Evolution vs. Creation

There are 20 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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anonymous

Franklin, PA

#69278 Dec 31, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Really? Explain how I am projecting, please.
You make assumptions that certain forms of behavior are universal. Everyone does it. It's not always true.

“what we think we become”

Level 5

Since: Aug 11

above and beyond

#69279 Dec 31, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
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And you got this pop psychology where?(I know many gay couples where each partner is attracted to someone who looks quite different from themselves.)
That's a different level of preference. Personality is another factor that makes one more or less attractive.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#69280 Dec 31, 2012
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>Get a clue, perv.
http://www.livescience.com/23500-why-men-love...
If nothing is sexual to you then why do you get off on wearing women's clothing?
I wear what is made for me. You should try the same thing.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#69281 Dec 31, 2012
anonymous wrote:
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You make assumptions that certain forms of behavior are universal. Everyone does it. It's not always true.
Specific reference to where I made such an assumption, please.
anonymous

Franklin, PA

#69282 Dec 31, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
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Is heterosexuality learned behavior?
To some degree, perhaps. After all, children are given about 12 years to mimic the adults around them, but at the same time, the mechanics of sex lead to choosing heterosexuality so really it's genetic too.

That may be the core reason why Christian conservatives don't want to see gays raising children. If it's their own children, it's nobody else's business, but I think it's a bit unfair to kids to bring them up in a politically charged environment before they are ready to make choices of their own.

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#69283 Dec 31, 2012
QuiteCrazy wrote:
<tippy toes in>mm.. I think homosexuality is an abnormality that though it exists in nature and we are part of it, it is still necessary for our "genetic" survival.
Perhaps someone hear recalls the experiment with horses I believe it was, left on an island to supposedly produce a superior race of horses. When they returned they found that the horses they had left no longer existed but small, horses like Sheffield's. Animals usually make it an omega in packs, no? If not killed and allowed to stay. But many are forced to become rogue if they survive their mothers.
As to morality, that is a different story. And I've known many heterosexuals to be narcissistic and egotistical. Personality development has yet to "scientifically" established: genetic or environment?
"abnormality that exists in nature"..have to concur..

“what we think we become”

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#69284 Dec 31, 2012
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>It is not genetic, it is learned behavior.
A learned behavior affects the genes and those genes are passed on. You pass on genes that is responsible for personality traits that that is affected by one's sexuality. I explained about mutation gene in previous pages in response to someone who mentioned it here.

Since: Jun 12

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#69285 Dec 31, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Really? Explain how I am projecting, please.
like I said everybody project...it's a by product of your conditioning(or programming if you prefer) as you develop from a baby.

it's an input output thing.

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#69286 Dec 31, 2012
Cybele wrote:
That's a different level of preference. Personality is another factor that makes one more or less attractive.
You didn't answer my question about where you got your pop psychology from.

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#69287 Dec 31, 2012
anonymous wrote:
I think it's a bit unfair to kids to bring them up in a politically charged environment before they are ready to make choices of their own.
So do you also think that it was unfair for interracial couples to raise children? After all, that was considered politically charged at one time, and in part of the United States, probably still is.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#69288 Dec 31, 2012
xxxooxxx wrote:
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like I said everybody project...it's a by product of your conditioning(or programming if you prefer) as you develop from a baby.
it's an input output thing.
I could agree that a lot of people project, but to say everyone does is a bold assertion. Bold assertions typically require bold evidence, I am simply pointing out that I have never once projected, at least not on here since it would be impossible to track down every single forum I am on and show those. So I asked for an example of me as a demonstration that saying "all" of anyone is a certain way is inaccurate, and such claims will always prove false. Stereotypes, such as the one "everyone projects," are never reliable, nor valid, assertions.

“what we think we become”

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#69289 Dec 31, 2012
anonymous wrote:
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Well, I don't think of the super-ego as one of Freud's better definitions. In that regard, I think he created discrete boundaries between the rational and the emotional just because he had his issues with drug use.
For my part, I'm not too large, and although there have been times in my life where I've been very athletic, I'm from a brainy family. It's personal for me to dislike macho behavior, but I genuinely find it boring too. That doesn't mean that I don't find an athletic physique attractive, I just don't feel that it's worth having prove my stuff to get!
Let's just say that at my age, I'm not interested in starting a family, blood pressure medicine may have cut back my urges a bit, and I'm not about to kid myself that I'm what the young gals are interested in! I have a romantic side, but I don't share it. Kids are punks and will over-think it anyway.
Someone will find you attractive no matter what your physical appearance is. We all have a personality that can be a turn-on or turn-off to others. Maybe you just don't want to look. We might lose the urge because you have satisfied your sexual desires by other means.

“what we think we become”

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Since: Aug 11

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#69290 Dec 31, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
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You didn't answer my question about where you got your pop psychology from.
In case you are in denial, experts collect data from real subjects. They get information from first-hand accounts and they make their own conclusions. I happen to be the subject of MY OWN experiment.

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Since: Jan 12

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#69291 Dec 31, 2012
Cybele wrote:
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A learned behavior affects the genes and those genes are passed on. You pass on genes that is responsible for personality traits that that is affected by one's sexuality. I explained about mutation gene in previous pages in response to someone who mentioned it here.
Are you stating that personality is inherited genetically? Are you serious?! I feel like you just pulled a rug out from under me. You realize you're telling me that are decisions influence our genetic make up it is the equivalent of saying that we are writing our own genetic code.

Impossible!

Just think of the mental illnesses that are not made by choices?!
That alone ...

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Since: Jan 12

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#69292 Dec 31, 2012
Attraction usually is visual. But it is not necessarily confided to that.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#69293 Dec 31, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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I could agree that a lot of people project, but to say everyone does is a bold assertion. Bold assertions typically require bold evidence, I am simply pointing out that I have never once projected, at least not on here since it would be impossible to track down every single forum I am on and show those. So I asked for an example of me as a demonstration that saying "all" of anyone is a certain way is inaccurate, and such claims will always prove false. Stereotypes, such as the one "everyone projects," are never reliable, nor valid, assertions.
You very statement is a projection of denial...lol

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#69294 Dec 31, 2012
You didn't answer my question about where you got your pop psychology from.
Cybele wrote:
In case you are in denial, experts collect data from real subjects. They get information from first-hand accounts and they make their own conclusions. I happen to be the subject of MY OWN experiment.
Were there any other subjects in your experiment? A set of data points of "one" isn't especially convincing.
anonymous

Franklin, PA

#69295 Dec 31, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
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So do you also think that it was unfair for interracial couples to raise children? After all, that was considered politically charged at one time, and in part of the United States, probably still is.
In a word, yes! There are many conditions by which I would be unwilling to raise a family. That would be one of them. Raising kids under the threat of Big Brother or an authoritarian church, as well.

It has nothing to do with approving of the relationship. It has to do with being honest about what you'll subject those kids to when they grew up trusting in you to protect them.
anonymous

Franklin, PA

#69296 Dec 31, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Specific reference to where I made such an assumption, please.
I'm not sure if you did. I'm just saying that all communication includes some projecting. You asked as if you were skeptical.

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#69297 Dec 31, 2012
anonymous wrote:
It has nothing to do with approving of the relationship. It has to do with being honest about what you'll subject those kids to when they grew up trusting in you to protect them.
If you spoke to those children today, do you think that they would condemn their parents for having them? Or compliment their parents on their bravery, for setting an example for future generations to follow? If people don't have the courage to take chances, how does change come about?

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