Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Mar 16, 2013
 
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Yes and how they have been discovered still in soft tissue. On top of that they were able to dissect an eye and found it very complex, they (the trilobite) could even correct for underwater abbaration (shift defraction), what an accident!! Where are the transisional forms!
they have soft tissue of a trilobyte? who has this?

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Exactly. It is easier for any individual to accept these claims than to actually debate against it with logic and real science facts. They have it much easier than we do. lol
it's easier to accept false claims? why? I mean, I know you do it all the time but why is it easier?
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Considering the fact you have to ignore everything I said I maintain my stance that you're just another typical creationist liar for Jesus, consistent inline with the scientific theory of creationists.
If you understood how scientific theories work then what you require is to come up with a better theory than dark matter. It is POSSIBLE that dark matter theory is wrong. But the fact is it works.
Do you have an alternative that's capable of doing the same job but better?
Or are you still sticking to your alternative which is the complete and total anti-thesis of science while still pretending to claim that science you disagree with for theological reasons is unscientific?
I would suppose you can call the scientists at the FERME lab and argue with them. I have had my hands on the rocks and fossils and feel perfectly secure. Besides both my college geo profs converted to ID and a catastrophic geo model rather than the model as taught in the text books. It was alot of things but paleomagnetic data (earths magnetic field proven to have shifts multiple times in magma fields in hours), 10ft dia redwoods fossilized at the south pole and fruit trees found frozen in siberia helped. One had 25 years on his PHD working on delta sediments and with a challenge or two from me admitted there is less than 7K worth of these sediments in the worlds major river deltas.

The massive fossil beds with layers of creatures in no order, some over a mie thick, the fact that most all are in turbidites (high speed underwater mud flows,come out and look at the Utah Natl Dino monument) and jumbled with clams and fish pushed them over. The Lewis range in Montana has the textbook geologic columb turned upside down. The evos attempted to explain this 50 mile range away but finally gave up and just pulled it from the text books, "to complicated for undergrads to understand" they said, just like the world-wide "Great Uncomformity". The Grand canyon is the same, its give up and go home for uniformists and fair game for creation/flood model folks. Sorry if these truths are upsetting to you but as we say "the rocks don't lie" and neither do i. M

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Mar 16, 2013
 
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lol. really, um no thanks.
Yeah, this morning they were in the top banner ad, and the upper right corner ad.

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That's what I thought, no proof. Your opinion is yours. I'm done waiting. Nice try though!
let's start with the creation myth. proven your god couldnt even tell that story right. page one first esentences...
next sentences. humans did not come from two genetically identical beings.

need any more?\

your cult lied ot you aover and over again...
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<quoted text>No0one in their right mind thinks humans have been on Earth for 3 bnillion years! you don't have the foggiest idea of what your are talking about, do you?
let me go make some popcorn before you post more silly shit!...
The Dude was asserting that "life on earth" was around for 3 bill.n not me

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Yeah, this morning they were in the top banner ad, and the upper right corner ad.
I have clicked on some ads here but what's the point of knowing how much neanderthal genes you have? Did you find out yours? lol

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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>they have soft tissue of a trilobyte? who has this?
Wow. Now we're coming to an agreement by asking the same question. finally...

look up Phacops rana bug-like eyes or schizocroal eye. lol

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The Dude was asserting that "life on earth" was around for 3 bill.n not me
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Not human life....the mini stroke is getting worse...serious dude, get it checked!
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<quoted text>they have soft tissue of a trilobyte? who has this?
i will get it for you. www.icr.org may have access in their site, good luck. M

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Math is pretty truthful. If you take 2 people and extend out the most conservative pop. growth model for 1 mill years you would have 10X26th power of inhabitants on the earth. The entire universe could not contain the bones of their ancestors. We have a difference in perspective for sure. One may beleive life has been here 3 bill years, but many other uniform chronometers based on logic and math don't. Ocean sediment accumulation on the sea floor and river delta's are another big one they don't publish or want folks to know about. I could go on but that is not the point, you have a belief system that is yours. My experiance is that evolutionists go to great efforts to be "accepted" and enjoy their "priest like" status. This is why they won't debate anymore, it can get very embarrassing in public to defend these matters when the other party knows their stuff.
Mark the question (there's actually not one except to you) of human population has been figured out for many decades, and it doesn't involved the Bible or religion in any way at all.

Humans (Homo-sapiens) have only been on earth for around 200,000 years....not Billions of years. Our predecessors such as: Homo-neanderthalensis, Homo-heidelbergensis, Homo-erectus, Homo-habilis, etc, etc., have only been around for about 4 to 6 Million years...some less than that.

The reason the big name atheists don't debate the Creatards much anymore is they keep using the same old crap arguments.

