Evolution vs. Creation

There are 20 comments on the Jan 6, 2011, Best of New Orleans story titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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#70811 Jan 13, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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I know you want to paint a picture that depicts heterosexual reproduction as something sacred. However, there are many people who can't take the responsibility of being a parent. So why can't gay couples take that responsibility instead by adopting a child they could nurture?
I see. But really it is not an ideal practice, it is sexual perversion.
A couple( man and woman) can decide not to give birth to children, instead they prefer adoption.
anonymous

Franklin, PA

#70812 Jan 13, 2013
Drew Smith wrote:
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Something doesn't have to be mentioned in the U.S. Constitution in order to be a right. And the U.S. Supreme Court has already declared marriage to be a right.
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Only if heterosexuality is also described as a medical condition.
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In other words, because of your homophobia, you automatically reject any scientific study that shows that children raised by same-sex parents turn out just as well as those raised by opposite-sex parents.
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And the unmarried are "unfairly taxed" in what way?
And while we're at it, what do you think about the *topic* of this thread? Or are you just here to spout off your homophobia?
You'd think that people would stay on topic, but no, they have to drone on and on with their same old rhetoric, even though they claim that they won't. I don't answer claims that I've dismissed before. You haven't introduced anything new. You're just dismissing everything that was stated already and re-reciting your name-calling big lie. Yep! Just like a Creationist!

So why do you hang out at an Evolution vs. Creationism thread? Interested in Science, looking to bond with science minded people or just projecting your own kind of "experimentation" onto others?

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#70813 Jan 13, 2013
Who decides whether or not it is "improper"?
Cybele wrote:
And yet you define what is anti-social in the forums.
The dictionary defines what "anti-social" means, and I gave an example of such behavior from this thread.

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#70814 Jan 13, 2013
Drew Smith wrote:
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Who decides whether or not it is "improper"?
Then what is the essence of men, women and children?
If men are going after men likewise women, how can there be continuity of human race?

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#70815 Jan 13, 2013
anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>My discussions never were within the grasp of your mind. Go find a corner to go practice parting the sea in.
You are again between the devil and the deep blue sea( dilemma).
anonymous

Franklin, PA

#70816 Jan 13, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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With that kind of mentality you will not find the truth. You just want to be an antagonist. That can be self-destructing. So if that's the route you want to take, by all means, be it. No one is stopping you. You still fill the void of life.
No, that's the opposite of scientific method. It kind of reminds me of the old "Planet of the Apes" TV show, where the ape insists that you must plow up the hill so you can give the horse a rest as you plow down the hill. First, the logic has no bearing on the second law of thermodynamics. Second, downhill furrows cause erosion.

Scientific method isn't about what feels good. It's one hundred percent absolutely about the provable. If the statistics favor something but it's not absolute, you can adjust your theory or refine your test, but you can't just ignore the exceptions and insist on something that may just be a manifestation of your own prejudices.
anonymous

Franklin, PA

#70817 Jan 13, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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I have tried. But it didn't make sense.
That's probably because we don't have all the answers.
anonymous

Franklin, PA

#70818 Jan 13, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> You are again between the devil and the deep blue sea( dilemma).
You are between a dog biscuit and bituminous coal.(utter nonsense!)

“what we think we become”

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#70819 Jan 13, 2013
anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>That's probably because we don't have all the answers.
That's why I keep searching...sigh.

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#70820 Jan 13, 2013
anonymous wrote:
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No, that's the opposite of scientific method. It kind of reminds me of the old "Planet of the Apes" TV show, where the ape insists that you must plow up the hill so you can give the horse a rest as you plow down the hill. First, the logic has no bearing on the second law of thermodynamics. Second, downhill furrows cause erosion.
Scientific method isn't about what feels good. It's one hundred percent absolutely about the provable. If the statistics favor something but it's not absolute, you can adjust your theory or refine your test, but you can't just ignore the exceptions and insist on something that may just be a manifestation of your own prejudices.
Until people are in my shoes, they won't understand my perspective. It's not about what feels good to me, it's what I can make sense out of what's right before me.

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#70821 Jan 13, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
Then what is the essence of men, women and children?
Being human.
Charles Idemi wrote:
If men are going after men likewise women, how can there be continuity of human race?
Because humanity is a *mixture* of straights and gays. Not every individual needs to procreate in order for the species to continue.

