Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 171978 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#88184 Apr 28, 2013
part II

This is but one of many, many evidences that support the truth of evolution - that make it a “sacred fact” that Christians must embrace in the name of truth. And they should embrace this truth with enthusiasm, for this is the world that God created.

Christians must come to welcome - rather than fear - the ideas of evolution. Truths about Nature are sacred, for they speak of our Creator. Such truths constitute “God’s second book” for Christians to read alongside the Bible.

In the 17th century, Galileo used the metaphor of the “two books” to help Christians of his generation understand the sacred truth that the earth moves about the sun.“The Bible,” he liked to say,“tells us how to go to heaven, not how the heavens ago.”

To understand how the heavens go we must read the book of Nature, not the Bible.

The Book of nature reveals the truth that God created the world through gradual processes over billions of years, rather than over the course of six days, as many creationists believe.

Evolution does not contradict the Bible unless you force an unreasonable interpretation on that ancient book.

To suppose, as the so-called young earth creationists do, that God dictated modern scientific ideas to ancient and uncomprehending scribes is to distort the biblical message beyond recognition. Modern science was not in the worldview of the biblical authors and it is not in the Bible.

Science is not a sinister enterprise aimed at destroying faith. It’s an honest exploration of the wonderful world that God created.

We are often asked to think about what Jesus would do, if he lived among us today. Who would Jesus vote for? What car would he drive?

To these questions we should add “What would Jesus believe about origins?”

And the answer? Jesus would believe evolution, of course. He cares for the Truth.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#88185 Apr 28, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
God shows himself in many ways.
Seek and he shall find.
Most atheists in the U.S. know the Bible much better than most Christians. They have sought. They are also aware of possible traps, such as confirmation bias. The evidence does not seem to be out there.
KJV

United States

#88187 Apr 28, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>actually, new life forms pop up in the geological record throughout history.

your cult only talks of one creation event, in total opposition to the known facts in the matter.
You've got proof of life still being spontaneous self generating?
KJV

United States

#88188 Apr 28, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>the proof is in the total lack of any verifiable evidence of any magic.

the proof your cult god is a myth is the impossiblity of the god your cult describes ever existing as stated. your cult even contradicts itself about it's own god. he is infallible, yret changes his mind often. he performed a creation event that didn't happen that way. he lies to his people when that god is supposedly above lying.

your cult lied to you...again...proven fact.
Sorry that's not proof

'Sigh'
KJV

United States

#88189 Apr 28, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>but you don't even have one teensy eensy shred of evidence for the god of your cult or for any god, gods or goddesses at all.

not one shred. nada. zilch. zippo. none.
Again a old lie. Nothing ever new offered from this broken record.
KJV

United States

#88190 Apr 28, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>I have no time for an ignorant fool right now.

And a lying one at that.

What is the most recent and most accurate poll on the percentage of atheists again? You know you were lying when you posted your source. You broke rule number one for creatards, that prove you not only lied but that you know that you lied. In the 2012 Pew Poll the number of atheists and agnostics was up to 6%. If you add in the 14% who have no religious faith that number is 20%.

In another 20 years you may be in the minority.
Posted with links.
I didn't write it.

Note all source are listed, and yes Pew is one in the list. No lies

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#sectio...

A 2010 survey published in Encyclopedia Britannica found that is atheists at about 2.0%.

Another study assessing religiosity among scientists who are members of the American Association for the Advancement of Science found that "just over half of scientists (51%) believe in some form of deity or higher power.

Sociologist Philip Schwadel found that higher levels of education are associated with increased religious participation and religious practice in daily life.

According to a 2012 report by the Pew Research Center, people describing themselves as "atheist" were 2% of the total population in the US.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_o...

According to the International Bulletin of Missionary Research, an academic journal, "about 80,000 new Christians every day, 79,000 new Muslims every day, and 300 fewer atheists every day."

Another survey attributed to Britannica shows the population of atheists at around 2.4% of the world's population

While there are more atheists than ever before as global population continually increases, the atheist percentage of the total population seem to be declining

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_religi...

