!" to be an insult, I can only guess. He switches names and proxy servers sometimes several times in an hour, but I don't know why he bothers. He always says the same thing.
He sounds like a real nut...probably with a few size issues of his own.
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For those just joining us; Atheists are homosexual.

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Jumper The Wise wrote:
For those just joining us; Atheists are homosexual.
I'm a homosexual atheist.

Do you have a point to make or were you just trying to tell us about you?

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Rosa_Winkel wrote:
Ahhh, poor bigots.*cue the violins*
Those Christians chose not to attend or support a same sex wedding rite, then they were sued. Where's the tolerance for their religious and artistic freedom?

Labeling opponents of same sex marriage,'bigots'; that's all they've got. Same sex marriage is so harmful, they can't rationally discuss consequences. When boys are allowed to identify as girls and participate in girls sports or use girls facilities, our daughters are called bigots for voicing privacy concerns. This name calling is a bad habit.

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Rose_NoHo wrote:
...You insult gay people every time you argue against gay marriage.
Arguing to defend one man and one woman marriage isn't a personal insult. The left is using you for political gain, we care about your right to privacy, freedom from big government and freedom of association. The only insult to gay people is Rose's argument.

You can do better than name calling. Keeping marriage male/female is unfair to gay people but the greater societal good outweighs individual sexual predilection. That many choose to organize for political action is great but that includes civil discourse, not defamation.

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Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Those Christians chose not to attend or support a same sex wedding rite, then they were sued. Where's the tolerance for their religious and artistic freedom?
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They were sued because they refused public accommodation to the public - not a nice thing to do, and, of course, as business owners, not often legal.

They would have had the same problem if they refused to do business with a black couple because of race, or a Jewish couple because of their religion.

Is you argument REALLY that gay folks should not be allowed to marry, because some business owners might possibly want to discriminate?

That's just NUTS. When has THAT ever been a good idea?

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Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Arguing to defend one man and one woman marriage isn't a personal insult...
Of course it is.

You are telling gay youth that they are not as good as straight folks, and to keep to their place. You are arguing that gay people are not worthy of being treated equally under the law.

You are arguing that our families are not as important, or children not as valuable, and our unions are second rate. I really don't see how that can be anything other than a personal insult.

Just own it, and stop trying to make yourself feel better about it.

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They were sued because they refused public accommodation to the public - not a nice thing to do, and, of course, as business owners, not often legal.
They refused to attend and support same sex wedding rites; the law infringes on their religious freedom. I believe all people, even business owners have the right to decide which religious services to attend and serve, or not attend as they see right. They refused to perform an act they see as profane; suing them isn't tolerance.

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They would have had the same problem if they refused to do business with a black couple because of race, or a Jewish couple because of their religion.
Nonsense because all those business owners have served and will again serve homosexuals. The issue isn't orientation, the issue is a ritual to perform same sex marriage; they chose not to participate. Then the state tried to compel their serving for same sex marriage. That's so wrong.

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Is you argument REALLY that gay folks should not be allowed to marry, because some business owners might possibly want to discriminate?
I argue because they sue some business owners is a good reason to keep marriage one man and one woman. This is only the beginning of the erosion on liberty; they sue our states for same sex dependent entitlement benefits too.

Same sex marriage is wasteful government spending, intrusive new regulations and higher taxes all rolled up into one issue.

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That's just NUTS. When has THAT ever been a good idea?
Same sex marriage is a VERY bad idea.

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Of course [valuing male/female marriage] is [insulting gay people]. You are telling gay youth that they are not as good as straight folks,
Untrue, I'm telling gay youth marriage is one man and one woman, there is nothing wrong with homosexuals or homosexuality. One is an issue about a basic cultural institution, the other is the issue of individual worth; the two aren't connected.

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and to keep to their place.
Again, untrue. I embrace their freedom to associate as they please. If they choose to have children, then marry the other parent of your child so your kid can have a mother and father. Or adopt, I'm all about freedom and anti-big government intrusive new regulations. Especially around marriage.

