Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 223384 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#83492 Mar 28, 2013
Infinite Force wrote:
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I'm not a zealot, I think outside of the box when it comes to the origin of species. I am not religious either. Just because I accept a creator(s) when it comes to the origin of species does not mean I am a religous zealot. I have yet determined the origin of species true origin on planet earth, but I have narrowed it down to two possible answers based on the biological species term. So my findings are based in the realms of science because my method of seeking for the truth is based on the evidence I observe in nature.
And which planet did the aliens take you to on your last trip? Must have been pretty far since you've been gone a while.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#83493 Mar 28, 2013
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>How many is that now?
Not sure, but now I'm thinking Chuck owes me more than just that 500.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Level 9

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#83494 Mar 28, 2013
Mark wrote:
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You mean axis movement?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctic_Penins...
Current wiki mentions a "global climate change" not that it moved in axis. Fits with the Alaska/Siberia warm climate and such going on at the same time I think. Mentions cont. drift.
I have heard there are buried palm trees and other warm weather plants in Antarctica.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#83495 Mar 28, 2013
Mark wrote:
They have never found any possible mechanism in the cell to manufacture new data to the DNA.
Sure they have.

http://www.topix.com/forum/tech/TCTDUMIJ55H2B...

You just didn't know about it because you're an ignorant liar who doesn't give a f ck about science while you sit their hypocritically typing away on your computer while ignoring the 9th Commandment.(shrug)
Mark wrote:
Mindless mutations don't self-think well. The chemical write heads are not there, the processes don't exist. The cell is a closed system with well defined boundaries, the first of which is reproduction.
Simply because parental traits are variables (a special combination of convergence allowed in one sector of the DNA) exist, that's not evolution.
Sorry bub, but you're plain wrong. You are born with just under 50% of your genome from each of your parents, plus around 125 to 175 mutations which your parents do NOT have. That's new genetic information, bucko.

If this was not the case with your good self then I suggest you confer with our old buddy Infinite Force and ask him which of the aliens were responsible for your genetic makeup, because it isn't human.
Mark wrote:
In fact, this mechanism points to a creative Designer that allows unique trait's of all kinds to pass to our progeny, without fault.(In my world we call that a blessing). Otherwise, we would be seeing deformity everywhere. Heavens, we have all this fantastic and perfect reproduction going on all around us every minute, correct?
There was a baby born last week with its internal organs on the outside.

So you tell us.(shrug)
Mark wrote:
At birth, a perfectly orchestrated sequence of physical events must occur in the infant's body or they (and we) would not survive outside our mother. My challenge to you folk who believe in all this mindless, self-directed, environmentally influenced life-by-accident-and-chance stuff is to explain this transition to us less informed how this all came about.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution#Mechan...

So what's the "scientific theory" of creationism?
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#83496 Mar 28, 2013
Infinite Force wrote:
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The species term you are referring to is un-provable or verifiable by the biological species term I use which is the foundation to my reasoning when I speak of fixed species for the orign of species. Similarity in sheleton structure can be interpreted as common design by the creator(s).
Except there's zero evidence of design. You have no designer, no mechanisms, and no scientific predictions on why we don't see other examples of common designs that do not fit with nested hierarchies.

Centaurs? Common design.

Pegasus? Common design.

Sphinx?

Pigs with compound eyes? Common design.

Why don't we see any of these? All are possible under common design.

What is the likelihood of finding a fossil with feathers and three middle-ear bones?
Infinite Force wrote:
In other words, we both can assume using any species term except the biological species term I am using as the basis to my fixed species concept.
Your terms are irrelevant.
Infinite Force wrote:
I don't base my conclusions off of assunptions.
Of course you do. You have assumed design based on zero evidence.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#83497 Mar 28, 2013
Infinite Force wrote:
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Biological / reproductive species: Two organisms that are able to reproduce naturally to produce fertile offspring of both sexes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species
This does not prevent life from changing over time. In fact that is precisely what we observe.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#83498 Mar 28, 2013
Mark wrote:
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"I an" Kit?
My excuse is that "The Dude" told me I was a mutant, I told my wife that and I landed on the couch. So I had nothing else to do but write you folks @ 3am..
At least you can have the piece of mind that no reproductions of me will come along if this keeps up..
Well I for one am glad you are not cloned.

Uh, Curtis? Just checking, your pals didn't clone this guy, did they? By FSM I hope not.

