Evolution vs. Creation

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#75377 Feb 12, 2013
Terry (and other RATIONAL people): Is it me, or did you have a tough time trying to decipher what 'tonymount' was trying to say?

Other than that he disapproves of the Theory of Evolution due to his misinformed opinion?
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#75378 Feb 12, 2013
Thats The Book of Ecclesiastes and SCP theory is based on this cycling concept.

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#75379 Feb 12, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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The difference is not clear, the difference is that you choose a particular delusion
No difference other than the English convention of capitalising nouns aww come on you claim so much for the English language. If one god deserves a capital letter then they all do but if you claim no god but your own god deserves a capital then you are discrediting the English language. Personally I believe that no god deserves a capital, its a made up concept, your particular god belief was made up in the bronze age, probably from the beliefs of the Egyptian pharaoh Akhenaten worship of the sun.
FYI the word god was not even invented until the 6th century Christian Codex Argenteus was written it stems from the proto German root gudan.
As a simple by the way!
You have no idea of the number of texts i plowed through to find the first menyion. Even finding Jesus in any shape or form i still can't correctly pin-point.
Western church-history makes it all look as if they actually kept check.
They did not.
All i know is that a russian bible is the only one that can be dated properly.
I took it that god came from:
A version of Gawd (old english first attestation in a Welsh copy) the syrian god of chance and enemy of YHWH.
Or from Goth since they spread a rule of terror and destruction to enforce christianity.
Gudean i would read as a form of 'good' or pointing to Judea. The man from Gudea.

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#75380 Feb 12, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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The truth is...is if it didn't work, it would have been given up along long time ago...
Is every prayer answered?...no...why? Because if every prayer was answered it would become mundane, deteriorating into mere wishes for such things as money and power.
Again, if it DID work it would be used in medicine today. of course it doesn't work...proven.

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#75381 Feb 12, 2013
ZACKLY wrote:
Evolution claims new kinds of species arise and everything evolves on earth. The Bible teaches that there is nothing new under the sun. The book of Solomon chapter 1:6&7&8&9 teaches that everything comes again on its circuit.
I would put it even stronger: life started at least twice.
Anaerobic and aerobic life.

May i suggest you read Solomon in context.
And leave it there.

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#75382 Feb 12, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
Terry (and other RATIONAL people): Is it me, or did you have a tough time trying to decipher what 'tonymount' was trying to say?
Other than that he disapproves of the Theory of Evolution due to his misinformed opinion?
I just figured it was a combination of a science-denier's thought process and a random word generator. I could be wrong though

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#75383 Feb 12, 2013
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>I just figured it was a combination of a science-denier's thought process and a random word generator. I could be wrong though
'thought process'...funny!

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#75385 Feb 12, 2013
FYI the word god was not even invented until the 6th century Christian Codex Argenteus was written it stems from the proto German root gudan.
As a simple by the way!
You have no idea of the number of texts i plowed through to find the first menyion. Even finding Jesus in any shape or form i still can't correctly pin-point.
Western church-history makes it all look as if they actually kept check.
They did not.
All i know is that a russian bible is the only one that can be dated properly.
I took it that god came from:
A version of Gawd (old english first attestation in a Welsh copy) the syrian god of chance and enemy of YHWH.
Or from Goth since they spread a rule of terror and destruction to enforce christianity.
Gudean i would read as a form of 'good' or pointing to Judea. The man from Gudea.
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The gothic or rhunic swedish 'goth' is not related to the greek agathos-good.(fhutark, is a limited alphabet but that is want the Goths based their alphabet on.)
But in it's most original meaning it would be intertwined, fitting in it's circle of things belonging and part of the environment(a garden weed f.i.)
I got too Gu da an.
Gu-intertwined
da-god
an-one, only

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#75386 Feb 12, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Um, most of the elements in the universe are the result, not "created" at all, of the massive chemical reactions we call stars.
and you assume nothing created or caused the stars to have nuclear reaction

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#75387 Feb 12, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Again, if it DID work it would be used in medicine today. of course it doesn't work...proven.
You want doctors to be faith healers or witch doctors? eww..

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#75388 Feb 12, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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and you assume nothing created or caused the stars to have nuclear reaction
I can demonstrate that for you.

You supply the hydrogen.

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#75389 Feb 12, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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E=MC^2 is NOT a failed theory, nor a law, its an equation that has NEVER been disproven. Even the recent jubilation at CERN in which it was thought the equation did not account for neutrino loopholes was proven to be a technical error.
It was never designed to encompass the infinities of singularities, it is an equation for the atomic domain, the domain the atomic universe exists in.
There are similar equations for the quantum domain and until recently the two could never meet because of the infinities of those singularities
The mathematics of Dr Param Singh handles the infinities of both the atomic and quantum realms and ties them together in a way that allows scientists to think and work path those infinities to places they were unable to comprehend 2 years ago.
Please keep up if you want to attempt to discredit evidence.
But it appears that what you want is a piece of magic that works everywhere and every when and you believe no such magic exists so come to the obvious conclusion of the bronze age the hard of thinking and shout GODDIDIT
Let me assure you, science is working on such a unified theory and if/when there is a breakthrough the whole world will hear.
In other words, you want to get the facts and then assume that it did it itself instead of how it was done.

