Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 210113 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#72027 Jan 24, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text>You are the ignorant, dude.
Christianity do have sects but these sects don't worship a different God.
Christians focus is on God and Jesus christ.
Even the evolutionist ones?

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#72028 Jan 24, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Posted earlier by derek4
Last words of famous atheists:
Caesar Borgia: "While I lived, I provided for everything but death; now I must die, and am unprepared to die."
Thomas Hobbs political philosopher "I say again, if I had the whole world at my disposal, I would give it to live one day. I am about to take a leap into the dark."
Thomas Payne the leading atheistic writer in American colonies: "Stay with me, for God's sake; I cannot bear to be left alone , O Lord, help me! O God, what have I done to suffer so much? What will become of me hereafter? "I would give worlds if I had them, that The Age of Reason had never been published. 0 Lord, help me! Christ, help me!…No, don't leave; stay with me! Send even a child to stay with me; for I am on the edge of Hell here alone. If ever the Devil had an agent, I have been that one."
Sir Thomas Scott, Chancellor of England "Until this moment I thought there was neither a God nor a hell. Now I know and feel that there are both, and I am doomed to perdition by the just judgment of the Almighty."
David Hume, atheist philosopher famous for his philosophy of empiricism and skepticism of religion, he cried loud on his death bed "I am in flames!" It is said his "desperation was a horrible scene".
Napoleon Bonaparte, the French emperor, and who, like Adolf Hitler, brought death to millions to satisfy his greedy, power-mad, selfish ambitions for world conquest: "I die before my time, and my body will be given back to the earth. Such is the fate of him who has been called the great Napoleon. What an abyss between my deep misery and the eternal kingdom of Christ!”
Sir Francis Newport, the head of an English Atheist club to those gathered around his deathbed: "You need not tell me there is no God for I know there is one, and that I am in His presence! You need not tell me there is no hell. I feel myself already slipping. Wretches, cease your idle talk about there being hope for me! I know I am lost forever! Oh, that fire! Oh, the insufferable pangs of hell!…Oh, that I could lie for a thousand years upon the fire that is never quenched, to purchase the favor of God and be united to Him again. But it is a fruitless wish. Millions and millions of years will bring me no nearer the end of my torments than one poor hour. Oh, eternity, eternity forever and forever!, Oh, the insufferable pangs of Hell!”
I must say...that is very insightful.

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#72029 Jan 24, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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See, this is exactly what we're talking about. You can't claim to know anything about the Brits if you don't even know anything about Monty Python!
Sheesh!
:-/
Who cares. Welsh, Scottish etc.
I only care about the universal language of communication, English language.
Ponty python is not my headache. My stand is on the English language, the English people and the general Brits who are already influenced by the English people.

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#72030 Jan 24, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Sure we do.
You've never even addressed it since this thread started.
Sure, we're well aware of your opinion on the matter, but we don't care.(shrug)
Likewise.

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#72031 Jan 24, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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I haven't. I deny that it is more popular than the other religions.
You are eating your word, you liar...

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#72032 Jan 24, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Even the evolutionist ones?
Explain vividly?
Go straight to the point.

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#72033 Jan 24, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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here's what I wrote a few years ago...
Paradox
Life is a paradox.
Was it creation
Was it evolution
that started all there is?
Knowledge is death of faith
to soul-less disparate minds
meandering through life’s journey
without much certainty.
When all is faced
with the last breath,
God ain’t dead
to put them
out of fire and brimstone.
Life is a paradox...
and I have to deal
with the unknown.
"Knowledge is death of faith
to soul-less disparate minds"

Truly there is no paradox in realty, but only in the human mind.

There a argument that if one really did know "Truth" would they know it? One cannot rationalize Truth, because there will always be the possibility of being wrong(doubt). So the only way that Truth can be found is through faith.

“serious about music , love rap”

Since: Oct 12

Huntsville

#72034 Jan 24, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>Dunno any of 'em. Did a quick look up of Skillet and it didn't sound bad. I was thinking something a little more on these lines:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Yl65zn_tudIXX
That's traditional gospel or church music. I couldn't be sure but sounded like a hymn, but it wasn't bad personally not my flavor of music, I like rap and Christian type of music, except anything like heavy metal or screamo, because I like to keep my standards straight. Now I still like eminem but his lyrics hold just some nasty stuff, if you see what I'm saying

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Huntsville

#72035 Jan 24, 2013
Here in murica wrote:
Many people claim to be Christian but very few practice any form of it. When asked they will say they are a Christian. Yet very few can tell you very much about the teachings of Christ. Of course here in America we have a view of ourselves that is pretty hubris filled. We see ourselves as skinny and smart. If only it were true.
I'm 16 I can tell you what I've learned. If you want to know what the young people of my generation are doing.

