Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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The Dude

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Apr 9, 2013
 
KJV wrote:
Funny!
A group a people band together and profess something therefore it's true.
What a riot.
That didn't work in the old days and it doesn't work today my little monkey friend.
Actually when it comes to labels, I'm afraid that IS the case. Because they're arbitrary.

If we all decide that vehicles with four wheels are "apples" and green fruit that grown on trees are "cars" then what those people say IS true because that's what they decided. It's an arbitrary label.

Just as humans being apes is an arbitrary label, agreed upon centuries before you were born. Before Darwin was even. Humans are apes, period. Because that's what scientists have labelled those particular animals.
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By the way it's time to catch up:
The earth is not the center of the universe either.
Oh I know that. It was YOU boys who threatened to hang Galileo for opposing religious dogma which stated otherwise, remember?
The Dude

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KJV wrote:
Color of skin is not a mutation dude it's nothing more then a mere gene or two switching on or off.
Or extra DNA where there used to be none.
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Mutations 101: see Aqua man.
Fundie caricatures are irrelevant to reality.
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I do have SCIENTIFIC evidence.
GREAT! You're the first fundie ever to have this. In this case you should have no problem in explaining how Goddidit with magic passes the scientific method. Take it away, KJV:

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Dude you left your brains in the bathroom this morning.
You see by definition matter can't
Exist outside the universe.

(skipped previous cut & paste for space and redundancy)
By definition humans are apes. But you reject definitions for theological reasons, so what the heck are you now bringing up definitions up for anyway?(shrug)

Now, it is possible that our universe MAY be part of a larger much greater multi-verse. In which case there are lots of other universes potentially with matter in them. Unless you want your definition of universe to include the multi-verse as being **inside** that greater universe, in which case matter cannot exist outside the universe because there IS no outside. Because ALL EXISTENCE is INSIDE. This would also include your god, if any such being or beings exist. So if there is no outside it makes little sense to ask if matter can exist outside in the first place.
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FREE SERVANT wrote:
In remembering Margaret Thatcher today, she was a great world leader and a wonderful woman, in my view. May God bless her family.
She was a douche who was directly responsible for soaring unemployment rates because she didn't give a f ck about the working class. May the worms of the Earth find her more appetizing than the UK did.
The Dude

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Snevaeh legna wrote:
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She was quite a lady! RIP ...
Psalm 14:1 KJV
King James Version
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt , they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
'God's Warrior Angel'
According to your own book there is no-one more evil than your god.
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The Dude wrote:
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She was a douche who was directly responsible for soaring unemployment rates because she didn't give a f ck about the working class. May the worms of the Earth find her more appetizing than the UK did.
Wow man! She must have been hard on people who were willing to totally discard traditional values or something, huh?
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Our lord and saviour is the final judge of history and I believe he will smile upon those leaders who did not distort or corrupt their Christian nations from their original course. True leaders should never give into any persons who want to promote something regarded as abnormal or unacceptable from what was first rightly intended.

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Our lord and saviour is the final judge of history and I believe he will smile upon those leaders who did not distort or corrupt their Christian nations from their original course. True leaders should never give into any persons who want to promote something regarded as abnormal or unacceptable from what was first rightly intended.
so true leaders should have followed your god's lead and kept slavery?

you see...you keep forgetting that, first, your bible is a myth. and second, it is a piss-poor moral guide...
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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>so true leaders should have followed your god's lead and kept slavery?
you see...you keep forgetting that, first, your bible is a myth. and second, it is a piss-poor moral guide...
The English people done away with slavery many years before our geat president Lincoln did. Many Christians see slavery as wrong.

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FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>The English people done away with slavery many years before our geat president Lincoln did. Many Christians see slavery as wrong.
so those great leaders did not follow your cult's god...good thing.

so yur p[revious statement about good leaders following your god's teachings was entirely false. good to know.(i already knew it...)

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FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>The English people done away with slavery many years before our geat president Lincoln did. Many Christians see slavery as wrong.
Is thirty years "many"?

“Pissing people off since 1949”

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FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>The English people done away with slavery many years before our geat president Lincoln did. Many Christians see slavery as wrong.
Not so many years:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_Abolitio...
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Subduction Zone wrote:
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Is thirty years "many"?
In those days, YES...
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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>so those great leaders did not follow your cult's god...good thing.
so yur p[revious statement about good leaders following your god's teachings was entirely false. good to know.(i already knew it...)
Jesus Christ came to set all men free.

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Elohim wrote:
<quoted text>As expected you have no idea what the word means.
Likewise.

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The Dude wrote:
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Why, yes they did. You are not aware of this because you are ignorant of history.
Then you are a liar.

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superwilly wrote:
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I was talking about character! The solopsism, vanity, extreme self centeredness of scientists. One dare ever question their magnificence. Get a scientist to say "I'm wrong" about anything? FAT CHANCE!
Darwin was so impressed with himself that he would have been hard pressed to even to even think there was another human being of his self estimated magnitude on the face of the planet!
Yeah...becuase they study, focus and dedicate their lives for PROGRESS and advancement, not for some twit who knows ZILCH to make some smug SUnday school assertion...please, tell what part of any religion has been tossed out or retaught by MODERNIZING whatever catechismic crap your spouting off about...all relgion does is act like they never say things which have become silly to even utter, like say WHO controls the sun, or WHO controls the planets...the pure inability to self-correct, even be open to it, is relgious dogma's failure...epic failure...science is happy to REVISE and CORRECT, becuase we know it is FOR PROGRESS, not static dogmatic crap...
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Ronald Reagan and Mrs Thatcher were directly responsible for bringing liberty to many people throughout the world. The truth can be denied and many people can believe otherwise, but what is so will always be.
buckwheat

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Thomas Robertson wrote:
I've been off this forum for a while.
What do you folks say about Westboro Baptist?
Are the Westboro Baptists not true Christians?
Or does God really hate everybody that the Westboro Baptists hate?
Read all of the posts made by all of the different christians and you will have your answer. god hates EVERYBODY.

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FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>Jesus Christ came to set all men free.
the god that condoned slavery came back to say he was wrong? kinda shoots a whole in christian dogma, doesn't it? and of course, jesus wasn't a god, he was just a human used by people after his death for their political purposes.

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FREE SERVANT wrote:
Ronald Reagan and Mrs Thatcher were directly responsible for bringing liberty to many people throughout the world. The truth can be denied and many people can believe otherwise, but what is so will always be.
how were they directly responsible for that?

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