Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 201459 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#80786 Mar 14, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
Truth - Merriam-Webster Dictionary
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/truth
a (1): the state of being the case : fact (2): the body of real things, events, and facts : actuality...
The Dude wrote:
"truth is meaningless in science"...finally something that we can agree on.
so what is the truth about gravity? does it follow the standard model or the quantum model?

please tell us about the truth of one of our most basic parts of life...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#80787 Mar 14, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
just because your comprehension is lacking, only means that it makes no since to you, not everybody.
my comprehension is fine. your blending of ID into evolution is what is scary...

at least I made the humane attempt to keep you from looking more foolish...the least I could do...

“what we think we become”

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Since: Aug 11

above and beyond

#80788 Mar 14, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
just because your comprehension is lacking, only means that it makes no since to you, not everybody.
oh you mean sins

cents, I have two
sins, I have more

lol

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#80789 Mar 14, 2013
Cybele wrote:
<quoted text>
oh you mean sins
cents, I have two
sins, I have more
lol
possibly. most people have at least two bits...but selling yourself short is what you do best...

“what we think we become”

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Since: Aug 11

above and beyond

#80790 Mar 14, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>

Not yet since you have yet to explain yourself. So I doubt you're using the terminology correctly.
Okay so here's an analogy. Let's pretend God was a computer programmer and he created the genetic code for all living things.

He writes a program 1 and produces an output 1
He writes a program 2 and produces an output 2
And so on...

If you know the genetic code, it is represented with codes A C T G arranged in different sequence, that's the idea of permutation.

Here's and example of Program:

#NoEnv
StringCaseSense On

o := str := "Hello"

Loop
{
str := perm_next(str)
If !str
{
MsgBox % clipboard := o
break
}
o.= "`n" . str
}

perm_Next(str){
p := 0, sLen := StrLen(str)
Loop % sLen
{
If A_Index=1
continue
t := SubStr(str, sLen+1-A_Index, 1)
n := SubStr(str, sLen+2-A_Index, 1)
If ( t < n )
{
p := sLen+1-A_Index, pC := SubStr(str, p, 1)
break
}
}
If !p
return false
Loop
{
t := SubStr(str, sLen+1-A_Index, 1)
If ( t > pC )
{
n := sLen+1-A_Index, nC := SubStr(str, n, 1)
break
}
}
return SubStr(str, 1, p-1). nC . Reverse(SubStr(str, p+1, n-p-1). pC . SubStr(str, n+1))
}

Reverse(s){
Loop Parse, s
o := A_LoopField o
return o
}

And this will be the output of that program:

Hello
Helol
Heoll
Hlelo
Hleol
Hlleo
Hlloe
Hloel
Hlole
Hoell
Holel
Holle
eHllo
eHlol
eHoll
elHlo
elHol
ellHo
elloH
eloHl
elolH
eoHll
eolHl
eollH
lHelo
lHeol
lHleo
lHloe
lHoel
lHole
leHlo
leHol
lelHo
leloH
leoHl
leolH
llHeo
llHoe
lleHo
lleoH
lloHe
lloeH
loHel
loHle
loeHl
loelH
lolHe
loleH
oHell
oHlel
oHlle
oeHll
oelHl
oellH
olHel
olHle
oleHl
olelH
ollHe
olleH

get it yet???

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#80791 Mar 14, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>so what is the truth about gravity? does it follow the standard model or the quantum model?
please tell us about the truth of one of our most basic parts of life...
you guys claim to to know science?...but now you ask me to explain gravity to you?...lol

pleeeese.

“what we think we become”

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Since: Aug 11

above and beyond

#80792 Mar 14, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>possibly. most people have at least two bits...but selling yourself short is what you do best...
shuddup rosy

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#80793 Mar 14, 2013
Cybele wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay so here's an analogy. Let's pretend God was a computer programmer and he created the genetic code for all living things.
He writes a program 1 and produces an output 1
He writes a program 2 and produces an output 2
And so on...
If you know the genetic code, it is represented with codes A C T G arranged in different sequence, that's the idea of permutation.
Here's and example of Program:
#NoEnv
StringCaseSense On
o := str := "Hello"
Loop
{
str := perm_next(str)
If !str
{
MsgBox % clipboard := o
break
}
o.= "`n" . str
}
perm_Next(str){
p := 0, sLen := StrLen(str)
Loop % sLen
{
If A_Index=1
continue
t := SubStr(str, sLen+1-A_Index, 1)
n := SubStr(str, sLen+2-A_Index, 1)
If ( t < n )
{
p := sLen+1-A_Index, pC := SubStr(str, p, 1)
break
}
}
If !p
return false
Loop
{
t := SubStr(str, sLen+1-A_Index, 1)
If ( t > pC )
{
n := sLen+1-A_Index, nC := SubStr(str, n, 1)
break
}
}
return SubStr(str, 1, p-1). nC . Reverse(SubStr(str, p+1, n-p-1). pC . SubStr(str, n+1))
}
Reverse(s){
Loop Parse, s
o := A_LoopField o
return o
}
And this will be the output of that program:
Hello
Helol
Heoll
Hlelo
Hleol
Hlleo
Hlloe
Hloel
Hlole
Hoell
Holel
Holle
eHllo
eHlol
eHoll
elHlo
elHol
ellHo
elloH
eloHl
elolH
eoHll
eolHl
eollH
lHelo
lHeol
lHleo
lHloe
lHoel
lHole
leHlo
leHol
lelHo
leloH
leoHl
leolH
llHeo
llHoe
lleHo
lleoH
lloHe
lloeH
loHel
loHle
loeHl
loelH
lolHe
loleH
oHell
oHlel
oHlle
oeHll
oelHl
oellH
olHel
olHle
oleHl
olelH
ollHe
olleH
get it yet???
you lost rational people at the "let's pretend god" part...

