Evolution vs. Creation

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#72823 Jan 28, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Worship is not always necessary. It's about spiritual peace. I'd suggest go ask a buddhist but then you'd probably tell them how they're getting their own religion wrong anyway.
Shit!
Anything that has to do with spirituality, must always go with worship. Find out!

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#72825 Jan 28, 2013
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I think Science did fairly well in designing modern sewage treatment systems. Except for the chemistry, it's more of an engineering thing though.
Can human design, create or invent anything without the brain( God's handiwork)?

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#72826 Jan 28, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Quite educative. May God bless you...
There is genetic proof that characters from the Old Testament did actually exist.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Ar...

Jews are obsessive about tracing genetic history, genealogy. They are determined to be able to accurately identify their prophesied Messiah.

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#72827 Jan 28, 2013
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I agree. Hence you have no clue either. You can only pretend to know otherwise, just like all the fundie Muslims, Sikhs, Jews and Hindus.
As long as we are all humans, we are like pencils in the hands of the creator.

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#72828 Jan 28, 2013
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Only people and places, it's easy to write about something after it happens and include it myths, most myths contain real places, people, and even events, they're still myths. By your logic, Spiderman exists.
Go through the sites presented by Socci and shut up forever.

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#72829 Jan 28, 2013
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I did answer the question. You just didn't understand it.
Not that I'd expect you to understand quantum science when you can't even understand even basic scientific concepts.
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The specifics are not known yet. But you only assume a "who" is necessary. Since no "who" is necessary to make waves form in water it may be that the same applies to abiogenesis.
Clueless!
So, you are saying they just sprang up on their own?
This is one of the lies of the 21st century that have hitted the Guinness record.

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#72830 Jan 28, 2013
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So If I go wandering around Ohio, passing my peeps in the street and saying "How's it hanging, dude?", what are my odds for being remembered for two thousand years and having people do awful things in my name?
A good publicist for one thing, no one denies that Jesus had a good pr department, history shows that prophets were a dime a dozen in those days...but pr only takes you so far..........ask the latest you tube sensation...

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#72831 Jan 28, 2013
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There are no preceding events to quantum phenomena. Sorry.
Dodge!
Mr. Dodgie. Lol

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#72832 Jan 28, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text>As long as we are all humans, we are like pencils in the hands of the creator.
Only as long as you plan on being a slave to dubious historical character in a piece of fiction chucky..........

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#72833 Jan 28, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Can human design, create or invent anything without the brain( God's handiwork)?
I guess god was too busy throwing the non-believers into hell, subjugating women, killing egyptian first born males, and generally,making a mess of everything to get around to the sanitation we take for granted???

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#72834 Jan 28, 2013
EsoTeRiCxx827 wrote:
Thank you for posting this! I was really beginning to think that everyone on here was insane when reading the first few posts from the same people back and forth.
CLEARLY Darwin himself was not a racist and a very compassionate and forward thinking man for his time. As you said, it is not his fault nor the fault of the well intentioned, and well informed scientist's if racists misconstrue evolution to fit their repulsive and foolish agenda.
I would like to hear the argument as to how Creationism is a fact. What do you people mean by junk science? There is so much factual evidence proving the existence of evolution!! Take the fossils for example that have been found approx 2 million to 1.8 million years ago in Africa. Scientist's have found many fossils which prove that humans slowly evolved over millions of years from an ape-like ancestor. Not to mention the similarity in DNA composition.
To the person who denounced the validity of evolution due to a single organism not changing over millions of years...I don't even know how you thought that was relevant. You cannot argue that because organisms exist seemingly unchanged for millions of years that therefore NOTHING else evolves. If you understood the reason for evolution than you wouldn't have even made that argument.
Species evolve to better adapt and survive in their environment.(I.E. A species of birds existed on an island. Some of the birds had longer beaks which allowed them to eat more bugs. These birds were healthier and more well fed, and well adapter due to this genetic difference. Therefore the other birds died out and the longer beaked birds continued to mate and produce more until the species as a whole all had long beaks). If an organism is already perfectly equipped for its environment than why would evolution take place? Perhaps it did on a smaller level? But that has absolutely nothing to do with human evolution. You cannot discount all of the evidence staring you in the face. It is not some conspiracy as you seem to think.
Last, I just want to say that there is no reason you have to forfeit your religious beliefs due to scientific proof of evolution. The Bible is a collection of stories, plain and simple. Some based in truth, others as descriptive and imaginative stories. This is purely my opinion, but throughout time many people have altered the bible and completely removed entire sections of it dealing with Jesus's wife ( Mary Magdalene) and his mother ( Mary) because it was assumed this would make Jesus look weak and too human like if it was known that he traveled and spread the word of God with them. Mary Magdalene was referred to as a PROSTITUTE until the 1960's or 70's! I mean come on, you can't take everything written there LITERALLY. You can still believe that there is a higher power, but also believe that organisms and life on earth evolved through scientific process.
That's rather nicely put.

