Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 223384 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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#76639 Feb 19, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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Ok here.
HYDROGEN = 1 proton + 1 electron, 0 neutrons
prime matter was split into a negative and positive charge particles, one repelled, one attracted
the positive charge attracted prime matter particles
1 proton = 918 prime matter particles
(which is 1838 the electron weight)
HYDROGEN = PRIME MATTER
No, some theory states that hydrogen has prime matter in it. no proof of it anywhere that you can find...

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#76640 Feb 19, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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The United States of America Central Intelligent's Agency says that the population of the worlds ATHEIST is at 2.04%. Almost non-existent.
I'll take their word for it.
Most people that are free thinkers or nonbelievers don't call themselves atheist, much like I have been telling you for years.

i would never answer a poll saying i was an ateist because i am not one.

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#76641 Feb 19, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>Most don't. Most are like me and demand evidence.

Do you have any? No.
This was in response to:

"Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> And does not changes the evidence of a God? NO!
There are many physicist that believes in the existence of God. "

who="Subduction Zone"]<quoted text>Most don't. Most are like me and demand evidence.

Do you have any? No.

I then responded to you with this:
"Langoliers wrote:
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Hmm. SZ babbling BS again. Go figure.

"According to a survey of members of the American Assn. for the Advancement of Science, conducted by the Pew Research Center in May and June this year, a majority of scientists (51%) say they believe in God or a higher power, while 41% say they do not."

I hope this clears the fog in your head a bit.

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#76642 Feb 19, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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It just shows you how hydrogen was formed. Has anyone found quarks? So how did scientists find the top quark on the higgs-boson?
I'll say read along.
Freeservant too as to the spin-off of what he calles waisted money.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_boson
New bosons discovered.
'Top' and 'quark' i did however not pay attention too, today.

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#76643 Feb 19, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>We know quarks exist by measuring their electric charge.

sorry charlie....

where is this supposed prime matter again? why can't you answer this simple quetion?
The same way they measured the proton of hydrogen, the positive charge duh!

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#76644 Feb 19, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>No, some theory states that hydrogen has prime matter in it. no proof of it anywhere that you can find...
So what other theory is there that explains how electron and proton of the simplest element was formed?

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St. Croix valley

#76645 Feb 19, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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The same way they measured the proton of hydrogen, the positive charge duh!
yes, but the existence of any prime matter was not shown. just some quarks. Did you really understand the video you posted? then why did you post it?

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#76646 Feb 19, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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So what other theory is there that explains how electron and proton of the simplest element was formed?
i thought Quarks made up those elements. seems to be the accepted theory.

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#76647 Feb 19, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>No, some theory states that hydrogen has prime matter in it. no proof of it anywhere that you can find...
That adam in the video commenting is the problem. The very first lines.
I would have spoken about spacefoam and quoted the Perimeter Institute and then on to Promium.

BUT prime matter:
An Aristotelian term for matter prior to its receiving form, sometimes identified with pure extension.

If he had written extensor or existence... but no... lets go for extension...of what?

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St. Croix valley

#76648 Feb 19, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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So what other theory is there that explains how electron and proton of the simplest element was formed?
you do realize a hydrogen atom can exist without your theorized mystery matter, don't you?

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St. Croix valley

#76649 Feb 19, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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The same way they measured the proton of hydrogen, the positive charge duh!
your little video said prime matter had no charge. di you go out for popcorn in the middle again? sheesh!

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#76650 Feb 19, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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So what other theory is there that explains how electron and proton of the simplest element was formed?
I posted this before a few weeks ago, because it is the most approachable, funny, even though it contains some math.
Well read it this time.
http://www.angmalta.net/clients/alan/existenc...

Or you could read up on Wheeler: Geons, Dark matter and Foamy structure of the universe . 1998
But that 's tough going.
Your question is comparable to an iceberg. 90 percent under water and when it tilts you defenitely do not want to be around.
Or maybe you are of the sturdy stuff.

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#76651 Feb 19, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>your little video said prime matter had no charge. di you go out for popcorn in the middle again? sheesh!
Laughing...no went to get the popcorn.
A second viewing was indeed needed, not to miss those few seconds.

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#76652 Feb 19, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>you do realize a hydrogen atom can exist without your theorized mystery matter, don't you?
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/...
gluons quarks
And what to think of 500 forms of matter.

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#76653 Feb 19, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah, in threes usually.
Nah. Usually more like C, F, G and F. Then there's C, Am, F & G - which covers most of the 50s.

Since: Mar 11

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#76654 Feb 19, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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Nah. Usually more like C, F, G and F. Then there's C, Am, F & G - which covers most of the 50s.
Geez, just hit G, A, then D and you have 300 songs there.

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#76655 Feb 19, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>your little video said prime matter had no charge. di you go out for popcorn in the middle again? sheesh!
You did not realy understand it, did you? It says it has a positive and negative charge but its fields are intertwined and inward facing. It is "perceived" as neutral so it can't be seen or felt with present instrument.

It basically has the same idea as quarks, but quarks are theorized as little strings, thus the string theory. So if you're confident that quarks exist because it can be measured, why not prime matter?

The video tells you measurement of particles, the positive charge attracted prime matter particles after energy split prime matter into positive and negative charge, a positron and electron. The positron attracted 918 prime matter particles clumped together in 5 layers as neutrinos and became the proton. This proton attracted the electron but kept it at a distance. And this simple element with one proton and one electron is called Hydrogen.

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#76656 Feb 19, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Geez, just hit G, A, then D and you have 300 songs there.
Easily.

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#76657 Feb 19, 2013

Since: Mar 11

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#76658 Feb 19, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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You did not realy understand it, did you? It says it has a positive and negative charge but its fields are intertwined and inward facing. It is "perceived" as neutral so it can't be seen or felt with present instrument.
It basically has the same idea as quarks, but quarks are theorized as little strings, thus the string theory. So if you're confident that quarks exist because it can be measured, why not prime matter?
The video tells you measurement of particles, the positive charge attracted prime matter particles after energy split prime matter into positive and negative charge, a positron and electron. The positron attracted 918 prime matter particles clumped together in 5 layers as neutrinos and became the proton. This proton attracted the electron but kept it at a distance. And this simple element with one proton and one electron is called Hydrogen.
No, quarks are not theorized as strings outside of string theory.

so it can't be detected, but you know it is there how? again we CAN actually measure quarks electric charge. not your mystery mattter though...

yes we have hydrogen. no need for your mystery matter, just the proton and hte electron...

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