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#80794 Mar 14, 2013
23 if 7 = A then goto 1 else 10

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#80795 Mar 14, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
you guys claim to to know science?...but now you ask me to explain gravity to you?...lol
pleeeese.
No, you really have a hard time with very, very simple concepts, don't you?

i am asking you, the one who claims to know about 'truth' to tell me the 'truth' about gravity...

please, dear, do try to keep up. i fear all of this talk is going right over your pretty little head...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#80796 Mar 14, 2013
Cybele wrote:
<quoted text>
shuddup rosy
yeah, that's about two cents worth...

“what we think we become”

Level 5

Since: Aug 11

above and beyond

#80797 Mar 14, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>you lost rational people at the "let's pretend god" part...
whatever. I don't care. I bet you couldn't even write a simple HTML code to change your font. meh

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Level 7

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#80798 Mar 14, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Like Highlander!
If only. That would have been a great way for that idiot Benny to go, eh?
They'd have a hell of a time replacing all that stained glass, though.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#80799 Mar 14, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>No, you really have a hard time with very, very simple concepts, don't you?
i am asking you, the one who claims to know about 'truth' to tell me the 'truth' about gravity...
please, dear, do try to keep up. i fear all of this talk is going right over your pretty little head...
if your lacking in the understanding of the principles of gravity, I suggest you google it.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Level 7

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#80800 Mar 14, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Wow, is that an ignorant statement. did you ever get past the third grade?
sexual reproduction adds huge amounts of information to the gene pool, allowing for greater evolution.
you will notice that in most swpecies, the females (the ones that lay and protect the eggs, are comouflaged while the males are bright to attract the females to pass their genes on. beyond this brief introduction into the world of reproduction, there are many examples of camouflage used where thter are many predators,and bright colors usede where there are fewer for that species.
why do you continually try to debunk things you clearly have not the most basic understanding of?
As to the bright colours, there are two other categories: "warning" colours, such as are exhibited by many toxic/venomous species; and imitations of the same by innocuous species.

Think coral snakes and king snakes.

Fascinatin' stuff.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#80801 Mar 14, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
if your lacking in the understanding of the principles of gravity, I suggest you google it.
i can see why you'd run from the question...

wouldn't it be more honest to say you were wrong about your "truth" statement?

or you can keep doging the question about the 'truth' of gravity...

i really did warn you about making a fool of yourself....don't say i didn't...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#80802 Mar 14, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>As to the bright colours, there are two other categories: "warning" colours, such as are exhibited by many toxic/venomous species; and imitations of the same by innocuous species.
Think coral snakes and king snakes.
Fascinatin' stuff.
but, apparantly, it makes no sense to xxxooxxx....

just the rest of the planet.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#80803 Mar 14, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>What about cuttlefish and octopuses?
Ah, but they aren't particularly "choosing" still, considering it is the result of instinctual behavior, that removes the choice. They cannot one day say "I want to be purple" and become purple the entire day, there has to be an event and environmental stimulation for them to result in such a color. ;)

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#80804 Mar 14, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>As to the bright colours, there are two other categories: "warning" colours, such as are exhibited by many toxic/venomous species; and imitations of the same by innocuous species.
Think coral snakes and king snakes.
Fascinatin' stuff.
Yet there are snakes just as colorful, but are not poisonous at all.

Mimicking is an assumption with no proof.



“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#80805 Mar 14, 2013
Cybele wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay so here's an analogy. Let's pretend God was a computer programmer and he created the genetic code for all living things.
He writes a program 1 and produces an output 1
He writes a program 2 and produces an output 2
And so on...
If you know the genetic code, it is represented with codes A C T G arranged in different sequence, that's the idea of permutation.
Here's and example of Program:
#NoEnv
StringCaseSense On
......
Nice linguine, but it is irrelevant to genetics. Not to mention that the permutations are rigid in that particular script, not dynamic, and thus making the entire thing completely different than DNA. It also doesn't respond to input, nor changes in the environment, something that coders have been working to actually accomplish for a great many years, and the only real reason I want to develop a video game using a true AI system, ironically. The best analogy to evolution is actually a classic game of dice, called Yahtzee. You roll the dice, keeping the ones you, the ones the benefit you, then on the next generation you reroll the other dice, and on ... and on ... however, with evolution the round never ends, so you ultimately get a Yahtzee.

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