Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 169036 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#87415 Apr 23, 2013
Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>As I told your compadre Terry L about what Christ said in Matt 7:24-27, you will not feel so brainy one day
sure i will. your god and savior are a myth. there is no judgement from them, just from my actions as a human by my fellow humans, and only as long as this one life i have is here.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#87416 Apr 23, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Quotes from a book based on superstition are not too impressive. Would someone affect your attitude by quoting the Koran? How about Hindu Vedas?
the quran is the same mythical god she worships...
CBOW

East Berlin, PA

#87417 Apr 23, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>the quran is the same mythical god she worships...
The Koran is a god? Who knew?

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#87418 Apr 23, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>the quran is the same mythical god she worships...
Spam, clueless and nuts???

Somebody seems to be ignorant of Abrahamic religions.
bohart

Newport, TN

#87419 Apr 23, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>o
You are projecting again.
We believe in observable, testable, repeatable, natural events led to life which evolved.
You are the one who believes in magic spells.
When your Fawd or whatever his name is said "Hey! It's dark in here, someone turn on a light!" and there was light, that was by definition a spoken magic spell. You can't do it, I can't do it, no one else can do it except for your magical being.
If we find the answer to abiogenesis it will be a repeatable process. That is why experiments are still happening today, bringing us closer and closer to an answer.
There ARE NO observable , testable , and repeatable natural events that led to life. To say otherwise is to lie.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#87420 Apr 23, 2013
bohart wrote:
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There ARE NO observable , testable , and repeatable natural events that led to life. To say otherwise is to lie.
there are no gods that led to life either.

lots of evidence that points towards all the necessary parts being there for life...

for a god or any other way for life starting...not so much.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#87421 Apr 23, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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Spam, clueless and nuts???
Somebody seems to be ignorant of Abrahamic religions.
yes. the cult members. the cults hate it when their sheep gain knowledge.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#87422 Apr 23, 2013
CBOW wrote:
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The Koran is a god? Who knew?
there are no gods that any humans knows of...
Patriot

Antioch, TN

#87423 Apr 23, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Once again, the apostles did not write the Gospels.
There were not Greek speakers or writers. At best Luke is the Gospel as told by Luke. He did not write it himself. The same applies to the other Gospels.
Luke was a greek physician and Paul spoke fluent greek.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Level 7

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#87424 Apr 23, 2013
bohart wrote:
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There ARE NO observable , testable , and repeatable natural events that led to life. To say otherwise is to lie.
This is true. So far.

That does not constitute evidence for a deity.
bohart

Newport, TN

#87425 Apr 23, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>there are no gods that led to life either.
lots of evidence that points towards all the necessary parts being there for life...
for a god or any other way for life starting...not so much.
Oh Lord! necessary parts? thats never been the problem Wylie coyote.But you already know that ,your defense mechanisms have simply kicked in to safeguard your religion.
CBOW

East Berlin, PA

#87426 Apr 23, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>there are no gods that any humans knows of...
Only in that limited bubble you live in woody..........
bohart

Newport, TN

#87427 Apr 23, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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No, just because something is above the ability of your extremely limited brain does not mean it is magic. Of course even a light bulb seems like magic to you.
Your imaginary friend does magic, people do repeatable science.
So your theory of how life started hasn't been observed , hasn't been tested and certainly hasn't been repeated, therefore it isn't any different than claiming magic.The primordial sludge is a God for only the most deluded of fools
bohart

Newport, TN

#87428 Apr 23, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>This is true. So far.
That does not constitute evidence for a deity.
Wow! I'm impressed. You didn't respond with the usual denials and defense mechanisms. Could it possibly be you are somewhat objective?
Patriot

Antioch, TN

#87429 Apr 23, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
Once again, the apostles did not write the Gospels.
There were not Greek speakers or writers. At best Luke is the Gospel as told by Luke. He did not write it himself. The same applies to the other Gospels.
Acts 17 relates Paul teaching the greeks in Athens and the text of Chap 17 clearly shows he could both speak and read the Greek language.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Level 7

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#87430 Apr 23, 2013
bohart wrote:
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Wow! I'm impressed. You didn't respond with the usual denials and defense mechanisms. Could it possibly be you are somewhat objective?
I try.
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#87431 Apr 23, 2013
bohart wrote:
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Your a believer in magic, the magic of the primordial sludge, you are just simply too blinded by denial to realize it.
The laws of chemistry are not "magic."
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#87432 Apr 23, 2013
Mark wrote:
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Your Israeli sources are long recognized secular Jews and no friend of Biblical apologists.
So what? They don't need to be friends of you self-serving Jesus Freaks in order to do good history and good archaeology.
Mark wrote:
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They sweep away the Exodus account merely because they have trouble finding of what? a 40 year camping trip with a tent temple thousands of years ago?
The Sinai is not that big a place and hundreds of thousands of people living there would have left artifacts, tombs, buildings, etc. You don't go "camping" for 40 years with that many people without leaving any trace.

Do you SERIOUSLY think the mythical Israelite mob got up every morning, struck camp and shuffled along over the next horizon? For 40 YEARS? LOL!
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#87433 Apr 23, 2013
KJV wrote:
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So to answer your question… "How did Jesus die on Friday and rise on Sunday and is said to have been dead for 3 days?" He didn't die on Friday… being the Son of God, his divine spirit departed his human body while on the cross Wednesday afternoon, his earthly body was then placed in a tomb near sunset that same day. His spirit returned to his body at sunset on Saturday to resurrect as a glorified earthly body. His body was soon discovered missing from the tomb early Sunday morning by his followers.
Anyone with even passing knowledge of Bible history and criticism knows that the gospels differ on the day of Jesus' death and that this has LONG been known a s "problem" for the Protestant fundamentalist idea of an inerrant "Word of God" Bible.

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The great Catholic Bible Scholar Raymond Brown was explicit in his belief that Jesus was led of to be crucified at the "very hour" the Passover lambs were being offered in the Temple.

Brown has been described as “the premier Johannine scholar in the English-speaking world”.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_E._Brown

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http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows...

The Gospel of John

L. Michael White, Professor of Classics and Director of the Religious Studies Program University of Texas at Austin

Excerpts...

John's gospel is different from the other three in the New Testament. That fact has been recognized since the early church itself. Already by the year 200, John's gospel was called the spiritual gospel precisely because it told the story of Jesus in symbolic ways that differ sharply at times from the other three. For example, Jesus dies on a different day in John's gospel than in Matthew, Mark and Luke....

Whereas in the three synoptic gospels Jesus actually eats a passover meal before he dies, in John's gospel he doesn't. The last supper is actually eaten before the beginning of passover. So that the sequence of events leading up to the actual crucifixion are very different for John's gospel. And one has to look at it in say, why is the story so different? How do we account for these differences in terms of the way the story-telling developed? And the answer becomes fairly clear when we realize that Jesus has had the last supper a day before so that he's hanging on the cross during the day of preparation before the beginning of Passover.

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bohart

Newport, TN

#87434 Apr 23, 2013
Gillette wrote:
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The laws of chemistry are not "magic."
Please, elaborate about these laws of chemistry producing the first life?

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