Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 197206 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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#100606 Oct 6, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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Yet you keep arguing that it could have happened.
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No, the earth cannot do whatever it will. It obeys the same laws of physics as everything else.
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And also because I'm not a friggin loony who thinks that anything can happen,
Yes. I keep arguing the earth can globally flood itself with or without us on it. That's true.
You are the one that is stating what the earth can't do.
You're the one that's stating you know something the rest of us don't because you state you know what the potentials of this earth are and aren't.
And loonies like you are the ones that demand others believe what you say is correct and true that you know what the earth can do and what it can't do. That's a fricking true looney speaking lol....

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#100607 Oct 6, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
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Yes. I keep arguing the earth can globally flood itself with or without us on it. That's true.
You are the one that is stating what the earth can't do.
You're the one that's stating you know something the rest of us don't because you state you know what the potentials of this earth are and aren't.
And loonies like you are the ones that demand others believe what you say is correct and true that you know what the earth can do and what it can't do. That's a fricking true looney speaking lol....
Though I personally cannot tell the Earth what it can or cannot do we do know that there was never during man's time on Earth a global flood. It was known long before Darwin's time that the Flood of Genesis was a myth.

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St. Croix valley

#100608 Oct 6, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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What was there to discuss? All you said was "just pointing out the incorrect parts of their statement"
yes. a verifiable fact that you shrugged off with your sure pal, sure...

now you are denying verifiable facts...again...

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#100609 Oct 6, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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And you ignored the evidence I did provide. So you're just a phony.
Are you admitting you lied? You stated..."I've already given posted the Atacama."...You stated that. What post number? I want to read it and give comment. So provide the post number or admit you're a phony and lied about posting the Atacama info.

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#100610 Oct 6, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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Read a book and your questions will be answered.
lol...talking about two faced phonies. Someone worth their knowledge of science even as an amature would try and give at the least an opinion to an actual question. I asked an actual question of where the real sea level lies if their was one. One poster attempted to answer it. You did as predicted. Nice job :)

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#100611 Oct 6, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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Massive ignorance. Amazing.
Predictably the massive ignorance is on your part because you seem not to know how to research a claim/remark/question made by another poster to see if it's even credible or not. You just do as usual and make an ignorant statement you think is amazing intellectual for a response. Nice job as usual.

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#100612 Oct 6, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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Here you say they do not make prediction.
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Here you say they do. Can't make up you mind? Or just confused?
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The following I took from the web for you since you are in too much of a damn hurry to even read your own links:
"The chief characteristic which distinguishes the scientific method from other methods of acquiring knowledge is that scientists seek to let reality speak for itself,[discuss] supporting a theory when a theory's predictions are confirmed and challenging a theory when its predictions prove false."
Notice the word "PREDICTIONS", moron?

You're such a bore. Just saying.

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#100613 Oct 6, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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So nobody knows what to look for, which would by definition include you. Therefore it still could have happened even though nobody knows what to look for.
And you want people to take you seriously, yes?
Actually, NS, we have already explained what you should be looking for. A modern day Earth looking something like this:
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2008092...
Of course science is not based on impossibilities, right? Which means we should have no problem with the possibility of all mountains on Earth to suddenly start flying 15,000 feet in the air tomorrow.
And apparently ours is the extremist position.
An extremist's position concerning science uses the words 'never''can't''impossible' and other such extreme limiting negative words that time in most cases concerning science proved were very incorrect and or foolish words to have been used. Just saying.

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#100614 Oct 6, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Actually you already demonstrated quite adequately that you don't have the slightest f cking clue.(shrug)
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Actually the evidence already provided DOES go against your claims. The fact that you not only ignored it but didn't even understand a single word of it is rather telling. It's not just simple time factors that's a problem, it's the massive massive inbreeding which leads to inevitable population decline. And that's not a tenable position when you only start with 8 people, half of which are already related. And even worse for the animals who had only two.
In short, you're talking out your azz. This is not a problem. Just say Goddidit with magic and all your problems will be solved.
lol...the fact that you think two individuals having a sense of right and wrong as we would enforce mass inbreeding states you don't have a clue of what you claim to think you know which you don't.
We have tribes existing on this earth in the most remote places that they were only known about inn the last 100 years by outsiders and they don't practice massive, massive inbreeding to exist. As a matter of fact they understand it's better to marry outside of the family, a fact you have no clue of.
Next. Pretending, PRETENDING that the human race evolved from two parents with our supposed knowledge of right and wrong, Actual direct incest would only exist between the first brother and sister relationships. The next generation of relationships would be first cousins. The next second cousins etc.
point being your clueless thinking that massive, massive inbreeding would have to take place to begin a population of generations was a massive, massive clueless statement. Just saying.

