Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 221446 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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#78818 Mar 5, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>how fun would that be! magic and miracles and all that fun stuff and eternal life (even though it won't really be you, but hey...)

why do you think non beleivers wouldn't like that?
Won't really be me? I'm afraid I don't follow.
Perhaps, then, it would be a better use of energy to seek proof that such a thing does exist rather than wasting said energy trying to debunk it. Especially when you (as per your post) sincerely hope that it's real.
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#78819 Mar 5, 2013
The Bible tells us in the beginning darkness was upon the face of the deep and if we could relate this to molecular clouds which collapse under their own weight to form stars then we might see how the cold dark CO and H2 in the gas clouds could have been the face of the waters also.

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#78820 Mar 5, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>No most of them are not guesses. you can wish that were true as it may disagree with your world view, but they are not guesses.
Within 100 years, most of the scientific ideologies of today, will more than likely be obsolete.

Your scientists of today will be consider primitive neanderthals, compared to science in 100 years.

But the concepts of the bible will still be the same.

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St. Croix valley

#78821 Mar 5, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
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Won't really be me? I'm afraid I don't follow.
Perhaps, then, it would be a better use of energy to seek proof that such a thing does exist rather than wasting said energy trying to debunk it. Especially when you (as per your post) sincerely hope that it's real.
tha;s just the thing, people have done that for..ever, really. not one shred of evidence. the fact that these myths have been proven to be based on lies, kinda makes a modern rational person realize they were made up by men, so no real use in looking for a lie.

would be cool though.

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St. Croix valley

#78822 Mar 5, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
The Bible tells us in the beginning darkness was upon the face of the deep and if we could relate this to molecular clouds which collapse under their own weight to form stars then we might see how the cold dark CO and H2 in the gas clouds could have been the face of the waters also.
Still out of order...perhaps the perfect god was confused...

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#78823 Mar 5, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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Within 100 years, most of the scientific ideologies of today, will more than likely be obsolete.
Your scientists of today will be consider primitive neanderthals, compared to science in 100 years.
But the concepts of the bible will still be the same.
That may well be true.

IT'S CALLED "LEARNING", YOU HALFWIT!!!!

And the "concepts of the bible" will still be in the Bronze Age.

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St. Croix valley

#78824 Mar 5, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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Within 100 years, most of the scientific ideologies of today, will more than likely be obsolete.
Your scientists of today will be consider primitive neanderthals, compared to science in 100 years.
But the concepts of the bible will still be the same.
Even the bible doesn'[t stay the same. first slavery is cool and killing homosexuals is gods word, then jesus says dad was old fashioned and wrong..and yes, the lies in the bible will still be lies.

and it was about 100 years ago that einstein came up with his relativity theory...still alive!

so you were wrong on both accounts.

actually,

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#78825 Mar 5, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>tha;s just the thing, people have done that for..ever, really. not one shred of evidence. the fact that these myths have been proven to be based on lies, kinda makes a modern rational person realize they were made up by men, so no real use in looking for a lie.

would be cool though.
No use in living one either since you can't, in fact, disprove the existence of God using the scientific method.

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St. Croix valley

#78826 Mar 5, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
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Won't really be me? I'm afraid I don't follow.
Perhaps, then, it would be a better use of energy to seek proof that such a thing does exist rather than wasting said energy trying to debunk it. Especially when you (as per your post) sincerely hope that it's real.
From what i have gathered, it won't be anypart of you in your heaven. you won;t know it is you as your mind won't be there. if it is, that brings up a shole set of problems for heaven that would make it more like hell.

are babies always blathering, drooling, helpless beings> forever? how awful!

if you have a stroke, that is part of you, is that how you spend eternity? again sounds like hell.

more serious problems with the lies of religious cults.

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#78827 Mar 5, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Still out of order...perhaps the perfect god was confused...
Oh, so now your admitting that thousands of year old biblical "mythology" correlates to your scienctific concepts...but just a little out of order.lol

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#78828 Mar 5, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>That may well be true.
IT'S CALLED "LEARNING", YOU HALFWIT!!!!
And the "concepts of the bible" will still be in the Bronze Age.
And we will have more proofs that The Bible and the Christian religion is nothing but man made crap. The Koran also..:-)

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#78829 Mar 5, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>From what i have gathered, it won't be anypart of you in your heaven. you won;t know it is you as your mind won't be there. if it is, that brings up a shole set of problems for heaven that would make it more like hell.

are babies always blathering, drooling, helpless beings> forever? how awful!

if you have a stroke, that is part of you, is that how you spend eternity? again sounds like hell.

more serious problems with the lies of religious cults.
Seriously. The only thing I got out of all your babbling was "lies of religious cults". Which is an interesting concept when you stop and think about it.