But thanks for the explanation, that was informative. ;-)

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#75390 Feb 12, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>I can demonstrate that for you.
You supply the hydrogen.
Did you know the word hydrogen was derived from the french word/suffix 'hydro-gene'

maybe that's a clue.
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#75393 Feb 12, 2013
ZACKLY wrote:
Evolution claims new kinds of species arise and everything evolves on earth. The Bible teaches that there is nothing new under the sun. The book of Solomon chapter 1:6&7&8&9 teaches that everything comes again on its circuit.
"The Bible teaches....".No, humans teach, the Bible is a tool. "Evolution claims...".No, it is a guess at human existence. Both are human error in raw form. The primitive human animal has an active imagination. Fear and gullibility contribute to exaggerated and false conclusions. Deep space holds all human existence answers..........
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#75395 Feb 12, 2013
KandaDogon wrote:
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If you look at the univers,you can see how everything is made in great harmony,measure,and smarteness; look at your own intelligence,the interractions between vegetations and human beins, the presence of the stars that guide human being on the sea and during the night,the water coming from the heaven to produice vegetations to nourrrich us and our cattles;the existance of the night for our rest and the day for our quest of bounty,the fact that everything is in pair from humans to animals;the diversity and colors of everything....according to you all this is the result of a random chemical accident!?
Dont read this, its the truth. Creation and evolution are fear generated and lack of info by the creaters....Deep space holds all the answers to human existence.....not Gods, not bones or monkey DNA.

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#75396 Feb 12, 2013
Alien Outlaw wrote:
<quoted text>"The Bible teaches....".No, humans teach, the Bible is a tool. "Evolution claims...".No, it is a guess at human existence. Both are human error in raw form. The primitive human animal has an active imagination. Fear and gullibility contribute to exaggerated and false conclusions. Deep space holds all human existence answers..........
We know what side you're on but Science wants answers. To fully understand everything is to be somewhat on all sides. We can't dismiss something that evidently has a purpose. For example, you keep talking about aliens but have you figured out why they create esoteric symbols such as the Tree of Life on crop circles? What is the connection they're trying to make?

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#75398 Feb 12, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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In the vastness of the universe the entire milky way galaxy hardly registers among the billions of galaxies so one lump of rock circling one of the billions of stars in that mote of a galaxy is nothing. On the universal scale humans are smaller than atoms compared to earth.
Let me put it into proportion for you.
On this lump of rock we call earth humans are the (allegedly) most intelligent of around 8,7 million animal species - nothing
Or
There are myriad more suns in the billions of galaxies in this universe than there are grains of sand on every beach on earth - nothing
Or
Take all the space out of all the atoms of all the 7 billion people on earth and you wind up with an ultra dense object about the size of a sugar cube - nothing
So you are correct, albeit for the wrong reason, humans are nothing - Get that?
Your concept of fails to take into account the relativity of size. Humans compared to the macro and microscopic world are humongous.

Calling people nothing is also a strictly relative concept...you can state "people in size, are nothing compared to to the size of the Universe."

Or people in size are humongous, compared to the size the microscopic Universe.

Size is a matter of perspective...it is not absolute, as you imply.



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#75399 Feb 12, 2013
DA-innate
A language search shows that it always mean Innate, inner- interconnection that can not be broken, symbiosis.
We can even go from (roumenian yes)da-ida-ita(thus latin).
And i presume also da-the:theos-deos.
And in Ewe we see it even means mother, bow and snake (twine,creation-myth or for the milky way one can see from the region), all to do with necessary connection.
Similar meaning: of,from,the
D(alet)paleo-hebrew: door, way, path, womb a.o.
Also in sumerian we find innate.
BU.BA corner(s) as in winddirection. BU-sharp DA-innate. Or of, is, be.

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#75400 Feb 12, 2013
KandaDogon wrote:
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Then tell me created these chemical products,who created these stars,who have permit the existance of these reactions?
WHO?
Your next post however says that WHO can not be defined notr understood.

Well untill you guys (old celtic for intelligent(s)) figure it out, we just take it that the elements on earth are nothing that does not come from heavy stars exploding first and then imploding.
Since we can find no other elements. And what we have is similar to what we find out there.

So you look for one huge step but fail to connect the dots in the meantime.

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#75401 Feb 12, 2013
KD wrote:The problem with you is that you try to image the nature of God, or gave him an anthropomorphous appearance, noone can imagine the nature of God,and if you say that the deep space hold the answers then tell me how the deep space appeared?
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So what's the WHO question about than...?

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