Evolution vs. Creation

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“Robert Stevens”

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Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#94416 Jun 28, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Wrong. If Darwin could be shown to be wrong with evidence we would gladly accept that. Sadly for your side all evidence supports his theory to date. It shows that we have no fear in Darwin being wrong since we constantly ask for evidence. If you want to say that we are fundamental about anything it would be evidence, not individuals.
He as been and too many times for you to even say that. The science channel covers his errors all the time. He has a low average,

“Robert Stevens”

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Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#94417 Jun 28, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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Well, you *DO* have a sense of humor. Those that support the advancement of science are stuck in the past but fundamental creationist are not. That was pretty damn funny!
Wait!
We're you serious???
No question I am correct. I have corresponded with atheist here that believe there is no such thing as paranormal. That statement means we know everything. The plain simple truth is we will never know enough to prove that there is no creator, and I have heard higher educated atheist that you have in your top debates, admit this. However one could prove to oneself there is a God, I am sorry for you if you can't, or refuse to accept it.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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#94418 Jun 28, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>what gaps are you talking about?
He has gaps in his understanding.

“pshhhhh”

Since: Jun 13

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#94419 Jun 28, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>He has gaps in his understanding.
I think theres a gap in your head where a brain is suppose to be

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#94420 Jun 28, 2013
Aussiebob wrote:
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The complexity of living systems could never evolve by chance—they had to be designed and created. A system that is irreducibly complex has precise components working together to perform the basic function of the system.(A mousetrap is a simple example.) If any part of that system were missing, the system would cease to function. Gradual additions could not account for the origin of such a system. It would have to come together fully formed and integrated. Many living systems exhibit this (vision, blood-clotting, etc.). When you look at a watch, you assume there was a watchmaker. A watch is too complex to "happen" by chance. Yet such living systems are almost infinitely more complex than a watch. They could not be random—they simply had to be designed and created.
The high information content of DNA could only have come from intelligence. Information science teaches that in all known cases, complex information requires an intelligent message sender. This is at the core of the Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence (SETI). DNA is by far the most compact information storage/retrieval system known. A pinhead of DNA has a billion times more information capacity than a 4-gigabit hard drive. Ironically, evolutionists scan the heavens using massive radio telescopes hoping for relatively simple signal patterns that might have originated in outer space, all the while ignoring the incredibly complex evidence of superior intelligence built into every human's DNA. While we're waiting to hear signs of intelligence behind interstellar communication, we're ignoring those built into us.
No mutation that increases genetic information has ever been discovered. Mutations which increase genetic information would be the raw material necessary for evolution. To get from "amoeba" to "man" would require a massive net increase in information. There are many examples of supposed evolution given by proponents. Variation within a species (finch beak, for example), bacteria which acquire antibiotic resistance, people born with an extra chromosome, etc. However, none of the examples demonstrate the development of new information. Instead, they demonstrate either preprogrammed variation, multiple copies of existing information, or even loss of information (natural selection and adaptation involve loss of information). The total lack of any such evidence refutes evolutionary theory.
Too long did not read.

I read the first line or so. Luckily for us evolution is not a random process so the rest of your spiel does not apply.

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#94421 Jun 28, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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He as been and too many times for you to even say that. The science channel covers his errors all the time. He has a low average,
Wrong, his theory is stronger today than ever.

If he had some serious errors you or your allies could find them. So far your side has bupkis.

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#94422 Jun 28, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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No question I am correct. I have corresponded with atheist here that believe there is no such thing as paranormal. That statement means we know everything. The plain simple truth is we will never know enough to prove that there is no creator, and I have heard higher educated atheist that you have in your top debates, admit this. However one could prove to oneself there is a God, I am sorry for you if you can't, or refuse to accept it.
You drew an incorrect conclusion. The belief that there is no paranormal in no way implies that we know everything.

And your second error is assuming that the burden of proof is upon atheists. It is the other way around. It is up to theist to prove their god exists. The null hypothesis basically says that you do not believe in concepts without evidence. There is no evidence that I know of that supports the existence of god. Give us evidence and we will believe.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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#94423 Jun 28, 2013
Aussiebob wrote:
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I think theres a gap in your head where a brain is suppose to be
Is that what you thought? Well we all have gaps in our understanding somewhere. But I can assure you my head is normal in appearance and without gaps where brain should be.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#94424 Jun 28, 2013
Aussiebob wrote:
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Why get so butt-hurt if they all fit why are theyre gaps it cant all fit if there are gaps fool
Please retype in English idiot.