Since you don't believe in Heaven anyway, what does it matter to you?

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#78830 Mar 5, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
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No use in living one either since you can't, in fact, disprove the existence of God using the scientific method.
in living one what? yes, you told us you can't prove that the Spaghetti Monster is your god...

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St. Croix valley

#78831 Mar 5, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
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Seriously. The only thing I got out of all your babbling was "lies of religious cults". Which is an interesting concept when you stop and think about it.
Since you don't believe in Heaven anyway, what does it matter to you?
yes, i'm sure that;s all you could get...

just more evidence of the made up nature of the cults.

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#78832 Mar 5, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>That may well be true.
IT'S CALLED "LEARNING", YOU HALFWIT!!!!
And the "concepts of the bible" will still be in the Bronze Age.
yes, I have learned that when you tell me a scientific truth today, that tomorrow it might not be so true after all...but one thing that I do have to give to you... consistency.

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St. Croix valley

#78833 Mar 5, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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Oh, so now your admitting that thousands of year old biblical "mythology" correlates to your scienctific concepts...but just a little out of order.lol
no, that was just as close as you could get twisting the words to fit the real world...

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#78834 Mar 5, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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Don't waste your time with these fools. No one was around the time the Big Bang occurred. The big bang is another theory and still being debated. No one observed how the universe was formed but these fools believe everything about science.
No one was around when your supposed 'God' supposedly created the universe. So you have no idea.
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#78835 Mar 5, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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No, I don't live in any one neighborhood. I have traveled the entirety of the continental, mainland, USA, that's all but the islands and Alaska. I have seen people go out of their way to not only help me, but others, just for the sake of helping. The news only shows the worst stories, because good news doesn't sell papers or periodicals of any sort ... good news also doesn't get reported that often because most times people don't do it for the publicity. Humanity is on the right track, as long as we do not allow religious nonsense to continue to hold us back. In the US the only problem we truly face that can actually be solved is to educate people, and religious doctrine doesn't like learning, it can't stand intelligence, because when you are learned, you question everything, and under any scrutiny religious nonsense collapses.
I don't say that all people are bad. And I don't say that you just have to go to bad neighborhoods to witness badness.

I just say that bad times turns just about everyone bad. Goodness is limited to acts that don't betray one's status in a community. Being "the Man" or being "a snitch" can equally make you a victim in any particular community depending on how others perceive you, while being a penniless bum can leave you unmolested in some places and make you a pestilence in others.

I'd like to think that I've played different roles in different places. For the most part, I've found that people liked me the most when I was a soldier who could protect them or an established person who could pay their bills. The important thing is that I didn't see many people who thought about the long term.

Without a long term plan, most gestures are fairly empty and low-budget. I stopped living my life around peoples coupon-clipping social values long ago. Coupons won't buy groceries if you still don't have enough cash to be a player. People turn very ugly when they suddenly find that they have nothing but coupons, metaphorically speaking. Be careful in those dark times. Nobody sees them coming.

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#78836 Mar 5, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>in living one what? yes, you told us you can't prove that the Spaghetti Monster is your god...
Nor can you, by using the scientific method, disprove the existence of God. Now I'm officially hungry for spaghetti. Thank you very much, atheists.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Evolution is true.....

#78837 Mar 5, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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That is an incredibly simple-minded stance. The Bible was written by many people with different motives over a long period of time. It doesn't stand or fall as a unit. Even the individual units have been reworked so many times that the original texts have no relation to the modern ones. Nonetheless, there will be historical references that are correct mixed in with the legends and outright fabrications.
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Why not? Some parts could be perfectly reliable and other quite poor in their veracity. The same thing happens with all ancient historical texts.
Yes you are right, but it seems to me that a book that was God inspired wouldn't have any mistakes. Would you agree?

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