Sources outside of Wikipedia give differing estimates:

The CIA's World Factbook gives the world population as 7,021,836,029 (July 2012 est.) and the distribution of religions as Christian 33.39%(of which Roman Catholic 16.85%, Protestant 6.15%, Orthodox 3.96%, Anglican 1.26%), Muslim 22.74%, Hindu 13.8%, Buddhist 6.77%, Sikh 0.35%, Jewish 0.22%, Baha'i 0.11%, other religions 10.95%, atheists 2.01%

persecution. A 2006 study by researchers at the University of Minnesota involving a poll of 2,000 households in the United States found atheists to be the most distrusted of minorities,

In 2012, an article entitled Atheism in decline by Nigel Tomes declared:

In 1970 atheists (those avowing there is no God) numbered 166 million worldwide; that was almost one-in-twenty—4.5% of the globe’s population. By 2012 atheists’ number is estimated at 137 million. That’s a decline of almost 30 million. Since world population is growing, atheists’ share declined to less than one-in-fifty—under 2% in 2012. Put differently, every 24 hours there are 800 fewer atheists in the world! Atheism is in decline.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#88191 Apr 28, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry that's not proof
'Sigh'
sure it is.

the god of your cult is a proven myth. and there is no magic. you cannot deny these facts honestly.
KJV

United States

#88192 Apr 28, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, only a Christian could come up with something like that.

So KJV, are you sorry that your man lost?
Sorry Sub.
He was not one of us.

“Rising”

Level 8

Since: Dec 10

Milky Way

#88193 Apr 28, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
You've got proof of life still being spontaneous self generating?
You got proof all species existed at the same time?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#88194 Apr 28, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
You've got proof of life still being spontaneous self generating?
proof that the creation event as described didn't happen.

your cult lied to you...again....you know, the cult you continually, repeatedly lie about being in, and then spew their bible word for word..that cult.

why do you have to continually lie about your cult? have you ever posted on true comment?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#88195 Apr 28, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Again a old lie. Nothing ever new offered from this broken record.
no, the truth. why can you not provide this proof if it is such an old lie?

your cult lied to you....again...

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Level 7

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#88196 Apr 28, 2013
MikeF wrote:
<quoted text>
Seriously!
That'n made me go *blink*.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Level 9

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#88197 Apr 28, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong.
No, you are wrong....I live a sin free life.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Level 9

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#88198 Apr 28, 2013
ViaDolorosa wrote:
Evolution has not one iota of evidence - none, zilch, nadda.
It would take more faith to believe in evolution than God - if you guys would just stop and think about it.
Look for the book "Why Evolution is True" by Jerry Coyne in your local library. His book totally refutes what you are saying here and shows you step by step how evolution is working, and has been working, for over 3 billion years, here on earth.

You are doing nothing but repeating stuff you read on Christian sites.

You have no idea how the real world works.

You do no research on any site that appears to be scientific.

You are actually clueless

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#88199 Apr 28, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry Sub.
He was not one of us.
Denial. You cannot decide what religion a man has, only that man can. And according to Hitler he was one of you.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#88201 Apr 28, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Posted with links.
I didn't write it.<snip>
Atheism is in decline.
Oops, my mistake. You still posted the wrong poll results.

You should know that was not the most recent poll. This is the most recent poll, and it debunks all of your claims:

http://redcresearch.ie/wp-content/uploads/201...

Atheism in the U.S. is 6% and growing. Worldwide 13% of the population considers themselves to be convinced atheists.

In the U.S. if you add the atheists to those who have no religion or are agnostic and you have 20% of the populaton.
KJV

United States

#88202 Apr 28, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>sure it is.

the god of your cult is a proven myth. and there is no magic. you cannot deny these facts honestly.
"the god of your cult is a proven myth. and there is no magic. you cannot deny these facts honestly"

List the proof.
KJV

United States

#88203 Apr 28, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>You got proof all species existed at the same time?
Yup.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#88204 Apr 28, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Yup.
Lying for Jesus is still lying. Breaking the Ninth Commandment is a sin for Christians.

You know you have nothing.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Level 9

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#88205 Apr 28, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
I am aware that men commit sins with that scripture. However I don't worship men or church. When the Bible is talking about stoning witches it's talking about real practicing witches in the very real occult. Witches that burnt their children to death in sacrifices to Satan.
Your argument is like claiming stop signs should be removed because so many accident happen around them.
You need to see and accept that the so called 'witches' of the Dark Ages were not baby killers. Baby killing/burning was essentially a thing that happened pre-Christ,the witch hunts that we are talking about was from about 600 to 900 AD and was initiated by the Church.

The Church thought that there actually was real witches (we know of course that in truth there are NO real witches) and they started killing. It was a VERY shameful thing the Church did, and hundreds of thousands of innocent people, mostly women, died.

And for the record there are no real witches, real witches defined as someone who has supernatural powers. NO one has EVER had supernatural powers in the Looooong history of mankind.

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