Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 168973 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#85762 Apr 11, 2013
Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>My dear fellow read Christ's "narrative" in Luke 16:19-31.
Not interested in what you can regurgitate. Only interested in what you can demonstrate. Which is apparently not much:
Patriot wrote:
God is not limited to the same "restrictions" like we are possessed with.
Indeed. The Flying Spaghetti Monster reigns. RAMEN!
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#85763 Apr 11, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Delusion!
Dreaming again, Ducky.
You can't help it.(shrug)

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#85764 Apr 11, 2013
Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>They do have a chance, God does not want anyone to perish( 1 Tim 2:4 and 2 Pet 3:9) but each one of us have a choice. But we must repent unless we likewise perish Luke 13:3.Seems like 2 Thess 1:7-9 would be a wake up call for anyone.
Since God Himself lacks free will I think its a bit arrogant of you to assume you do.

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#85765 Apr 11, 2013
have free will, I mean.

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#85766 Apr 11, 2013
Patriot wrote:
Woodtick, nowhere does it say God will kill people who do not believe in him.
According to your silly myths, He already did, several times.

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#85767 Apr 11, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Christianity was and is founded by Jesus, he called his twelve disciples and apostles, that propagated the gospel of Christ.
Word games, yes yes.

The point the other poster was making in the first place that what YOU call Christianity, the form it took, was largely the design of Paul, not of the original Jesus. There may have been a Jesus who spouted Buddha and Socratic style platitudes and got into some trouble for that, but as for the miracles and resurrection etc... these stories were written long after the purported facts, and are unreliable and inconsistent, so just about everything you THINK you know about Jesus through the lens of this concoction called Christianity is questionable.

You have NO evidence. NO reliable witness accounts. Just the structure created most of all by Paul and a few others, decades later.

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#85768 Apr 11, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> No! You are wrong.
Still ducking the real question I asked you Charlie.

You have no answer, obviously.

A God who knows the future can have no Free Will, because He already knows every decision He will ever make forever and cannot change it one bit.

What makes you think you have free will? Merely the fact that unlike God, you are not sure of your own future choices? Does that make you more free than God Himself?

Come on, don't run away. Answer the questions.

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#85769 Apr 11, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> No! You are wrong.
IN other words, after being unable to provide any reliable sources for the existence of Jesus, let alone claims that he performed miracles and is really God on Earth...

...you cannot even provide any reliable evidence that the Romans fed Christians to the lions? Perhaps its just more "noble persecution" propaganda you guys use to inflate yourselves? The self gratifying notion that you are on the same team as people who would sit there serenely waiting for a lion to eat them, because their faith that heaven was just a quick meal away?

You know, I have never really questioned the notion before. I assumed that the lions really did get to feast on Christians. But now I question even that.

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#85770 Apr 11, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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I'm not lying, I leave that to you. Merely disagreeing with your baseless claims is not lying.
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Christianity had gradually grew in popularity over the centuries. It was inevitable that someone with political power would be Christian. One of those was managed to become emperor.
Then it swapped back.
Then it swapped back again.
Meaning either your first divine intervention wasn't good enough the first time so God needed to intervene again, or he only intervened once but it took a number of years before it finally took hold.
Then as we know, Rome eventually collapsed.
This is how weak you're making your god look.
I for one don't have a problem.(shrug)
No. This is not true. How did the persecuted Christians over powered the Roman power?

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#85771 Apr 11, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> To last or second paragraph, there is nothing too hard or difficult for God to do.
Ofcourse Jesus is the founder of the Christian faith, even Paul stated that in all his epistles.
Except change His mind.

If God is omniscient about the future, He can never do that.

God has no Free Will.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Evolution is true.....

#85772 Apr 11, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Nicely put, sir! Permission to steal bits, with attribution?
Although I usually am armed...
Go for it macumazahn

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#85773 Apr 11, 2013
Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>God is not limited to the same "restrictions" like we are possessed with.
Neither is Wyle E. Coyote
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#85774 Apr 11, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> No. This is not true. How did the persecuted Christians over powered the Roman power?
Constantine raised an Army and defeated Emperor Licinius in battle. Licinius surrendered.

Then Emperor Constantine hanged him a year later, breaking his promise to him that his life would be spared if he surrendered.

Onward Christian soldiers!

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Evolution is true.....

#85775 Apr 11, 2013
Tyler in Elsewhere wrote:
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Then you are astoundingly progressive for a creationist. However, it is indeed the creationist argument that Adam and Eve were "genetically perfect."
As I've heard it, the running hypothesis/delusion is that because of their perfect genes (presumably from being directly created by God, I suppose), they and their children were able to inbreed without any adverse effects. After the Fall, the genome started degrading, and has been 'devolving' into random noise ever since.
If that sounded like nonsense to you, then your BS radar might still be functioning.
The so-called Adam and Eve may have been genetically perfect, but they were also non-existent.

According to archaeology, paleoanthropology, and DNA science there was NO Adam and Eve as written in the Bible. To use them in explanations about Christianity and Christian dogma is bogus. They are total fiction.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Evolution is true.....

#85776 Apr 11, 2013
LupyLu wrote:
Romans 3: 28
So Jesus said to them,“Because of your unbelief; for assuredly, I say to you, if you have faith as a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain,‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move; and nothing will be impossible for you. Matthew 17: 20
+++
Thank IANS :D
Men of faith have repeatedly tried to move mountains and have NEVER been able to do so.

Jesus lied....

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#85777 Apr 11, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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They were only persecuted when they caused trouble. The reason Christianity grew in popularity was because they stopped pishing off the Romans. The Romans were fine with this because they were quite happy to incorporate new religions into the Roman pantheon when they conquered a new state. The only problem with the Christians was that they rejected Roman authority and refused to recognise the Emperor as such. That was why they were persecuted. Those that didn't go around shouting their mouths off were fine. And it is only because of people like that that Christianity was able to gradually grow in popularity. To the point where eventually a Roman Christian citizen grew up to be a politician. And being good at politics, managed to scheme his way to the top.
THAT's your 'divine intervention'. Politics.
And Christianity has mastered the art ever since.
BONG!
History has been rewritten( though FALSE).
Patriot

Antioch, TN

#85778 Apr 11, 2013
Elohim wrote:
<quoted text>I sure you do, however it is still an assertion by your flesh eating blood drinking death cult.
I am not part of the Roman Catholic church who teaches that
Elohim

Branford, CT

#85779 Apr 11, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text>BONG!
History has been rewritten( though FALSE).
BOING!!! That was the irony meter exploding! LMFAO!!!
Patriot

Antioch, TN

#85780 Apr 11, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
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Since God Himself lacks free will I think its a bit arrogant of you to assume you do.
Chimney is a good name for you, you just blow alot of smoke.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#85781 Apr 11, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text>BONG!
History has been rewritten( though FALSE).
So what you're saying is that it's all a big conspiracy even though you have no evidence because the big conspiracy wiped out all evidence?

So far your "divine interventions" have appeared to be less than impressive.

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