Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 171932 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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#87332 Apr 22, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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That is called being smart. When others run out we will still have reserves.
Smart and intelligent, in addition.
Pure and impure are never the same.

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#87333 Apr 22, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>*helpless laughter*
In my youth, I could identify the county of oigin of a total stranger.
Sometimes the town.
You cannot be that friggin' stupid.
Irish, Welsh and Scottish are originally Celtic, why are you hiding your identity, Buddy?

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#87334 Apr 22, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>that is not what you stated previously.
why do you have to lie so much Chaz?
What are you talking about? Changing what? We are still on track, now answer the question posted to you.

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#87336 Apr 22, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>*helpless laughter*
In my youth, I could identify the county of oigin of a total stranger.
Sometimes the town.
You cannot be that friggin' stupid.
Please reply, but this time in English.
No one is perfect.

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#87337 Apr 22, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>"Celtic"?
You mean Goidelic, Brythonic, Gaulish, Breton?
Which Celtic?
Blistering halfwit.
Is Celtic strange to your hearing?

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#87338 Apr 22, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>So, English is not owned by England.
Concession noted.
Liar!
English belongs to the English( people of England).
KJV

United States

#87339 Apr 22, 2013
JM_Brazil wrote:
<quoted text>Inferring that there IS a spiderman?
Am I?

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#87340 Apr 22, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
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What makes you think that the US doesn't export oil? In fact in 2010, we exported more oil than we imported.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-29/u-s-...
http://www.indexmundi.com/united_states/oil_e...
Depending upon the global price of oil, and amount of domestic usage, sometimes it's more profitable to buy foreign oil, and export domestic oil, other times, vice versa.
Lets face reality, are your oils more marketable than that of Africa and Middle East?

“Rising”

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#87341 Apr 22, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Liar!
English belongs to the English( people of England).
Yes and stupidity belongs to you. I guess the French own all french kisses and french fries. Only Dutch people can go Dutch, Mexico owns all Mexican restaurants. The Spanish own a flu and a fly. Morse owns a code and the Scot's own free. Duck's own tape unless it's cheap tape then it belongs to Scotch. You don't have to guess who owns Brandy. I can only guess you used to live under London bridge, and when it fell , it hit you on your big ole doofus head.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#87342 Apr 22, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Lets face reality, are your oils more marketable than that of Africa and Middle East?
Yes. Lets DO face reality.

I provided evidence that the US in fact DOES export oil.

No twisting of the facts. We DO EXPORT OIL.

Deal with it.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#87343 Apr 22, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Lets face reality, are your oils more marketable than that of Africa and Middle East?
what does that have to do with the fact that you were absolutely, 100% wrong about the US using mostly african resources to develop our nation...

and yes, our oil is as marketable. check into the lawsuits oil companies are bringing against nigeria as their political and social turmoil is preventing the completion of contracted oil production...

what does the Near east have to do with African resources?
Anonymous

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#87345 Apr 22, 2013
USA will be the worlds biggest producer and exporter of oil and gas within ten years, USA has huge shale oil and gas reserves and they are being extracted in very large amounts, the price of oil in USA is two thirds lower than Europe, this shale oil revolution is a geopolitical game changer, America are now to be a massive exporter again, and will have energy independence, no more reliance on middle east, now countries will be reliant on cheap American oil and gas, shale oil and gas has changed everything, USA are now in a great position, and only they have the technology to extract it at marketable prices, thankfully they have sent engineers to Britain to help us get at our huge shale reserves too, as we have the fourth biggest on earth, much of all England is sitting on massive reserves, and its in England, not Scotland like the north sea oil LOL, or our crude oil in the falklands
Anonymous

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#87346 Apr 22, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
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Yes. Lets DO face reality.
I provided evidence that the US in fact DOES export oil.
No twisting of the facts. We DO EXPORT OIL.
Deal with it.
I can't believe some Americans don't know this, havnt you been paying attention to the shale oil revolution going on in your country, USA will soon be the biggest producer and exporter of oil AND gas, within ten years, I think it was actually closer to six years, that's when usa will take first place as the worlds top oil and gas producer and exporter. This has been big news in britain, don't you follow it, as USA is your country, I thought you would all be aware of such a large revolution happening in your country

“Rising”

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#87347 Apr 22, 2013
straa wrote:
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I can't believe some Americans don't know this, havnt you been paying attention to the shale oil revolution going on in your country, USA will soon be the biggest producer and exporter of oil AND gas, within ten years, I think it was actually closer to six years, that's when usa will take first place as the worlds top oil and gas producer and exporter. This has been big news in britain, don't you follow it, as USA is your country, I thought you would all be aware of such a large revolution happening in your country
The problem with shale oil is price. It requires lots of energy to extract, but the high note is when oil is depleted
it will still be there , but at a pricey price.
What we have tickets to is Canada's tar sands which are massive 1.7 trillion barrels and
both deep oil and oil that is in protected environments.

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Since: May 08

Orlando

#87348 Apr 22, 2013
straa wrote:
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I can't believe some Americans don't know this, havnt you been paying attention to the shale oil revolution going on in your country, USA will soon be the biggest producer and exporter of oil AND gas, within ten years, I think it was actually closer to six years, that's when usa will take first place as the worlds top oil and gas producer and exporter. This has been big news in britain, don't you follow it, as USA is your country, I thought you would all be aware of such a large revolution happening in your country
What makes you think I wasn't already aware of that?

I just hope that within the next decade, we can reduce our reliance on most uses of fossil fuels, and develop cleaner energies.