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#70822 Jan 13, 2013
Cybele wrote:
Until people are in my shoes, they won't understand my perspective. It's not about what feels good to me, it's what I can make sense out of what's right before me.
How do you *reliably* distinguish between what's "right before you" and a vivid imagination?
anonymous

Franklin, PA

#70823 Jan 13, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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Until people are in my shoes, they won't understand my perspective. It's not about what feels good to me, it's what I can make sense out of what's right before me.
The dreams thing? I have dreams all the time. They aren't mine. They're the #$%$^ that people feed me as if I wasn't looking their way. I don't think you'll ever be able to distinguish between the lies that people try to bait you with from their own subconscious fantasies and denial. None the less, you're no more likely to profit from your dreams than you are to win the lottery.

Just my cynical observation.

I've more or less stated this before. If you really were paying attention, you'd be dissecting people's words down to their minimalist values, pronouns, verbs and other "suggestive" things that snake oil types want you to believe in.

The real epiphany here is to accept how completely some people are social predators, and how many of them there are, and how many of them are in the places of power. They'll give you comfort when you're down just to steal your wallet. They pathologically don't have normal moral values, so don't just go wandering down dark allies looking for "truth".
sickofit

Blooming Prairie, MN

#70824 Jan 13, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Hmmm!
But come to think of it, how can people of the same sex be marriage partners?
That is ridiculous, how can they procreate or reproduce?
HAVEING KIDS IS NOT WHAT MARRIAGE IS ABOUT MORON....Being married is about two people becomeing partners..

NOW TAKE YOUR STONE AGE NAZI CULT AND STAY OUT OF OTHER PEOPLES BUSINESS...OK HITLER????????

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#70825 Jan 13, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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Until people are in my shoes, they won't understand my perspective. It's not about what feels good to me, it's what I can make sense out of what's right before me.
All you can do is try to communicate your perspective using the means available. I think you are trying to take us someplace, I am not always sure if you are finding the best words to convey us on that journey. These forums aren't always the best medium to do that either. It would be a distinct waste of time for anyone to try and dissect every word posted here for some hidden meaning, just as it is often difficult to find the right words to post.

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#70826 Jan 13, 2013
anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>The dreams thing? I have dreams all the time. They aren't mine. They're the #$%$^ that people feed me as if I wasn't looking their way. I don't think you'll ever be able to distinguish between the lies that people try to bait you with from their own subconscious fantasies and denial. None the less, you're no more likely to profit from your dreams than you are to win the lottery.
Just my cynical observation.
I've more or less stated this before. If you really were paying attention, you'd be dissecting people's words down to their minimalist values, pronouns, verbs and other "suggestive" things that snake oil types want you to believe in.
The real epiphany here is to accept how completely some people are social predators, and how many of them there are, and how many of them are in the places of power. They'll give you comfort when you're down just to steal your wallet. They pathologically don't have normal moral values, so don't just go wandering down dark allies looking for "truth".
Now you mention social predators who hold power in this society. Let's see how they are using their tools for their own benefit instead of mankind. Does that empower you? Are you demonizing them because their motives didn't serve your best interest? Perhaps that is your excuse for you to express your own prejudices. You ostracize people that you don't see fit in your imagined utopia. Who is dreaming now? I am not dreaming all the time, mind you. Most of the time I am just AWARE.

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#70827 Jan 13, 2013
Drew Smith wrote:
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How do you *reliably* distinguish between what's "right before you" and a vivid imagination?
I know when to trust my senses
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#70828 Jan 13, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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There is nothing wrong with someone believing God created it. What should concern Science is HOW God did it.
Why should that concern them? Since there is no more evidence for a "God" than there is of the Cosmic Sheep of dimension Zog. Since the hurdles for scientifically demonstrating both are EXACTLY the same, shouldn't science merely be concerned with how it all came about?

Best only to deal with more specifics only when evidence of those specifics come to light. Hypothesizing is good, but only if it be potentially scientific.

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#70829 Jan 13, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>All you can do is try to communicate your perspective using the means available. I think you are trying to take us someplace, I am not always sure if you are finding the best words to convey us on that journey. These forums aren't always the best medium to do that either. It would be a distinct waste of time for anyone to try and dissect every word posted here for some hidden meaning, just as it is often difficult to find the right words to post.
No I'm just going through the motions and going with the punches. The ebb and flow of life that is. And then I learned to roll with the punch and just go with the flow!

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#70830 Jan 13, 2013
How do you *reliably* distinguish between what's "right before you" and a vivid imagination?
Cybele wrote:
I know when to trust my senses
And you know this how?

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