Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 171828 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#100967 Oct 11, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Really? I don't know of any scientists that made that assumption. Do you have any evidence that supports that claim?
Here's another thing from Mr. Woodford:
"Spokes also reduce the air resistance on the front wheel when you're cornering."

I'd like to know where he got that from. Aside from the rider, the spokes are a major cause of aerodynamic drag.

“See how you are?”

Level 5

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#100968 Oct 11, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Not believing BS is NOT an extreme position. You don't seem to realise what you're claiming. You could throw an object the size of Jupiter at the sun and the sun would happily gobble it up and we wouldn't feel a thing. Now, if another star or large enough black hole happens to swing by our sun that that would be different...
With an AU of 150 million kilometers and containing 98+% of the mass in the solar system, I don't lose sleep wondering when Sol might capture a comet or two.
A mass the size of Jupiter might cause a woefully insignificant but mathematically measurable affect on the sun's position, but that would be a minuscule consequence compared to 2x10^27 kg of mass transiting through the asteroid belt and across planetary orbits. To be fair, I suppose there might be some concern about the possibility of an electromagnetic belch. It's "No Surprise" that s/he isn't versed enough in science to try to save the argument with a solar eruption. What do you think the odds are s/he thinks the seasons are caused by "The Earth is farther away in winter"?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#100969 Oct 11, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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Well of course it's all the gyroscope effect! That why we can sit our little kids on a bike, shove them down a hill and they don't fall over.
Wait a sec... That's not quite right.
in all the years that i have taught people to ski and snowboard, one of the first things i tell them is to relax and stay loose because a statue cannot ski or ride without falling over.

lets all think about how long a bicycle would stay balanced with a statue riding it...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#100970 Oct 11, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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With an AU of 150 million kilometers and containing 98+% of the mass in the solar system, I don't lose sleep wondering when Sol might capture a comet or two.
A mass the size of Jupiter might cause a woefully insignificant but mathematically measurable affect on the sun's position, but that would be a minuscule consequence compared to 2x10^27 kg of mass transiting through the asteroid belt and across planetary orbits. To be fair, I suppose there might be some concern about the possibility of an electromagnetic belch. It's "No Surprise" that s/he isn't versed enough in science to try to save the argument with a solar eruption. What do you think the odds are s/he thinks the seasons are caused by "The Earth is farther away in winter"?
you would not believe how many people think i am off my gourd when i tell them that in the northern hemishpere we are actually closer to the sun during winter...

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#100971 Oct 11, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>you would not believe how many people think i am off my gourd when i tell them that in the northern hemishpere we are actually closer to the sun during winter...
What? Now that's just crazy talk. Next thing I hear from you will probably be some sort of crazy claim like Australia is going into its summer.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#100972 Oct 11, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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Here's another thing from Mr. Woodford:
"Spokes also reduce the air resistance on the front wheel when you're cornering."
I'd like to know where he got that from. Aside from the rider, the spokes are a major cause of aerodynamic drag.
And I have yet to see him admit that he is wrong in any way at all.

I have seen many people try to argue against the fact that bicycles are balanced by counter steering. The fact is that a moving bicycle is almost infinitely easier to keep uprignt than a stationary bike. And like it or not to turn left you always turn right first.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#100973 Oct 11, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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What? Now that's just crazy talk. Next thing I hear from you will probably be some sort of crazy claim like Australia is going into its summer.
did you know it cannot rain in Australia as rain falls down...?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#100974 Oct 11, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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What? Now that's just crazy talk. Next thing I hear from you will probably be some sort of crazy claim like Australia is going into its summer.
it will be summer in Australia soon because an asteroid (which are made of ice...) slammed into the sun so it is closer to the Earth in that part of our orbit...

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#100975 Oct 11, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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And I have yet to see him admit that he is wrong in any way at all.
I have seen many people try to argue against the fact that bicycles are balanced by counter steering. The fact is that a moving bicycle is almost infinitely easier to keep uprignt than a stationary bike.
No doubt. The rotating wheels do play a part.
Subduction Zone wrote:
And like it or not to turn left you always turn right first.
How so?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#100976 Oct 11, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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No doubt. The rotating wheels do play a part.
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How so?
yeah, i'm not sure about that one either. if you have enough speed, can't you just lean left (or right) and balance against your inertia or centrifugal or centripetal force or whatever?

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#100977 Oct 11, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>did you know it cannot rain in Australia as rain falls down...?
Tru fact dat.

That is why the Outback is so dry.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#100978 Oct 11, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>yeah, i'm not sure about that one either. if you have enough speed, can't you just lean left (or right) and balance against your inertia or centrifugal or centripetal force or whatever?
To get yourself to lean left you turn the bike to the right. It is so ingrained in the rider that a turn is started with a turn in the opposite direction that people don't even realize that they do it. If you don't trust me try it yourself someday. Countersteering is how a bike keeps its balance and how turns are started.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#100979 Oct 11, 2013
Ahh, Wikipedia even has an article on countersteering:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countersteering

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#100981 Oct 11, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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To get yourself to lean left you turn the bike to the right. It is so ingrained in the rider that a turn is started with a turn in the opposite direction that people don't even realize that they do it. If you don't trust me try it yourself someday. Countersteering is how a bike keeps its balance and how turns are started.
Must be different on a motorcycle. I'll have to try it.

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#100982 Oct 11, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
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Really? It was a hypothesis, a pretend scenario for the sake of an argument and nothing more. And you took it seriously? You should feel really embarrassed for yourself, not me.
It was droolingly moronic... and THAT is being overly kind. The only thing that "hypothesis" (completely wrong term for what you posted) is an argument for is why a lack of education and critical thinking skills are so attractive/vital to religion.

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#100983 Oct 11, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>See, and i thought he meant for the entirety of your posts...not just that one.
Precisely! His posts show a downward spiral from sheer ignorance to astoundingly idiotic.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#100984 Oct 11, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Made up fundy BS does not make evidence, please provide a link to your source
And gravity has ALWAYS worked.
http://www.wimp.com/bohemiangravity/

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#100985 Oct 11, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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Must be different on a motorcycle. I'll have to try it.
Nope, it is the same. The motion is such an automatic response that we do not even think about it.

What sort of bike do you ride, many years ago I used to have a Suzuki 750. One summer I drove it from Minneapolis to DC and back. And then when I moved out to the west coast I drove my bike out here first. I made the mistake of "selling" it to a boyfriend of my sister's. He never paid fully for it.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#100986 Oct 11, 2013
MikeF wrote:
Freaking Awesome!!!!

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#100987 Oct 11, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Nope, it is the same. The motion is such an automatic response that we do not even think about it.
You are probably correct but I am, as yet, unconvinced.
Subduction Zone wrote:
What sort of bike do you ride, many years ago I used to have a Suzuki 750. One summer I drove it from Minneapolis to DC and back. And then when I moved out to the west coast I drove my bike out here first. I made the mistake of "selling" it to a boyfriend of my sister's. He never paid fully for it.
Bummer!

It's a Kawasaki Vulcan 1500 Classic.
http://images.psndealer.com/dealersite/images...

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