Evolution vs. Creation

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#98481 Aug 24, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>Enough of the bible is disproven to cast a bad light on the whole of it.

The stuff that we can PROVE is wrong in the Bible is, to me, conclusive evidence of it all being a book of myths.

All the supernatural stuff going on in Genesis and Exodus is total provable myth. It fooled the early converts, and it continues to make suckers of people today
None of the Bible has been proven wrong!

Lets see your proof.
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#98482 Aug 24, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>This has nothing to do with what we were talking about.

I'm here saying that your world-view is measurably wrong. The very foundation of the Christian religion is totally under attack, and you ARE losing the battle.

Science has totally disproven your version of the beginning of our world/universe. It has disproven your version of the beginnings of humanity (Adam/Eve), it has disproven your 'Flood', it has disproven your idea of how the different languages came about, it has also completely disproven the Hebrew diaspora out of Egypt.

These are important foundational myths of the Jewish and Christian people. They are attempts to establish the Judeo-Christian God as real and the supreme and only God of this planet and universe.

When the stories are proven to be myths (and they are); where does this leave the Judeo-Christian religion?
"I'm here saying that your world-view is measurably wrong. The very foundation of the Christian religion is totally under attack, and you ARE losing the battle."

You can say all you want. That doesn't make it fact.

The Bible is the word of God and none of its been proven wrong.
Your claim on the age of everything does not make it correct either.

I'm not saying this is what happened but something you don't even consider is
God made all the animal mature and God mad man and woman mature what makes you think he didn't make the universe and earth mature also?

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#98484 Aug 24, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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None of the Bible has been proven wrong!
Lets see your proof.
You mean evidence, don't you?

What do you want? Self contradictions? Here are over 400 of them:

http://www.bibviz.com/

Failed prophesies? Here is a twofer:

http://etb-biblical-errancy.blogspot.com/2012...

And let's not forget the scientifically proven failures of Genesis.

And the archaeologically proven failure of Exodus.

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#98485 Aug 24, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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"I'm here saying that your world-view is measurably wrong. The very foundation of the Christian religion is totally under attack, and you ARE losing the battle."
You can say all you want. That doesn't make it fact.
The Bible is the word of God and none of its been proven wrong.
Your claim on the age of everything does not make it correct either.
I'm not saying this is what happened but something you don't even consider is
God made all the animal mature and God mad man and woman mature what makes you think he didn't make the universe and earth mature also?
No matter how many times you repeat that lie it will not be true.

The Bible is simply a book of myth. That is all. It claims the Earth is flat. It claims you can affect the coloration of calves by showing the mother striped sticks!

Seriously, get a clue.

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#98486 Aug 24, 2013
Oops, make that sheep. Genesis 30 37-39:

"37 Then Jacob took fresh sticks of poplar and almond and plane trees, and peeled white streaks in them, exposing the white of the sticks. 38 He set the sticks that he had peeled in front of the flocks in the troughs, that is, the watering places, where the flocks came to drink. And since they bred when they came to drink, 39 the flocks bred in front of the sticks and so the flocks brought forth striped, speckled, and spotted."
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#98487 Aug 24, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
<quoted text>The answer to that is, even these species types are so overlapping thatin many cases paleontologists argue about whether a specimen is really one or the other. So there are no transitionals because there are really no gaps!

If you ignore the species definitions ans simply look at the specimen progression, there is a continuum from early autralopith to modern man.
So if a fossil over laps another fossil there are no missing transitionals?
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#98488 Aug 24, 2013
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>Most of it has. How about since it is your cult religion you prove your buybulls lies......AND START........listening......wa iting.....
Buybull the great book on evolution!

B - bull crap
U - unproven theory
Y - yelled from the roof tops
B - beseeching all to listen to an
U - unscientific
L - loony toon
L - lie

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#98491 Aug 24, 2013
The Almighty Tater wrote:
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Buybull the great book on evolution!
B - bull crap
U - unproven theory
Y - yelled from the roof tops
B - beseeching all to listen to an
U - unscientific
L - loony toon
L - lie
And much like Urb whenever he is shown to be wrong he goes back to this nonsense.
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#98492 Aug 24, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>You mean evidence, don't you?