Besides, shale oil is environmentally disastrous. Fracking contaminates the groundwater forever. I'd personally rather have clean water than oil.
Mark

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#87349 Apr 22, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
Continued--
For Mark
See all of my words above here. A thing to consider is that we know the Bible describes people and some places accurately, but it also describes happenings that we KNOW for a fact are not true.
You write:
“"The reader may rest assured that nothing has been found [by archaeologists] to disturb a reasonable faith, and nothing has been discovered which can disprove a single theological doctrine. The Bible can stand for itself." - Dr. William F. Albright –“
Ah, good ol’ Dr. Albright. He was a kinda’ good archaeologist and a kinda’ good scientist. He had a serious problem though. He did not use the scientific method properly and he thereby contaminated most of his work.
In archaeology, or any other science, you DO NOT make the conclusion first and then try to find evidence to back you up. You DO NOT say,“OK we ‘know’ there was a flood so let’s see if we can find evidence to back it up.” Much of his work is under review. Look him up in Google.

I have seen the Dead Sea Scrolls and have followed the story for years.--end--
Thank you for this thoughtful and volumous reply. In actuality, the findings I mentioned - S&D, Zoar, Jericho, Ebla and (Ai, your mention) are all modern and post-date the quotes listed, so I don't see how the comments are out of date. Your Israeli sources are long recognized secular Jews and no friend of Biblical apologists. Their findings and summary dismissals of the Biblical accounts are based on absence of evidence rather than contrary evidence, pretty shaky and nothing to do with findings in the trenches when you look closely. You mentioned hard evidence? they have none.

They sweep away the Exodus account merely because they have trouble finding of what? a 40 year camping trip with a tent temple thousands of years ago? They discredit Scripture based on the mention of domesticated camels being used too early in the age - why?, if the Bible mentions them as domesticated is this not an authoritative account? No they say, because they can't find collaboration outside the Bible, so based on more non-evidence they claim its falsified! How arrogant! If that's not anti-Biblical bias I dont know what is. Dromedaries are also mentioned in the herds that Job lost,(3000) and that predates the Exodus. An inscription recently unearthed stating "The House of David" has thrown many of these skeptics off balance in recent days.

Gaps in the Egyptian side of history are very suspicious, many feel the fam. of the responsible leaders removed the account because they were embarrassed by it. As for Jericho, the recent findings of bread in the ovens doesn't fair well for the abandoned city story,(with the walls caved in).

There is encouraging and ongoing work going on at Ai. My statements concerning the S&D destruction are based on a film documentary I viewed with shock back in 2003 or so. Short run series.

This is not the place to debate this huge topic, but here again I show there is another side of this story in just a few words.

Mark

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Evolution is true.....

#87350 Apr 22, 2013
“I would challenge anyone here to think of a question upon which we once had a scientific answer, no matter how inadequate, but for which now the best answer is a religious one.”
–Sam Harris

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#87351 Apr 22, 2013
Mark wrote:
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Thank you for this thoughtful and volumous reply. In actuality, the findings I mentioned - S&D, Zoar, Jericho, Ebla and (Ai, your mention) are all modern and post-date the quotes listed, so I don't see how the comments are out of date. Your Israeli sources are long recognized secular Jews and no friend of Biblical apologists. Their findings and summary dismissals of the Biblical accounts are based on absence of evidence rather than contrary evidence, pretty shaky and nothing to do with findings in the trenches when you look closely. You mentioned hard evidence? they have none.
They sweep away the Exodus account merely because they have trouble finding of what? a 40 year camping trip with a tent temple thousands of years ago? They discredit Scripture based on the mention of domesticated camels being used too early in the age - why?, if the Bible mentions them as domesticated is this not an authoritative account? No they say, because they can't find collaboration outside the Bible, so based on more non-evidence they claim its falsified! How arrogant! If that's not anti-Biblical bias I dont know what is. Dromedaries are also mentioned in the herds that Job lost,(3000) and that predates the Exodus. An inscription recently unearthed stating "The House of David" has thrown many of these skeptics off balance in recent days.
Gaps in the Egyptian side of history are very suspicious, many feel the fam. of the responsible leaders removed the account because they were embarrassed by it. As for Jericho, the recent findings of bread in the ovens doesn't fair well for the abandoned city story,(with the walls caved in).
There is encouraging and ongoing work going on at Ai. My statements concerning the S&D destruction are based on a film documentary I viewed with shock back in 2003 or so. Short run series.
This is not the place to debate this huge topic, but here again I show there is another side of this story in just a few words.
Mark
Exodus is dismissed as exaggerated because most of the evidence in fact does conflict with the story.
The conquests were too far apart in time, the Egyptians never had hundreds of thousands or even tens of thousands of Jewish slaves.
The Egyptian accounts of Jewish kingdoms do not collaborate, the archeological evidence does not collaborate, the evidence shows Israel was formed by the Canaanites who rebelled against their rulers, not because the Israelite conquered them. The bible is a work of historical exaggeration and fiction mixed with mythology and racial political rhetoric and propaganda , I would call much of it the first use of spin journalism.
bohart

Newport, TN

#87352 Apr 22, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
“I would challenge anyone here to think of a question upon which we once had a scientific answer, no matter how inadequate, but for which now the best answer is a religious one.”
–Sam Harris
Sponatanous generation of life

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#87353 Apr 22, 2013
bohart wrote:
Sponatanous generation of life
The assembly of nonliving material into something that might be considered as living would hardly be considered spontaneous and could certainly not be explained by Magic.

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