Many homosexuals oppose courts placing their morality as new law over the consent of the governed. That just opposes our Nation's founding principles; self government not rule imposed by unelected and unaccountable elites.

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You are arguing that gay people are not worthy of being treated equally under the law.
I'm arguing the opposite, gay people are worthy of being treated exactly equally and unworthy of special new marriage equality rights to define marriage to suit sexual predilection. I'm for gay equal rights and I acknowledge the perfect sex integration of 1:1 marriage affirmative action diversity. I'm arguing segregation is not worthy of being treated equally under the law and sex segregated marriage is bad even when voluntary.

Gay people are as worthy of equality as anyone else; just women and men are unequal. Sexual differences mean the survival of the species, orientation differences not so much.

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You are arguing that our families are not as important, or children not as valuable, and our unions are second rate.
Please define these families of male/male and female/female union. As far as I understand biology, same sex unions are infertile. Every child of those unions is missing either a mother or father; what's up with that?

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I really don't see how that can be anything other than a personal insult.
It's a political issue, please put aside feelings and address the issue like an adult. It's consequences, consideration of the greater good over individual good and simple courtesy.

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Just own it, and stop trying to make yourself feel better about it.
Quest owns the gay insult issue; I'm arguing to keep marriage one man and one woman. Many gays defend marriage as one man and one woman; maybe to honor their mother and father.

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<quoted text>Untrue, I'm telling gay youth marriage is one man and one woman, there is nothing wrong with homosexuals or homosexuality. One is an issue about a basic cultural institution, the other is the issue of individual worth; the two aren't connected.
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<quoted text>Again, untrue. I embrace their freedom to associate as they please. If they choose to have children, then marry the other parent of your child so your kid can have a mother and father. Or adopt, I'm all about freedom and anti-big government intrusive new regulations. Especially around marriage.
Many homosexuals oppose courts placing their morality as new law over the consent of the governed. That just opposes our Nation's founding principles; self government not rule imposed by unelected and unaccountable elites.
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<quoted text>I'm arguing the opposite, gay people are worthy of being treated exactly equally and unworthy of special new marriage equality rights to define marriage to suit sexual predilection. I'm for gay equal rights and I acknowledge the perfect sex integration of 1:1 marriage affirmative action diversity. I'm arguing segregation is not worthy of being treated equally under the law and sex segregated marriage is bad even when voluntary.
Gay people are as worthy of equality as anyone else; just women and men are unequal. Sexual differences mean the survival of the species, orientation differences not so much.
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<quoted text>Please define these families of male/male and female/female union. As far as I understand biology, same sex unions are infertile. Every child of those unions is missing either a mother or father; what's up with that?
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<quoted text>It's a political issue, please put aside feelings and address the issue like an adult. It's consequences, consideration of the greater good over individual good and simple courtesy.
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<quoted text>Quest owns the gay insult issue; I'm arguing to keep marriage one man and one woman. Many gays defend marriage as one man and one woman; maybe to honor their mother and father.
We're still waiting for you to define "many" Lyin' Brian…and back it up.

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Brian_G wrote:
Arguing to defend one man and one woman marriage isn't a personal insult.
Brian, you are an idiot if you think that arguing that s fellow citizens is entitled to less than equal protection of the law is not a personal insult.
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The left is using you for political gain, we care about your right to privacy, freedom from big government and freedom of association.
Brian, you are an idiot. Equal protection of the law is federally mandated. Deal with it. A same sex couple being allowed equal protection of the law to marry in no way impacts you or your rights. Moron.
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The only insult to gay people is Rose's argument.
The only insult to gay people is your moronic argument that they be treated as second class citizens with less than equal protection of the law.
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You can do better than name calling. Keeping marriage male/female is unfair to gay people but the greater societal good outweighs individual sexual predilection. That many choose to organize for political action is great but that includes civil discourse, not defamation.
I have done' better than name calling. The reality remains that you are making stupid arguments, that clearly prove that you are a moron. As such, you shouldn't be surprised when people call you a moron. If you find that offensive, then stop making moronic arguments.