What do you want? Self contradictions? Here are over 400 of them:

http://www.bibviz.com/

Failed prophesies? Here is a twofer:

http://etb-biblical-errancy.blogspot.com/2012...

And let's not forget the scientifically proven failures of Genesis.

And the archaeologically proven failure of Exodus.
None there, do you have any real facts?
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#98493 Aug 24, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>No matter how many times you repeat that lie it will not be true.

The Bible is simply a book of myth. That is all. It claims the Earth is flat. It claims you can affect the coloration of calves by showing the mother striped sticks!

Seriously, get a clue.
So your stupid then?
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#98494 Aug 24, 2013
Huh wrote:
BUYBULL means your cults handbook the bible IDIOT..........

NOW PROVE YOUR GOD AND BIBLE IS RIGHT......Once and for all shut us educated sane people up and prove your cults bs.....COME ON SHOW US....

Yea right..........
Buybull the great book on evolution!

B - bull crap
U - unproven theory
Y - yelled from the roof tops
B - beseeching all to listen to an
U - unscientific
L - loony toon
L - lie
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#98495 Aug 24, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>And much like Urb whenever he is shown to be wrong he goes back to this nonsense.
I will post this every time some one call the Bible the BUYBULL.
A sharper person say one with an iq above 70 would have figured that out by now.

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#98496 Aug 24, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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None there, do you have any real facts?
Wrong again. Those are real facts.

Those are real contradictions in the Bible.

That is a real failed prophesy.

And we have shown countless times how Adam and Eve and Noah's Ark are myths.

Now, I have supplied that your Bible is just a steaming pile of dingo's fecal matter, what evidence do you have that it is correct?

Remember, without evidence you lose.

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#98497 Aug 24, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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So your stupid then?
My Stupid then?

Would you care to try again in English?

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#98498 Aug 24, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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I will post this every time some one call the Bible the BUYBULL.
A sharper person say one with an iq above 70 would have figured that out by now.
That is fine with me. It only shows that you are a complete idiot.

For example ALL theories in science are "unproven". Proof is for math and alcohol. It seems that your mother had too much of the latter when you were in utero.

“Lets all play DantheDipshyts”

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#98499 Aug 24, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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That is fine with me. It only shows that you are a complete idiot.
For example ALL theories in science are "unproven". Proof is for math and alcohol. It seems that your mother had too much of the latter when you were in utero.
Why is proof for math and not for science when science uses math in all it does but requires no proof.
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#98500 Aug 24, 2013
Huh wrote:
For 1000+ years Christians have said there religion is the right one.....ONCE AND FOR ALL PROVE IT!!!!!!!!!! I mean just one once one tiny shred of proof. That is all I ask.
Where did Time come from?

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#98503 Aug 24, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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Why is proof for math and not for science when science uses math in all it does but requires no proof.
Because you cannot prove something absolutely in science. A lesson that they have learned over time.

Perhaps the closest they have come are the laws of thermodynamics, but most nonscientists do not really know how these work and quite often get them wrong.

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#98504 Aug 24, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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Where did Time come from?
A question that cannot be answered right now is not evidence for god.

If you were in a math class and someone asked you a mathematical question that you could not do yet would that be evidence for God?

I hope you would answer no to that.

There is such a thing as a "stupid question". When you ask a question and are assuming that it proves something that it does not I would call that a "stupid question".

The correct answer is "we don't know yet." There is nothing wrong with that answer. It is honest. It is as complete as we can make it right now. And it does not imply the existence or non-existence of God in any way.

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#98505 Aug 24, 2013
Huh wrote:
I can see the almighty tzar is just a liar and moron. PROVE YOUR RELIGION AND GOD ARE REAL OR SHUT UP FREAK.
To be fair, that is something that cannot be proven.

But if his god was real you would think he could find some evidence for it.

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