Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 216739 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#79851 Mar 9, 2013
superwilly wrote:
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Ok, following your reasoning, since there are one or two points (and there are more!) that Darwin was wrong on (ie racism, totally linear evolution), then you should just call his whole theory into question, correct?
The theory of evolution is always in question. As is the theory of gravity. And the germ theory of disease. That is why we have scientific researchers in all these fields all over the world. Otherwise research would have stopped years ago and the labs would all be gathering dust. Evolution has progressed in the 150 years since Darwin, however his basic premise of common ancestry remains, although undoubtedly the theory has grown in complexity since the 19th century.

As for Darwin on race, we can just go back to page one of this ver thread. Which of these are wrong:

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/T9Q...

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The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#79852 Mar 9, 2013
His-truth wrote:
intelligence is now proven
... to be inherent in biological organisms with developed nervous systems.

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#79853 Mar 9, 2013
superwilly wrote:
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Ok, following your reasoning, since there are one or two points (and there are more!) that Darwin was wrong on (ie racism, totally linear evolution), then you should just call his whole theory into question, correct?
And we have questioned his theory. It was never accepted because it sounded good. It has been tested thousands if not millions of times since he wrote it.

Guess what?

It passed the tests.

So, if you want to disprove evolution find a way to test it and show that the results of the test don't agree with the theory.

That is how science works.

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Everett, WA

#79854 Mar 9, 2013
His-truth wrote:
intelligence is now proven
Sadly it is not for the creationists. If anything they seem to have a negative intelligence. If you mean there are some intelligent people out there that can look at the world and give a good account of how life came to the state it is now you would be correct. And of course the proven winner is evolution.

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#79855 Mar 9, 2013
I'm sot a science person .. but if even I can understand this .. anyone can . . . all life is triune .. matter / energy and ...

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#79857 Mar 9, 2013
I'm not .. I a lousy typist .. forgive me

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#79858 Mar 9, 2013
And of course the proven winner is evolution .. only in the micro .. not the macro . . . PS: evolution does not explain origin . . . all life is triune .. matter / energy and ...
adif understanding

Little Hocking, OH

#79859 Mar 9, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Indeed. But by the same token we could all be trapped in the Matrix. Both claims are just as valid.
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Except "God" is not a fact. It so far doesn't even rise to the level of testable hypothesis.
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Or it is possible that no such being exists.
God is just as much a fact as the unknown person who you spoke with the other night. You cannot scientifically prove he/she ever existed or that you actually spoke with someone either. It doesn't change the fact that you spoke with someone. A deceased man is found alongside the road with no identification or identifying marks and his identity is completely unknown- No scientific test provides answers to his identity. He didn't magically appear once he died and was found.

The point wasn't that God existed, it was that science doesn't mean he doesn't exist and the very premise of science could be his creation to boot. There is nothing restricting a God to the bounds of science and any violation of any scientific principle means absolutely nothing in regards to any reality pertaining to a God. It only means that he isn't scientifically testable. Holding someone to the standard of proof scientifically else it isn't true is not even scientific in and of itself. For years, alchemist and metallurgist have attempted to turn lead into gold. The failed but it did not mean it was not possible, only that we didn't know how to do it as recently, we have figured it out in small amounts in a lab setting. So the lack of scientific evidence does not mean something does not exist, only that we have no scientific evidence that it does.

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Everett, WA

#79860 Mar 9, 2013
His-truth wrote:
And of course the proven winner is evolution .. only in the micro .. not the macro ... PS: evolution does not explain origin ... all life is triune .. matter / energy and ...
There is no micro or macro evolution. It is all evolution. Creationists have never been able to prove that there is a limit to evolution or where that limit is.

Evolution is still the winner. There is no evidence of "intelligence".

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#79861 Mar 9, 2013
no .. God is not testable .. God is not bound by time and space . . . He created time and space .. god sees the beginning and the end all in one glance . . . Hid creation however .. bares his trademark . . . intelligence .. proven

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#79862 Mar 9, 2013
I type w/ ten thumbs and have lisdexia .. forgive me

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#79863 Mar 9, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
There is no micro or macro evolution. It is all evolution. Creationists have never been able to prove that there is a limit to evolution or where that limit is.
Evolution is still the winner. There is no evidence of "intelligence".
not at all ... micro can view changes w/in a species .. however .. species to species is not proven .. only presumed

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#79864 Mar 9, 2013
"There is no evidence of "intelligence"

really ??.. tell me the difference between a rock and an Indian arrowhead

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Everett, WA

#79865 Mar 9, 2013
His-truth wrote:
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not at all ... micro can view changes w/in a species .. however .. species to species is not proven .. only presumed
Wrong again. We have more than enough evidence in genetics alone that shows evolution happened. ERV's are a slam dunk for evolution all by themselves. Creatards have no answer for them.

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#79866 Mar 9, 2013
is this one to tough ??.. I'm feeln like a knap

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Everett, WA

#79867 Mar 9, 2013
His-truth wrote:
"There is no evidence of "intelligence"
really ??.. tell me the difference between a rock and an Indian arrowhead
Alright, first define what you mean by "intelligence". If you mean that godidit then no, there is no evidence for intelligence. An arrowhead can be demonstrated to have been made by man. We can show a man making one. And before you try to compare an arrowhead to life here is one simple question that you should ask yourself: "Can an arrowhead reproduce?"

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Seattle

#79868 Mar 9, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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so your trying to use an example of cause and effect to show that a effect can and happen without a cause?
If ice is simple cause and effect, why can't the origin of the universe be as well?

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#79869 Mar 9, 2013
His-truth wrote:
"There is no evidence of "intelligence"
really ??.. tell me the difference between a rock and an Indian arrowhead
Rocks are the result of natural processes.

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Seattle

#79870 Mar 9, 2013
His-truth wrote:
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not at all ... micro can view changes w/in a species .. however .. species to species is not proven .. only presumed
Okay, so the skin coloring of the species can change.

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#79871 Mar 9, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
Wrong again. We have more than enough evidence in genetics alone that shows evolution happened. ERV's are a slam dunk for evolution all by themselves. Creatards have no answer for them.
are you telling me evolution explains origin ??.. Y/N

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