Evolution vs. Creation

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#76547 Feb 19, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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Other elements were there but hydrogen was produced first. Do you know how other elements were formed? Hydrogen has one electron and one proton and the other elements have combination of electrons and protons and neutrons.
from yahoo:
The more gas there is, the higher the compression, and the hotter it gets. A star is a mass of trillions of tonnes of gas that has contracted till it has heated up to billions of degrees. The compression and temperature is so great, that atoms of hydrogen are fused together to form helium.
When the hydrogen is all fused, then further compression will cause the helium to fuse to form other elements. Elements hydrogen, helium, lithium, berrberylliumon and carbon are formed in this way.
Elements more complex than carbon cannot be fused in a star - it takes the massive energy of an exploding star to form the other elements of which the earth (and us) is composed. We are therefore composed in part from stardust of an exploding star.
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com
yeah, yeah...I took 7th grade science class. again, how does anyone know this prime matter exists.

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#76548 Feb 19, 2013
MikeF wrote:
Speaking of that goddamn particle:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/18/us-...
First if a massive asteroid hits Earth, we're doomed especially if it hits a nuclear plant. And when Earth is gone, it will affect the moon and it will affect the other planets. It will affect our solar system and the sun will die out like death of stars and galaxies. But I don't think it would be the end of the universe. The universe will continue to exist. But it will be different.

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#76549 Feb 19, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>yeah, yeah...I took 7th grade science class. again, how does anyone know this prime matter exists.
just like how we think the higgs-boson exists

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#76550 Feb 19, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Hmm. SZ babbling BS again. Go figure.
"According to a survey of members of the American Assn. for the Advancement of Science, conducted by the Pew Research Center in May and June this year, a majority of scientists (51%) say they believe in God or a higher power, while 41% say they do not."
If you want to make a point about me you should have quoted me. So what are you trying to refute with this post? There are all kinds of scientists. Physicists have a higher percentage of atheists than chemists. And believing in God does not mean that you do not believe the theory of evolution.

So I seriously don't think you made a point since you forgot to quote properly.

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#76551 Feb 19, 2013
I see that Langoliers is misreading the PEW poll. Yes, atheism does have a higher percentage that leave it than religions do. Yet it is growing faster than religions according to the PEW poll too. How could that be?
And the fact that Atheism is growing faster than religions is the critical number. One of the reason that atheism loses people is that many people do get tired when fighting the majority. Since atheism is growing faster than religion that will not always be a problem.

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St. Croix valley

#76552 Feb 19, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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just like how we think the higgs-boson exists
But we have actually created the higgs boson. has anyone ever created any prime matter that can be detected?

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#76553 Feb 19, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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First if a massive asteroid hits Earth, we're doomed especially if it hits a nuclear plant. And when Earth is gone, it will affect the moon and it will affect the other planets. It will affect our solar system and the sun will die out like death of stars and galaxies. But I don't think it would be the end of the universe. The universe will continue to exist. But it will be different.
An asteroid hitting a nuclear plant would not destroy the earth. If all the nuclear plants on the Earth exploded at once, they would not destroy the earth. they may kill most of the life here if they did, but they would not destroy the earth.

Why would the sun die out if the planets were gone? it would continue burning its fuel as always.

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#76554 Feb 19, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>An asteroid hitting a nuclear plant would not destroy the earth. If all the nuclear plants on the Earth exploded at once, they would not destroy the earth. they may kill most of the life here if they did, but they would not destroy the earth.
Why would the sun die out if the planets were gone? it would continue burning its fuel as always.
I didn't say it would destroy the earth. It would take more than one nuclear explosion to destroy the earth. But all life will be gone though. If you look at the link Mike provided, it's talking about what could happen billions of years from now. The sun will die out just like any other stars. Unless you believe that the sun has eternal life. But the expanding universe will continue...

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#76555 Feb 19, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>But we have actually created the higgs boson. has anyone ever created any prime matter that can be detected?
So you the higgs-boson actually exists now? Wow you're ahead of CERN. They only "found" a particle that acts like it.

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St. Croix valley

#76556 Feb 19, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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I didn't say it would destroy the earth. It would take more than one nuclear explosion to destroy the earth. But all life will be gone though. If you look at the link Mike provided, it's talking about what could happen billions of years from now. The sun will die out just like any other stars. Unless you believe that the sun has eternal life. But the expanding universe will continue...
it would take more than all of our nukes exploding at once on top of all our nuclear plants to destroy the earth.

So what was all that stuff about the earth being gone and destroying the moon and the other planets about?

yes, the sun will run out of fuel in a few billion years. probably kill all life on earth in a little under one billion years as it increases its output.