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#72036 Jan 24, 2013
Here in murica wrote:
Many people claim to be Christian but very few practice any form of it. When asked they will say they are a Christian. Yet very few can tell you very much about the teachings of Christ. Of course here in America we have a view of ourselves that is pretty hubris filled. We see ourselves as skinny and smart. If only it were true.
"For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light"

There is only one requirement to being a Christian...and that is one of faith.

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#72037 Jan 24, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text>You are the ignorant, dude.
Christianity do have sects but these sects don't worship a different God.
Christians focus is on God and Jesus christ.
If you look at Science, and compare it to a religious hierarchy, it's structure is pretty much the same, right down to sects....such as Dianetics: The Church of Scientology.
bohart

White Pine, TN

#72038 Jan 24, 2013
anonymous wrote:
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Au contraire! They are educated, but in different things. "Things" have substance and make all the difference in the real world. Aesthetics are strictly the product of the particular world YOU live in.
Even Charles would make sense in an anarchistic world where people want order. After all, there can only be one king of the hill. His way is the way of the trinity, or as we in the U.S. might call it, a Mexican Standoff. He just doesn't realize it for what it is, and that's the beauty of it. Sooner or later, the ignorant get a piece of you. Even if you were one of the metaphorical gunslingers, you are always vulnerable to the up and coming because you can't keep your focus on that whole pointless pursuit of power.
So the question is, when you're "playing the game" how will that game invariably shape you? As Friedrich Nietzsche said, "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you."
Now, I COULD assume moral inversion on your part. We're coming close to the Depression era attitude where mobsters and rogue gunmen were made into heroes for defying the Revenuers, but those things pass and usually in a messy way. Moral inversion is anarchistic. No sane person really wants to be evil.
Just accept that the "Alexander the Great" fantasy you had as a kid isn't going to happen, and when you think about the cost, you're probably better off for it. You can't win this debate. You can only survive and adapt.
I don't believe people want to be evil,its just that humans are primarily evil in their nature, its what we are.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

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Seffner, FL

#72039 Jan 24, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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If you look at Science, and compare it to a religious hierarchy, it's structure is pretty much the same, right down to sects....such as Dianetics: The Church of Scientology.
Scientology has absolutely nothing to do with science. It's a cult started by a loony science fiction writer.

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Taizhou, China

#72040 Jan 24, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
You are a fundamentalist for Darwin. Lol
It's nice of you to offer to serve as The Dude's spokesman,
but I don't recall The Dude ever saying that Darwin had the last word.

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#72041 Jan 24, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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Scientology has absolutely nothing to do with science. It's a cult started by a loony science fiction writer.
I disagree...

It's methods are souly based on Science, and scientific concepts.

Dianetics Video: An Introduction to Dianetics

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#72042 Jan 24, 2013
Science falters as a religion, because it is godless, soulless, nihilistic and self serving.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

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Seffner, FL

#72043 Jan 24, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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I disagree...
It's methods are souly based on Science, and scientific concepts.
Dianetics Video: An Introduction to Dianetics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Dt9SyNpirdoXX
It is not.

If you think otherwise, your either know very little about them or you're already a member of the cult.

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#72044 Jan 24, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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If you look at Science, and compare it to a religious hierarchy, it's structure is pretty much the same, right down to sects....such as Dianetics: The Church of Scientology.
You even have the scientific missionaries here, trying to win converts....LOL

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Taizhou, China

#72046 Jan 24, 2013
xxxooxxx , have you heard the story of Xenu?
According to the founder of Scientology, Xenu was the emperor of 76 planets in 26 solar systems 75 million years ago.
His empire became overpopulated, so he pulled a sneaky trick.
He declared a census in which his citizens got injected with a knock-out drug.
He brought his comatose victims to our planet in space ships and lined them up around the mouths of volcanoes.
He had hydrogen bombs dropped in those volcanoes which created eruptions which killed those citizens.
When the souls of those citizens ascended in the air, he had their souls captured and subjected to a three-dimensional movie.
In this three-dimensional movie, they were indoctrinated with Christianity, Communism, and various other doctrines of which L. Ron Hubbard disapproved.
Those of us living on Earth today are reincarnations of those hapless citizens.
Xenu is still living today, but his henchmen staged a mutiny and chained him up.
He still chained up on another planet today.

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#72047 Jan 24, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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It is not.
If you think otherwise, your either know very little about them or you're already a member of the cult.
so you disagree with my statement that...

"It's methods are souly based on Science, and scientific concepts"

It's a Science cult...admit it.

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