Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 222984 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#90138 May 22, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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"Matthew 5:17–20
17 “Do not think that I came to abolish the aLaw or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.
18 “For truly I say to you, auntil heaven and earth pass away, not 1the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.
Jesus "FULFILLED" and "ACCOMPLISHED" the Prophecies under the law when he died, was buried and raised again. This new covenant meant that sins would be forgiven (covered from the Father's eyes) for the saved, who accepted Christ as the Son of God.
20 “For I say to you that unless your arighteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven."
The scribes and pharisees were like todays lawless politicians, unethical judges and crooked lawyers, full of pride and out for one thing, money, not faith.
Wrong. There are no verses that support your statement. Please notice he said "until heaven and Earth pass away". Now I don't know about heaven, but Earth definitely has not passed away.

You are starting to grasp. Keep trying.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#90139 May 22, 2013
Patriot wrote:
I forgot to add in last post in answer to Matt 5:17-20 was there was where Christ fulfilled the law and it was remain until he fulfilled it and that he did. Of the 300+(I think exact # is 313) the prophecies in OT about him he fulfilled them all.
Actually no. Part of the "Jesus story" was written by people who were fairly familiar with the OT prophecies so certain prophecies were "fulfilled" by the authors. For example Jesus was not called "Emmanuel". One verse claims that he was. Yet everywhere else he is called Jesus. That was a ham fisted attempt by the author to "fulfill" a prophesy. And the so called fulfilling of prophecy causes occasional contradictions in the NT where one writer writes one detail and another a different one. Each trying to fulfill prophecies that never came true.

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Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#90140 May 22, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>You should know that it means, even if your family trys to turn you against Jesus, you should choose him over them and if you don't, you are not his true follower.
A similar sentiment is often expressed by cult leaders.
FREE SERVANT
#90141 May 22, 2013
Patriot wrote:
Free Servant, I was reading a little while ago and came across something of interest to you and our athiest "friends" . Paul wrote to Timothy in 1 Tim 6:20 "...keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings and OPPOSITIONS OF SCIENCE FALSELY SO CALLED." It shows back in the day ones tried far fetched speculations to deny the faith. Those in large part belonged to the Gnostnics.I just consider the ones on here to be in the same class of folks. I am taking hiatus, take care and good luck! God Bless!
May God Bless you and God Bless America!
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#90142 May 22, 2013
Patriot wrote:
I forgot to add in last post in answer to Matt 5:17-20 was there was where Christ fulfilled the law and it was remain until he fulfilled it and that he did. Of the 300+(I think exact # is 313) the prophecies in OT about him he fulfilled them all.
Jesus fulfilled NO messianic prophecies. You are counting verses and taking them out of context. If people counted prophecy the way you do, we've all fulfilled the bible. There is not a single prophecy that Jesus fulfilled, name ONE?
FREE SERVANT
#90143 May 22, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>That's what the Nazis said.
Who are the ones now days trying to call anyone who doesn't think Evolution is right unstable and a danger to everyone around them? Sounds like something a large cult would do to aquire control of people. Just sayin
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#90144 May 22, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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And the girasas?
That is not a word, what do you mean? If you're trying to tick me off, its working and deadly.
FREE SERVANT
#90145 May 22, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>A similar sentiment is often expressed by cult leaders.
I meant to post to you and replied to Mac, but it is the same thing you guys are doing when you liken Christians to Nazies and cults just to try and control peoples thinking and convince everyone there is no God, your leaders are telling you to promote a lie.
KJV

United States

#90146 May 22, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
A-Myth doesn't really know much so he try's to just play the mock card.
A-Myth got any sixes? I'm betting he's holding 3.
"

The number of the beast isn't six six six, but I got any number of numbers you want. The 666 is a assumption made superstition.

Here you can sing along.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7ci6_iron-m...

But it's just a marketing ploy.
If there is a number of the beast ,you could count it by it's senses.
I know but the joke would not have worked very well with 615 or what ever.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#90147 May 22, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>That is not a word, what do you mean? If you're trying to tick me off, its working and deadly.
"Deadly"?

For whom?
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#90148 May 22, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
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"Deadly"?
For whom?
Psalm 2:12 "Kiss the Son lest he be angry and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little"

“See how you are?”

