Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 216707 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Best of New Orleans.

““You must not lose faith ”

Level 5

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#74111 Feb 6, 2013
typo X)) god-good

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#74112 Feb 6, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Your description of what a scientific theory is is not correct. one needs corroborating evidence to make a theory. a scientific theory must predict future observations and those must be upheld or the thoery must be altered or thrown out.
why would you try to debunk the scientific method when you don't even understan what it si our how it works?
If a theory was 100% certain, then it would be a fact and not a theory.
neutral observer

West Palm Beach, FL

#74113 Feb 6, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
I fail to see how...

&#9668; Matthew 5:44

"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;"

....would support anyone's political agenda.
Not national politics. The gospels were written by men trying to influence the church into going certain ways... so they made up things and put them into the mouth of Jesus.
neutral observer

West Palm Beach, FL

#74114 Feb 6, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
Science as a belief system utterly fails because it's basic foundation, is one of doubt. There's always a possibility that any given theorem, can be completely over turned or reversed.

hypothesis= this is the way it could be.

Theory= this is the way it seems to be.

Intrinsic intelligent processes exhibited by the Universe?...100% observable and testable phenomena.
Science is not a belief system. It is a study through observation of the intrinsic intelligent processes exhibited by the universe.
neutral observer

West Palm Beach, FL

#74115 Feb 6, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
If a theory was 100% certain, then it would be a fact and not a theory.
Not really. It would still be a theory because of alternative ideas about how it works.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#74116 Feb 6, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
I fail to see how...
&#9668; Matthew 5:44
"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;"
....would support anyone's political agenda.
Wellm the historical backround changes as to different opposition to christianity was at the time of that particular gospel's writing.

yes, they were in fact propoganda, billboards if you will for their particular sect of believers...

If they were true memoirs fo jesus's time, the historical backround would not have changed.

for one example, look at how the Pharisees are mentioned from teh earlier gospels to the later ones...in the earlier ones, they wer not that powerful or as much of a threat to jesus and his sect,as that was the fact at the time of that gospels writing. in later gospels the Pharisees are very powerful and very much a threat, as that was the truth at the time of that gospel's writing.

check out Isaac osomov's secular look at the new teatament for further examples of such and a great secular look at the facts in the bible...

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Level 9

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#74117 Feb 6, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
If a theory was 100% certain, then it would be a fact and not a theory.
Woodtick57 is right, you don't understand science at all or you wouldn't have said what you just did...go back to school dummy

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#74118 Feb 6, 2013
Isaac Asimov's secular look at the new testament....

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#74119 Feb 6, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
If a theory was 100% certain, then it would be a fact and not a theory.
no theory is 100% certain. you do not seem to be graspong the concept of a scientific theory. youcould research the concept before trying to debunk it...that might help and make it less foolish looking...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#74120 Feb 6, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Bloody Norah, you really are that ignorant, aren't you?
NEWS FLASH:
The geological column absolutely proves the age of the Earth.
The fossil-record sequence absolutely proves evolution.
(Do NOT start blathering about abiogenesis - that's a whole different matter!)
i gave him the examples he asked for. when asked for examples to back up his thoughts...he ran away...

Level 1

Since: Feb 13

Riverside , CA

#74121 Feb 6, 2013
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
<quoted text>

Life resists change too much to make it work.
Quite the opposite actually, life is constantly changing and evolving all the time. This is way we have so many species and so many different races on this planet.

Evolution makes perfect logical since and its supported by the fossil record. If even one fossil was ever to be found out of order then yes evolution would be disproven but that has never and will never happen ..

So tell me because im Curious, What do you think created life as we know it today??

““You must not lose faith ”

Level 5

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#74122 Feb 6, 2013
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong.
It relies on millions of years, as matter of math. The current measurable changes in any species by mutation, and by mutations that survive to the next generation to bring a positive change that enhances survive and natural selection, takes not only MILLIONS OF YEARS, but BILLIONS.
The math does not lie.
But you do.
What is your source.(Your yapping so loud)
And what are your definitions for:
1)Current measurable changes.
2)mutation
3) mutations that survive to the next generation.
4) a positive change.
4 a) AND
5)enhances natural selection
6)survives natural selection.

7)that has would take not just million but billions of years.
8) what math would be applicable for an event that is current and spans eons?

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#74123 Feb 6, 2013
neutral observer wrote:
<quoted text>
Not national politics. The gospels were written by men trying to influence the church into going certain ways... so they made up things and put them into the mouth of Jesus.
Or maybe, what you read or heard were said by men trying to influence others into going certain political ways... so they made up things.

Have you really consider all thing?

Level 1

Since: Feb 13

Riverside , CA

#74124 Feb 6, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
If a theory was 100% certain, then it would be a fact and not a theory.
Gravity is a theory, why not walk off a building because after all its just a theory right... LOL

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Level 7

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#74125 Feb 6, 2013
Eloteman wrote:
God
?

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Level 7

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#74126 Feb 6, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>i gave him the examples he asked for. when asked for examples to back up his thoughts...he ran away...
One has noticed the tendency.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#74127 Feb 6, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>no theory is 100% certain. you do not seem to be graspong the concept of a scientific theory. youcould research the concept before trying to debunk it...that might help and make it less foolish looking...
Then show me a statement that theory is defined as 100% certainty.

If not, then you are foolish looking.

I'll be waiting.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#74128 Feb 6, 2013
trekx wrote:
<quoted text>
Gravity is a theory, why not walk off a building because after all its just a theory right... LOL
And it's one of our most messed up theories. totally incomplete. we can't even get it to jibe from classical to quantum physics (big to small for you, xxooxx)

still it works good enough for nasa to use our gravitational culculations to land a used up probe on a spinning, tumbling asteroid...freakin' amazing incomplete theory, that ol' bugger gravity!

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#74129 Feb 6, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
Then show me a statement that theory is defined as 100% certainty.
If not, then you are foolish looking.
I'll be waiting.
Your post makes no sense whatsoever. please try again.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#74130 Feb 6, 2013
trekx wrote:
<quoted text>
Gravity is a theory, why not walk off a building because after all its just a theory right... LOL
You confuse the "LAW" of gravity, with the "THEORY" of gravity, which are totally two different concepts.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Evolution Debate Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
News "Science vs. Religion: What Scientists Really T... (Jan '12) 6 min One way or another 48,531
Richard Dawkins tells the truth 3 hr Timmee 9
News Atheism, for Good Reason, Fears Questions (Jun '09) 3 hr Into The Night 23,503
News It's the Darwin crowd that lacks the facts in e... (Mar '09) 8 hr scientia potentia... 154,689
Science News (Sep '13) 9 hr _Susan_ 3,985
Might life have spontaneously have started mill... Sun The Northener 642
News Should evolution be taught in high school? (Feb '08) Dec 3 Aura Mytha 179,707
More from around the web