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#100615 Oct 6, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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So you DO at least accept, in principle, the concept of falsification (though you apparently don't understand it).
That's why the mountains COULD possibly fly tomorrow.
Falsification. Oh! You mean like your falsified statement that massive, massive inbreeding would have to take place for a population of generations to exist coming from just a male and female? Sure I understand it. You self defined it :)

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#100616 Oct 6, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Right, so you've never claimed there was a Biblical global flood, but you've vehemently chastised us for rejecting the possibility despite the complete and total lack of evidence and mounds of evidence against it. So your whole point here is that it MIGHT be true.
Because invisible Jewish magic MIGHT be true.
Same as the Cosmic Sheep.
Big whoop.(shrug)
Nope. Never chastised anyone for rejecting the possibility of a Biblical flood. Never chastised anyone for rejecting the possibility that the earth has flooded itself or could flood itself globally.
I stated people were ignorant for using words like 'never' and 'impossible' in connection/relation to science discussions. Understand the difference?

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#100617 Oct 6, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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It's my shallow narrow restrictive opinion that a 40 stone fat guy is not gonna pass through a six inch gap between two house size blocks of solid metal. At least not intact.
See that's the problem here NS, is that sometimes reality CAN be somewhat restrictive towards myths and fantasies.
Myth and fantasy begins and ends when people declare what the earth is capable of and what it's not capable of doing. That's a real problem.

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#100618 Oct 6, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Are you seriously saying theories get proven? Seriously?
So the opposite for you is your position that theories don't get proven. Seriously?

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#100619 Oct 6, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>possibly the most awkwardly written opening sentence ever...
did you learn that writing style where you learned about geological history?
Yeah....lol. What excuse do you use for your grammer?

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#100620 Oct 6, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>where did the Hopi flood story come from then?
That isn't a known. To know that you'd have to know where the first Hopi's originated from and that would give you a clue to the influences they experienced from other cultures for their storytelling.
They claim the creator already destroyed the earth twice by fire and cold/water. They do have a third story that specifically mentions a 'flooding'. And they believe we are to experience another flooding.

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#100621 Oct 6, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>isn't that what most rational people believe about the flood stories? showing that the bible is just a work of complete fiction...
There is no rationale to stating what can't be proven to have existed or exists never thus existed.

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#100622 Oct 6, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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If you are not agreeing with them completely then you are seen as a creationists, otherwise the enemy and they will tell you what you believe. lol
Very true. lol If one states they think the earth has the potential to flood itself or maybe has in the past, they automatically have to believe your a creationist.

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#100623 Oct 6, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>just a statement of verifiable fact, which i noticed you couldn't seem to discuss...
Do you think absence of evidence is evidence of absence?(a little saying from dude)

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Everett, WA

#100624 Oct 6, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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Do you think absence of evidence is evidence of absence?(a little saying from dude)
It can be.

It determines on what is supposedly there.

No huge piles of poop, a lack of vegetation eaten, no dents in the sod, are all pretty good evidence that I do not have an elephant living in my backyard.

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#100625 Oct 6, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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One does have to wonder if they had never seen an elephant how the similarities came about. Good links.
If you google Mayan elephant art and hit images you'll get some great likenesses.
I like the ongoing research of the Egyptian cocaine mummies. Seems to be a more agreed opinion that cross contamination isn't the issue. But scientist's won't touch this because if the hair samples are true and correct, there's no way to explain by evidence how or when Egyptians came into possession of such a plant. I like puzzles better than a completed one, always has you thinking and guessing for clues and answers.

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