New Orleans schools ban creationism and 'revisionist' history in rebuke of Texas

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The school board for Orleans Parish in Louisiana voted Tuesday night to ban the teaching of creationism as science and what they called a "revisionist" history curriculum promoted by the state of Texas.

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#103 Jan 6, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
We evolved from other life forms,
No, the human race has devolved. You certainly believe that you're a superior human being but indisputably you're a mutant.

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#104 Jan 6, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>Why am I debating this with you? Middle-school students have greater powers of discernment!
Not when you're done with them, they don't.

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#105 Jan 6, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>No, the human race has devolved. You certainly believe that you're a superior human being but indisputably you're a mutant.
Way to demonstrate you know nothing of evolution at all.
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#106 Jan 6, 2013
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Way to demonstrate you know nothing of evolution at all.
Come on! You're obviously a mutant and mutants aren't evolved.

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#107 Jan 6, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>Come on! You're obviously a mutant and mutants aren't evolved.
Mutation is evolution, every change, every difference, is an evolutionary step. Lest you are a clone of your parents, then you posses many mutations.
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#108 Jan 6, 2013
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Mutation is evolution, every change, every difference, is an evolutionary step.
Yes, it's an evolutionary step downwards. And being a super mutant, you have lost your ability to reason. I say again: mutants aren't evolved.

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#109 Jan 6, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, it's an evolutionary step downwards. And being a super mutant, you have lost your ability to reason. I say again: mutants aren't evolved.
So then you are saying you are not "evolved?"
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#110 Jan 6, 2013
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So then you are saying you are not "evolved?"
Sanford's genomic degeneration theorem is inescapable: "When subjected only to natural forces, the human genome must irrevocably degenerate over time."
http://everythingimportant.org/genome.pdf

So the older we get, the more devolved our DNA becomes.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/devolved
http://everythingimportant.org/devolution

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#111 Jan 6, 2013
Sanford was shown to be wrong long ago and you have been shown that many times over. Natural selection has no problem removing "degenerate" genes.

Just a helpful reminder to Shube who keeps forgetting all of his defeats. I suppose it is reasonable to forget some of them when you have been proven to be wrong so many times.
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#112 Jan 6, 2013
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Sanford was shown to be wrong long ago and you have been shown that many times over.
Tell that to the French.
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-12/0...

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#113 Jan 6, 2013
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<quoted text> Sanford's genomic degeneration theorem is inescapable: "When subjected only to natural forces, the human genome must irrevocably degenerate over time."
http://everythingimportant.org/genome.pdf
So the older we get, the more devolved our DNA becomes.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/devolved
http://everythingimportant.org/devolution
Oxidative stress on the DNA causes what we call aging, not "degeneration," different matters, one, oxidation, is based on reality. The other is your filed attempt at an ad hom. Yes, I am old, so what?

Oh, and Subduction already showed your error in using Sanford. Please, before you post anything about science, make sure you're caught up.
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#114 Jan 6, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
Natural selection has no problem removing "degenerate" genes.
Silly man. That's logically equivalent to saying that natural selection has no problem preventing evolution.
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#115 Jan 6, 2013
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Oxidative stress on the DNA causes what we call aging,
No. We're obviously programmed to age, which is an error in the DNA, but in the beginning the code represented maximal perfection.

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#116 Jan 6, 2013
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<quoted text>No. We're obviously programmed to age, which is an error in the DNA, but in the beginning the code represented maximal perfection.
Aging isn't an error in the DNA, it's a survival strategy.

If an organism didn't age, then population maximums would be reached quickly and there would be no room for new offspring.

As such, if a new threat (change in temp, lack of food, new predator, disease, etc) were to creep up, there would be no new variation capable of dealing with it.

So, things age and die, new things take their place. New genes creep up and get selected for or against.

Strategy

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#117 Jan 6, 2013
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Aging isn't an error in the DNA, it's a survival strategy.
If an organism didn't age, then population maximums would be reached quickly and there would be no room for new offspring.
As such, if a new threat (change in temp, lack of food, new predator, disease, etc) were to creep up, there would be no new variation capable of dealing with it.
So, things age and die, new things take their place. New genes creep up and get selected for or against.
Strategy
Not entirely accurate. While things must die or we run out of room and resources, the stress on the DNA is just an advent of the chemical reactions themselves. More of a beneficial side effect.

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#118 Jan 6, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>Tell that to the French.
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-12/0...
That article has nothing to do with you debunked Sanford claims, try again.

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#119 Jan 6, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>Silly man. That's logically equivalent to saying that natural selection has no problem preventing evolution.
No fool. Natural selection eliminates bad mutations and saves good mutations. Obviously you do not understand natural selection which might explain your belief in Sanford in the first place.

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#120 Jan 6, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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No fool. Natural selection eliminates bad mutations and saves good mutations. Obviously you do not understand natural selection which might explain your belief in Sanford in the first place.
I have one important question, how do you remember all of your socks?
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#121 Jan 6, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
Aging isn't an error in the DNA, it's a survival strategy.
Death is a survival strategy? I assert that you have a brain disorder caused by worshiping at the altar of Darwinism far too long.
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#122 Jan 6, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
Natural selection eliminates bad mutations and saves good mutations. Obviously you do not understand natural selection which might explain your belief in Sanford in the first place.
It's obvious that Dr. Sanford and I understand the extraordinarily stupefying subterfuge called natural selection.
everythingimportant.org/genome.pdf

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