Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 222036 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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#111057 Apr 11, 2014
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>Though not always. I would not do well in a fundamentalist church certainly. I have attended them and have no desire to support that thread of belief.
The fundies are good cooks and set a mean table though.

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#111058 Apr 11, 2014
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>Though not always. I would not do well in a fundamentalist church certainly. I have attended them and have no desire to support that thread of belief.
What is their Service like? You don't have to talk about it if you don't want to ...
Talking about Church can get me down and I never feel like it is shedding much light for me at all...as far as it's teachings...

The vast attendances though that churches receive must mean they are all looking for something or someone?
Mere support maybe potlucks and all included...

Survival menu as well ???

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#111059 Apr 11, 2014
Because I keep hearing them telling me that death IS...

An Occurrence of a past or life style or to come?

If all three apply are they addressing each other then for a benefit to better or to comfort to ease pain for the dying?

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#111060 Apr 11, 2014
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>The fundies are good cooks and set a mean table though.
I have to look that up too...

FUndamentalist Church...hhhh ")

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#111061 Apr 11, 2014
Mentalists....

The Church of Morals and it's, their Origin...another nice Title...
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#111062 Apr 11, 2014
Nick wrote:
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No im asking why you'd rather believe in being a useless pile of dna without purpose rather than a person created by a loving God who gave you a purpose
Our beliefs do not shape reality.

What purpose did God put us here for?

What is the meaning of life?

If you can answer that one, then great. Because that's been a tough one for philosophers for thousands of years, and they're still no closer to answering it.
The Dude

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#111063 Apr 11, 2014
Nick wrote:
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Im just saying that if theres evolution then the bibles a lie so you cant believe in both
Only if you take the Bible literally all the way through.

But then, you DON'T. Do you? Because you don't believe the Earth is flat.

I'm just saying that if the Earth is not flat then the Bible's a lie so you can't believe in both.

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#111064 Apr 11, 2014
They say the Evangelical Lutheran and Them are the same we don't believe in Baptisms...

We do confirm , after Scriptures have been discussed...There is a lecture time of reading the Bible...but that is all...

We receive a drop of water on our forehead as a blessing I guess that we will be watched over???...
The Dude

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#111065 Apr 11, 2014
Nick wrote:
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Ok but if evolution is real that goes against all of genesis and if genesis is wrong then it ties into other parts of the bible and then the bible would be wrong so you simply cant have both evolution and christianity
EXACTLY the same with flat Earth.

So like I said, either the Bible is allegory, parable and metaphor. Or it's plain wrong, period.

So why do you believe the Earth is ball shaped?
The Dude

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#111066 Apr 11, 2014
Nick wrote:
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Well i dont think that those people really are christians you cant believe in both one goes against everything in the bible
Since when do you get to decide who is and who isn't a Christian? Are you God?
The Dude

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#111067 Apr 11, 2014
MikeF wrote:
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What prevents anyone from accepting both a god and evolution?
The ALMIGHTY POWERFUL NICK! Ruler and Creator of the universe!

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#111068 Apr 11, 2014
The first important stream was Evangelicalism as it emerged in the revivals of the First Great Awakening and Second Great Awakening in America and the Methodism movement in England in the period 1730-1840. They in turn had been influenced by the Pietism movement in Germany. Church historian Randall Balmer explains that:
"Evangelicalism itself, I believe, is a quintessentially North American phenomenon, deriving as it did from the confluence of Pietism, Presbyterianism, and the vestiges of Puritanism. Evangelicalism picked up the peculiar characteristics from each strain – warmhearted spirituality from the Pietists (for instance), doctrinal precisionism from the Presbyterians, and individualistic introspection from the Puritans – even as the North American context itself has profoundly shaped the various manifestations of evangelicalism: fundamentalism, neo-evangelicalism, the holiness movement, Pentecostalism, the charismatic movement, and various forms of African-American and Hispanic evangelicalism.[12]
Dispensationalism[edit]

A second stream was Dispensationalism, a new interpretation of the Bible developed in the 1830s in England. Darby's ideas were disseminated by the notes and commentaries in the widely used Scofield Reference Bible, published in 1909. Dispensationalism was a millenarian theory that divided all of time into seven different stages, called "dispensations", which were seen as stages of God's revelation. At the end of each stage, according to this theory, God punished humanity for having been found wanting in God's testing. Secularism, liberalism, and immorality in the 1920s were believed to be signs that humanity had again failed God's testing. Dispensationalists believed that the world was on the verge of the last stage, where a final battle will take place at Armageddon, followed by Christ's return and 1,000 year reign.
I thought that was the time of PEACE....
So we passed the peace and couldn't ménage?

Well...
The Dude

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#111069 Apr 11, 2014
Nick wrote:
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Because evolution goes against the bible and them if the bibles wrong them most of the things we believe in are wrong so you cant really have both
Ball-shaped Earth goes against the Bible and if the Bible is wrong then most things you believe in are wrong so you can't really have both.

So what's wrong with accepting that the Bible is wrong?

Or alternatively, what's wrong with accepting that the Bible is an allegory?
The Dude

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#111070 Apr 11, 2014
Nick wrote:
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Bit it does if evolution is true then cant you see so much of the bible would be wrong and therefore creationism would be wrong
Depends on how you define Creationism.

If you define creationism simply just as a God creating the universe, there's no reason God could not have used evolution.

If you define creationism in the classical sense of Biblical literalism, then unfortunately it's been known for centuries that creationism (in that sense) is wrong on an EPIC scale.

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#111071 Apr 11, 2014
Damns Modernism to me is CONCRETE!!!!!!

You can't get around another stone age...
The Dude

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#111072 Apr 11, 2014
Nick wrote:
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But the while of the bible isnt allegorical countless event in it have been backed up by fact
No, facts do not matter to the Bible.

Is the Earth old? Then Goddidit. Is it young? Then Goddidit. Is it young but made to LOOK old? Then Goddidit.

Notice how facts have no bearing on Goddidit.

Goddidit no matter what.

Therefore no facts can back up the Bible.

Ever.
The Dude

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#111073 Apr 11, 2014
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Gotcha.
Poe.
Nah. Homeschooler.
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#111075 Apr 11, 2014
polymath257 wrote:
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Would you prefer to believe in a pleasant falsehood or an unpleasant truth? I would prefer to believe the truth and dispense with the falsehood. But what you are advocating is belief in a viewpoint because it would be pleasant, not because it is actually true. Sorry, that doesn't work for me.
You have not shown your God is real. You have not shown your heaven is real. You have not shown there is a relation between belief and anything that happens after death, or that *anything* happens after death. All you have claimed is that it is more pleasant to believe than not. Even if that is the case, that is not a reason to believe.
Sure stuff happens after death. Wormie all you can eat meat-salad bar!

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#111076 Apr 11, 2014
They called my post offensive???

\&#712;f&#601;n-d& #601;-m&#601;nt\ <----- what's this some fundamental message?

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#111077 Apr 11, 2014
The Dude wrote:
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Nah. Homeschooler.
Nice

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