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#72835 Jan 28, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>There is genetic proof that characters from the Old Testament did actually exist.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Ar...
Jews are obsessive about tracing genetic history, genealogy. They are determined to be able to accurately identify their prophesied Messiah.
not quite so obsessive about researching palestinian land claims though..........

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#72836 Jan 28, 2013
lisawow wrote:
<quoted text>not quite so obsessive about researching palestinian land claims though..........
The U.N. started all this border dispute crap. Blame them if you need to place blame for the ongoing conflict there.

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#72837 Jan 28, 2013
Cybele wrote:
<quoted text>Who says aliens don't exist? I believe they have manipulated us here on this planet. We're not all products of just one handyman. lol
I don't! There could be more life out there nothing in the Bible refutes this.

However something finding us before we were transmitting anything is pretty tough odds. Lots of rocks out there.

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#72838 Jan 28, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Dodge!
Mr. Dodgie. Lol
Mr. Dodgie was one of my fave britcoms ever!!!!!!

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#72839 Jan 28, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>The U.N. started all this border dispute crap. Blame them if you need to place blame for the ongoing conflict there.
Israel uber alles...I get it.........blame,blame,blame, but never let truth get in the way of a good colonization..........

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#72840 Jan 28, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>The U.N. started all this border dispute crap. Blame them if you need to place blame for the ongoing conflict there.
I'm pretty sure if I just showed up where my ancestors used to live a few hundred years before and claimed it as my own I wouldn't be blaming the UN for my problems, maybe I should take the apartment next door by force as a buffer zone in case the peopledown the hall get uppity some time......
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#72841 Jan 28, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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"p 1,"? Do you mean page one of this thread? That was two and a half years ago. And I just went back and could not see any references to Exodus there.
Plus keep in mind that the fake "Prof"-X who started the thread off is a confirmed liar for Jesus who couldn't even get through one sentence without lying.
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So If I go wandering around Ohio, passing my peeps in the street and saying "How's it hanging, dude?", what are my odds for being remembered for two thousand years and having people do awful things in my name?
Slim. But then we do know that people invented other religions. And they also may have been based or partially based on people who existed. It doesn't matter whether the person was very charismatic and important or just some crazy street-preacher nobody. Or a literal nobody, as in total fiction. All someone needs is a valid political reason for an agenda to invent a religion. For the Christians, it was the Romans. For L. Ron Hubbard, it was to be respected and make money.
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#72843 Jan 28, 2013
EsoTeRiCxx827 wrote:
You cannot argue that because organisms exist seemingly unchanged for millions of years that therefore NOTHING else evolves.
Especially since that the fossils creationists claim to have "never changed" have in fact changed over time. Which is why the coelecanth (one of their favourites) of today is not the same species as millions of years ago. If nothing radical happens in their environment there may be little selection pressure to cause change.

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