“Resistance Is Futile”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#83499 Mar 28, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Sorry, but the case has passed not only the courts but plenty of scientific testing. I would say that you SHOULD know this, since I've posted the linky demonstrating this for you many times now.
But then we both know you've never read it and couldn't understand it even if you did.(shrug)
That's why you just posted a linky which still supported evolution rather than putting it in doubt. Oh well.
And I'm sure that a governmental court that supports science would be totally impartial and unbias...lol

You haven't a clue.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#83500 Mar 28, 2013
Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>Moses was mediator between God and Israel back in his day.Gal 3:19,Deut 5:5,33:2 Acts 7:53. I have contradicted nothing
Of course you did. You said you worshipped God and didn't idolize the Bible, then in the same sentence claimed the Bible was the "Word of God". We have long since established that it was written by ancient superstitious people's who didn't get out much past their little corner of the Middle East which helps explain some of their scientific inaccuracies.

You uh, HAVE been keeping up with this thread, yes?
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#83501 Mar 28, 2013
Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>I CHALLENGE YOU TO SHOW ME AND EVERYONE ON THIS THREAD WHERE MOSES OWNED EVEN 1 SLAVE. See if your behind can cover the check your yapper wrote.
Who says Moses owned a slave? He might have, I don't recall. What YOU said was that the Bible (which apparently you've never even read) did NOT endorse slavery and we pointed to numerous scriptural passages demonstrating otherwise. Which means either you were plain wrong (as most fundies are) or were LYING to us, once again flagrantly ignoring the 9th Commandment which you claim was written by God Himself. This was then followed by CBOW copy-pasting some rather distasteful apologetics from some idiotic fundie site attempting to rationalize slavery.

You uh, HAVE been keeping up with this thread, yes?
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#83502 Mar 28, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
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I have heard there are buried palm trees and other warm weather plants in Antarctica.
But no velociraptors and humans buried together in Antarctica. Strange that.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#83503 Mar 28, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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And I'm sure that a governmental court that supports science would be totally impartial and unbias...lol
You haven't a clue.
Sure, they'd just fund science that you don't like for centuries without getting any scientific results from it just for the sake of the big massive evil worldwide atheist Darwinist evolutionist time-travelling conspiracy. Your final sentence there is particularly ironic.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Level 7

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#83504 Mar 28, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
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I have heard there are buried palm trees and other warm weather plants in Antarctica.
Yah.

http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/08/03/from-leaf...

“Resistance Is Futile”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#83505 Mar 28, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
And again, another propagated science mis-conception. No mention of continental drift?

"Some 200 million years ago, Antarctic continental crust was joined with South American, African, Indian, and Australian continental crust making up a large southern land mass known as Gondwana (the southern part of the supercontinent called Pangea). After this time, Gondwana slowly split apart to create Antarctica as a separate continent, and Antarctica has gradually moved away from the other southern continents towards its present polar position."

"Political" science at it's finest. lol

“Resistance Is Futile”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#83506 Mar 28, 2013
bohart

White Pine, TN

#83507 Mar 28, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Already addressed. But it appears you didn't understand what was said. I suppose I was expecting too much since you make Bo look like a genius.
Hey Dude! quick, your syphillis monkey is on the keyboard again, he keeps repeating the same old shit,...or is that just you? Its so hard to tell the difference.

“Resistance Is Futile”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#83508 Mar 28, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Sure, they'd just fund science that you don't like for centuries without getting any scientific results from it just for the sake of the big massive evil worldwide atheist Darwinist evolutionist time-travelling conspiracy. Your final sentence there is particularly ironic.
Yea I know, and Columbus discovered America.lol
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#83509 Mar 28, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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And again, another propagated science mis-conception.
So is your computer. Oh wait, you're a hypocrite.(shrug)

Typical fundie.

Level 6

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#83510 Mar 28, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
And again, another propagated science mis-conception. No mention of continental drift?
"Some 200 million years ago, Antarctic continental crust was joined with South American, African, Indian, and Australian continental crust making up a large southern land mass known as Gondwana (the southern part of the supercontinent called Pangea). After this time, Gondwana slowly split apart to create Antarctica as a separate continent, and Antarctica has gradually moved away from the other southern continents towards its present polar position."
"Political" science at it's finest. lol
Yes. The posited connection of South America, Antarctica, India, and Australia, was a political ploy connived in conjunction with scientists and the UN by the Secret One World Government.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#83511 Mar 28, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
And again, another propagated science mis-conception. No mention of continental drift?
"Some 200 million years ago, Antarctic continental crust was joined with South American, African, Indian, and Australian continental crust making up a large southern land mass known as Gondwana (the southern part of the supercontinent called Pangea). After this time, Gondwana slowly split apart to create Antarctica as a separate continent, and Antarctica has gradually moved away from the other southern continents towards its present polar position."
"Political" science at it's finest. lol
i would imagine they thought anyone past the thrid grade understood that...

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