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Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Those Christians chose not to attend or support a same sex wedding rite, then they were sued. Where's the tolerance for their religious and artistic freedom?
Labeling opponents of same sex marriage,'bigots'; that's all they've got. Same sex marriage is so harmful, they can't rationally discuss consequences. When boys are allowed to identify as girls and participate in girls sports or use girls facilities, our daughters are called bigots for voicing privacy concerns. This name calling is a bad habit.
I bet they said all that about mixed black/white marriage, 50 years ago.

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For those just joining us; Atheists are homosexual.
Btw, Jumper is a blithering idiot.

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Brian, you are an idiot if you think that arguing that s fellow citizens is entitled to less than equal protection of the law is not a personal insult.
I argue gay people are entitled to exactly equal rights, no more and no less, to live under the laws with all the rest of us. Nobody may have same sex marriage, polygamy, underage marriage, forced marriage, incest marriage or any further derivation. Marriage is one man and one woman because that's the beauty of perfect affirmative action and integration. Men and women together create something greater than men and women alone or man/man or women/women.

That doesn't' say gays are less, nor do they have special rights to redefine marriage law for everybody.

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Brian, you are an idiot.
My arguments take a different tact, I focus on issues instead of characterizations. I don't name people to embarrass them but I do call attention to the truth, written on the screen in front of your nose.

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Equal protection of the law is federally mandated.
Not gender equality; gays may marry under the same laws as everyone else not redefine marriage as if men and women are not different in the eyes of law, precedent, convention, civilized standard, rule or convention. Equal before the law yet not equal to one another.

There have been ancient debates about racial discrimination, but no such discourses on same sex marriage, what's up with that? When Socrates kept arguing the logic of same sex marriage and Plato kept replying, "Shut up, bigot" were those dialogs edited from history or are that fantasy?

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lides wrote:
Deal with it. A same sex couple being allowed equal protection of the law to marry in no way impacts you or your rights.
Of course, Barronelle Stutzman disagrees, so did Obama and Biden in 2008, so di I. Same sex marriage changes the way government sees husband and wife, it makes gender blindness, invades privacy and imposes elite morality on the majority.

Same sex marriage impacts everyone big time. All taxpayers will see increased wasteful government spending on entitlements for a new class of same sex dependent beneficiaries. Now Obamacare uses your premiums to pay for a same sex partner's Viagra to treat infertility, then rents a surrogate. And we all pay!

Same sex marriage under Obamacare is a dirty joke.

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lides wrote:
Moron.[] The only insult to gay people is your moronic argument that they be treated as second class citizens with less than equal protection of the law.
I campaign for equal treatment not a new standard of sex segregation in marriage. Separatism means discrimination and disunity; I oppose dividing people into sex orientation voting blocks.

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I have done' better than name calling. The reality remains that you are making stupid arguments, that clearly prove that you are a moron.
I believe the comments from my opponents explain their own arguments. I speak for myself, any reader may judge my comments and lides' without my interjection.

The truth is out there, all you have to do is speak your mind.

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As such, you shouldn't be surprised when people call you a moron. If you find that offensive, then stop making moronic arguments.

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Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>I argue gay people are entitled to exactly equal rights, no more and no less, to live under the laws with all the rest of us.
That's right Brian!

And when Same-sex marriage is a fact everywhere, YOU will have the right to marry a man.

BTW, did you read where West Point recently hosted a same-sex marriage between 2 men? http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/201...
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River Tam wrote:
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I'm a homosexual atheist.
Do you have a point to make or were you just trying to tell us about you?
You are brave and honest.
If more Atheists 'came out' we would not be bickering so much about religion. I salute you!

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Jumper The Wise wrote:
<quoted text>You are brave and honest.
If more Atheists 'came out' we would not be bickering so much about religion. I salute you!
what's to bicker about regarding proven false religious cults and their members?

that their followers are fools or assholes? is that the big argument about such stone-age myths?

kind of the "Less filling!"..."Tastes great!" debate of our time, huh?

this would be the level of debate religious cult freaks would be able to understand...

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