First off, I am not butt-hurt. That only happens to creatards when they are proved wrong time after time.

If you want to learn why the fossil record supports only the theory of evolution you need to do quite a bit more learning. Ignorant fools should not get too uppity when addressing their superiors.

“pshhhhh”

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#94425 Jun 28, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>Please retype in English idiot.

First off, I am not butt-hurt. That only happens to creatards when they are proved wrong time after time.

If you want to learn why the fossil record supports only the theory of evolution you need to do quite a bit more learning. Ignorant fools should not get too uppity when addressing their superiors.
Fortunately its an internet forum and il spell however i feel like it haha oh man you think your my superior i bet your just a fat nerd that sits behind a computer all day using your parents internet

“pshhhhh”

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#94426 Jun 28, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>Please retype in English idiot.

First off, I am not butt-hurt. That only happens to creatards when they are proved wrong time after time.

If you want to learn why the fossil record supports only the theory of evolution you need to do quite a bit more learning. Ignorant fools should not get too uppity when addressing their superiors.

I believe in neither you dumb f-u-c-k
I think I'm somewhere in the middle

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#94427 Jun 28, 2013
Aussiebob wrote:
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Fortunately its an internet forum and il spell however i feel like it haha oh man you think your my superior i bet your just a fat nerd that sits behind a computer all day using your parents internet
Wrong idiot. I am semi-retired because I can be. In my own house. Not a huge house, not a small house. Just a nice house. I don't own a "killer sportscar" I have a Ford pickup truck.

I am a little over weight, but I could still take you apart if necessary.

And mentally it is fairly obvious that you are a midget that worships the Bible but does not understand it.

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#94428 Jun 28, 2013
Aussiebob wrote:
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I believe in neither you dumb f-u-c-k
I think I'm somewhere in the middle
I know, the beliefs that you have espoused so far are in many ways worse than those of creatards. I guess you might be that rare evotard that creatards talk about all of the time.

“pshhhhh”

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#94429 Jun 28, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>Wrong idiot. I am semi-retired because I can be. In my own house. Not a huge house, not a small house. Just a nice house. I don't own a "killer sportscar" I have a Ford pickup truck.

I am a little over weight, but I could still take you apart if necessary.

And mentally it is fairly obvious that you are a midget that worships the Bible but does not understand it.
Haha yeah yeah nope i worship the binle either idiot haha take me apart oh well what ever helps you sleep at night buddy

“pshhhhh”

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#94430 Jun 28, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>Wrong idiot. I am semi-retired because I can be. In my own house. Not a huge house, not a small house. Just a nice house. I don't own a "killer sportscar" I have a Ford pickup truck.

I am a little over weight, but I could still take you apart if necessary.

And mentally it is fairly obvious that you are a midget that worships the Bible but does not understand it.
Yupp a 6 ft 1 midget pretty rare i hear

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#94431 Jun 28, 2013
Aussiebob wrote:
<quoted text>Haha yeah yeah nope i worship the binle either idiot haha take me apart oh well what ever helps you sleep at night buddy
* dont worship the bible*

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#94432 Jun 28, 2013
Aussiebob wrote:
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Haha yeah yeah nope i worship the binle either idiot haha take me apart oh well what ever helps you sleep at night buddy
So you may not worship the Bible. The rest definitely stands.

Since we cannot settle a physical confrontation over the internet, how about a mental one. Let's see if you can clearly state what you believe and defend it.

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#94433 Jun 28, 2013
Aussiebob wrote:
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Yupp a 6 ft 1 midget pretty rare i hear
I said mental midget. And thanks for confirming my claim.

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#94434 Jun 28, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>I said mental midget. And thanks for confirming my claim.
Oh man your fun to troll haha

“The strength of science is”

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founded in facts.

#94435 Jun 28, 2013
Aussiebob wrote:
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Yupp a 6 ft 1 midget pretty rare i hear
Stop. You're scaring me.

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