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#76557 Feb 19, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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So you the higgs-boson actually exists now? Wow you're ahead of CERN. They only "found" a particle that acts like it.
They seem pretty certain they created and detected one. they usually do not make such claims lightly.

has anyone ever made any such claim about this prime matter?

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#76558 Feb 19, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>They seem pretty certain they created and detected one. they usually do not make such claims lightly.
has anyone ever made any such claim about this prime matter?
No they have not created one yet. Right now CERN is not even at work. It's under maintenance.

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#76559 Feb 19, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Actually it would only be clear if there were clear contemporary accounts.
Since there isn't then it is also possible that he was made up, just like every other religion.
No. It is not true. There were Jewish conspiracy. Jesus truly existed...

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St. Croix valley

#76560 Feb 19, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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No they have not created one yet. Right now CERN is not even at work. It's under maintenance.
ya might want to check up on their past work...sheesh!

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#76561 Feb 19, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> No. It is not true. There were Jewish conspiracy. Jesus truly existed...
but he was a human just like everyone else.

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#76562 Feb 19, 2013
The Higgs boson or Higgs particle is a theoretical elementary particle predicted to exist by the Standard Model of particle physics. Experiments to detect the Higgs boson resulted in the discovery of a new, previously unknown boson during 2012; however contrary to widespread misreporting,[12] the new particle is still being studied as of 2013 to learn whether it is the Higgs boson or not.[13][14] Confirmation that the Higgs boson exists would be monumental[15][16] since it would finally prove the existence of the Higgs field." - wikipedia
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#76563 Feb 19, 2013
anonymous wrote:
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Well, I don't think you'll be labeled an artist anytime soon.
Still sounds like a Caucasian flavor of bigotry to me. Gibberish, invented to obfuscate at best, but possibly a mental disorder.
All artist play chords in cyclic progressions.

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#76564 Feb 19, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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They were next door?
Syria, Edom, Lebanon, Jordan, etc, are next door neighbours. Why Egypt?

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#76565 Feb 19, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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What???
What is what?

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#76566 Feb 19, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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You're giving them too much credit
Minority! They barely exist!
The CIA World Factbook gives the world population as 7,021,836,029 (July 2012 est.) and the distribution of religions as Christian 33.35%(of which Roman Catholic 16.83%, Protestant 6.08%, Orthodox 4.03%, Anglican 1.26%), Muslim 22.43%, Hindu 13.78%, Buddhist 7.13%, Sikh 0.36%, Jewish 0.21%, Baha'i 0.11%, other religions 11.17%, atheists 2.04%.
"Posted earlier by derek4
Study: Atheists Have Lowest 'Retention Rate' Compared to Religious Groups
Only about 30 percent of those who grow up in an atheist household remain atheists as adults. This "retention rate" was the lowest among the 20 separate categories in the study.
There were 1,387 atheists (weighted) in the survey. Four-hundred thirty-two weighted respondents said they were raised atheist. Of those, 131 self-identified as atheist.
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Gray also noted that, "of those raised as atheists, 30% are now affiliated with a Protestant denomination, 10% are Catholic, 2% are Jewish, 1% are Mormon, and 1% are Pagan."
Jehovah's Witness, congregationalist and holiness churches had the next lowest retention rates at 37 percent, 37 percent and 32 percent, respectively. Thirty-eight percent of those who grew up with no particular religious faith or belief system remained that way.
Hindus had the highest retention rate at 84 percent, followed by Jews (76 percent), Muslims (76 percent), Greek Orthodox (73 percent), Mormons (70 percent) and Catholics (68 percent).
Baptists had the highest retention rate of the Protestant Christian categories at 60 percent, followed by Lutheran (59 percent) and Pentecostal (50 percent).
http://www.christianpost.com/news/study-athei...
[Right; NO thinking people don't want to be atheists.]
From: Deseret News / Salt Lake City, UT
July, 2012
“Atheists abandon their beliefs more often than people in other religious groups, study finds”
A new study has found that people raised in an atheist home abandon those beliefs as adults more often than people raised with other religious belief systems, putting atheism at a 30 percent retention rate. Conclusions and interpretations of the study are that atheists are more often "made" as adults rather than "raised." The highest retention rates are in the Hindu faith, which holds onto about 84 percent of adherents.
Those who grow up in an atheist household are least likely to maintain their beliefs about religion as adults, according to a study by Georgetown University's Center for Applied Research in the Apostolate (CARA).
Only about 30 percent of those who grow up in an atheist household remain atheists as adults. This "retention rate" was the lowest among the 20 separate categories in the study.
There were 1,387 atheists (weighted) in the survey. Four-hundred thirty-two weighted respondents said they were raised atheist. Of those, 131 self-identified as atheist.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/765589392/...
[Who would want to be an atheist? LOL]"
Thanks for the education.

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