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I would suppose you can call the scientists at the FERME lab and argue with them. I have had my hands on the rocks and fossils and feel perfectly secure. Besides both my college geo profs converted to ID and a catastrophic geo model rather than the model as taught in the text books. It was alot of things but paleomagnetic data (earths magnetic field proven to have shifts multiple times in magma fields in hours), 10ft dia redwoods fossilized at the south pole and fruit trees found frozen in siberia helped. One had 25 years on his PHD working on delta sediments and with a challenge or two from me admitted there is less than 7K worth of these sediments in the worlds major river deltas.
The massive fossil beds with layers of creatures in no order, some over a mie thick, the fact that most all are in turbidites (high speed underwater mud flows,come out and look at the Utah Natl Dino monument) and jumbled with clams and fish pushed them over. The Lewis range in Montana has the textbook geologic columb turned upside down. The evos attempted to explain this 50 mile range away but finally gave up and just pulled it from the text books, "to complicated for undergrads to understand" they said, just like the world-wide "Great Uncomformity". The Grand canyon is the same, its give up and go home for uniformists and fair game for creation/flood model folks. Sorry if these truths are upsetting to you but as we say "the rocks don't lie" and neither do i. M
Wow! someone fed you a load of shit and you sucked it up like a hoover!

You do realize 99.99% of geologists do not agree with anything you stated? why do you think that is?

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I would suppose you can call the scientists at the FERME lab and argue with them. I have had my hands on the rocks and fossils and feel perfectly secure. Besides both my college geo profs converted to ID and a catastrophic geo model rather than the model as taught in the text books. It was alot of things but paleomagnetic data (earths magnetic field proven to have shifts multiple times in magma fields in hours), 10ft dia redwoods fossilized at the south pole and fruit trees found frozen in siberia helped. One had 25 years on his PHD working on delta sediments and with a challenge or two from me admitted there is less than 7K worth of these sediments in the worlds major river deltas.
The massive fossil beds with layers of creatures in no order, some over a mie thick, the fact that most all are in turbidites (high speed underwater mud flows,come out and look at the Utah Natl Dino monument) and jumbled with clams and fish pushed them over. The Lewis range in Montana has the textbook geologic columb turned upside down. The evos attempted to explain this 50 mile range away but finally gave up and just pulled it from the text books, "to complicated for undergrads to understand" they said, just like the world-wide "Great Uncomformity". The Grand canyon is the same, its give up and go home for uniformists and fair game for creation/flood model folks. Sorry if these truths are upsetting to you but as we say "the rocks don't lie" and neither do i. M
So many errors in one post!

I have never heard of the FERME lab. Could you tell us where it is and what they do?

And please, you cannot find a real college where geology professors supposedly converted to creatardism. That is another obvious lie.

I can guarantee you that no "10 foot redwoods" have been found at the south pole. Perhaps on the coasts of Antarctica, but no one has dug down through the huge layer of ice at the South Pole to look at the fossils there.

Turbidites are relatively rare and they are not well known for their fossils.

Just about every claim in your post is another lie.

Please post links to support your stories. Otherwise I will merely point out that you are lying.

Claims presented without evidence can be denied without evidence.

In other words, without evidence you lose.

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The Dude was asserting that "life on earth" was around for 3 bill.n not me
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You really are an uneducated idiot and want everybody to know it.

For the first billion or two years all life on Earth was mostly unicellular. There were colonies of algae that formed stromatolites, but that is not really multicelluar life.

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I have clicked on some ads here but what's the point of knowing how much neanderthal genes you have? Did you find out yours? lol
No, you have to send your DNA sample (and money) in to them. I'm waiting till they get down to about 25-50 dollars for the test before I do it.

They also type your blood DNA and you can find out what line you descended from in Africa.

I sound like an advertisement for the company...I'll shut up now..:-)

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<quoted text>Not human life....the mini stroke is getting worse...serious dude, get it checked!
You have a knack for putting words in people's mouth. Mark never said Humans he said Life. No wonder you can't get your facts straight.

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The Dude was asserting that "life on earth" was around for 3 bill.n not me
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so again, who has these soft tissue parts from trilobytes as you stated?

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Mar 16, 2013
 
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>hardly. your god myth is a proven lie. many tmes over.

What would it matter to you? you stated last year you weren't a christian...(pffft!)
Untrue I stated I was not religious.
I am a Christians. Shake out the Cobb webs.

If you have proof that there is no God you would be rich beyond belief!
The first person in history to look out
Side of our universe.

Foolish atheist.

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Cybele wrote:
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You have a knack for putting words in people's mouth. Mark never said Humans he said Life. No wonder you can't get your facts straight.
it's what he meant, I'd bet... most life then didn't have bones, as he talked about...

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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Wow! someone fed you a load of shit and you sucked it up like a hoover!
You do realize 99.99% of geologists do not agree with anything you stated? why do you think that is?
We have known for quite awhile that there have been pole-shifts in the earths history. This had nothing to do with the supposed Noachian flood.

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