Level 5

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#90149 May 22, 2013
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
So you believe that all that is and all that ever was came from NOTHING exploding?
Just weird.[/QUOTE]

Expanding.
You could call it weird, I find it considerably less fantastical than most of the creation myths. You think that the entire universe was created so that sheep herders could worship God from a near infinitely obscure ball of dirt? You have no concept of scale whatsoever.

“See how you are?”

Level 5

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#90150 May 22, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>Jesus fulfilled NO messianic prophecies. You are counting verses and taking them out of context. If people counted prophecy the way you do, we've all fulfilled the bible. There is not a single prophecy that Jesus fulfilled, name ONE?
Agreed. I don't think that people like Patriot would actually read the list of those "prophecies," they just accept the rambling scribbles of nutball bloggers and pass it on.
Patriot

Nashville, TN

#90151 May 22, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>Jesus fulfilled NO messianic prophecies. You are counting verses and taking them out of context. If people counted prophecy the way you do, we've all fulfilled the bible. There is not a single prophecy that Jesus fulfilled, name ONE?
Just one you say..ok Isiah 53:7. Psalms 22 is a messianic psalm.
Patriot

Nashville, TN

#90152 May 22, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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So then your morals are not absolute nor is your god unchanging.
Morals are absolute and GOD does not change James 1:17. Heb 13:8. 1 Peter 1:25

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Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#90153 May 22, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>Who are the ones now days trying to call anyone who doesn't think Evolution is right unstable and a danger to everyone around them? Sounds like something a large cult would do to aquire control of people. Just sayin
Who does that? If you deny evolution you are deluding yourself, and are really being rather... quaint... if anything, but your stupidity certainly doesn't make you dangerous. By the same token, I am not afraid of flat earthers.

Hey guy, didja know that "evolutionists" have nothing in common with cult members? Where do you guys get this stuff?
FREE SERVANT
#90154 May 22, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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Expanding.
You could call it weird, I find it considerably less fantastical than most of the creation myths. You think that the entire universe was created so that sheep herders could worship God from a near infinitely obscure ball of dirt? You have no concept of scale whatsoever.
Why not take a count of the number of cells and parts that were created so that you can live and breath.

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Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#90155 May 22, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>I meant to post to you and replied to Mac, but it is the same thing you guys are doing when you liken Christians to Nazies and cults just to try and control peoples thinking and convince everyone there is no God, your leaders are telling you to promote a lie.
I don't tell anyone there is no god. I just don't believe in one. That you seem to think that evolution is incompatible with the notion of god is the fault of evangelicals, not scientists. No scientist goes around saying "evolution disproves god." It's the religious nutjobs who go around saying "evolution can't possibly be true... because god!"
Tyler Armstrong

Englewood, CO

#90156 May 22, 2013
Eveloution can't be true for more than one reason. if the big bang was true all planets would spin in the same direction. Explain this. How do you explain who created the world. Also say for the gun control in the us how would their be free will if their was no one to put it in us. Also how come monkeys now are not turning into humans? Huh?
Patriot

Nashville, TN

#90157 May 22, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Actually no. Part of the "Jesus story" was written by people who were fairly familiar with the OT prophecies so certain prophecies were "fulfilled" by the authors. For example Jesus was not called "Emmanuel". One verse claims that he was. Yet everywhere else he is called Jesus. That was a ham fisted attempt by the author to "fulfill" a prophesy. And the so called fulfilling of prophecy causes occasional contradictions in the NT where one writer writes one detail and another a different one. Each trying to fulfill prophecies that never came true.
The gospels conplement each other, for example Luke was written from a Greek perspective(he was a physician)Matthew was written from a Jewish perspective. The 3 synoptic gospels, Matt, Mark, Luke record most of the same events but at times they recorded different parts of the same event that can add on to the events the other recorded about the same incident. The gospel of John recorded events mostly not recorded by the 3 others.For example the story of the rich young ruler, the accounts of Matt and Luke each record details the other did not, but they do not contradict each other. For example you and I go to town and we go to a department store and we write about the trip. In your narrative you talk about the place we went,for example we go to department store and you talk about looking at shoes, coats, cookware Mostly and I mostly talk about visiting the sporting goods,pet supplies,shoes and the coats .there is no contradiction we just give different details of the same trip.Even though I did not mention looking at cookware that in no way contradicts your account

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