Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Don't have a dog?
Don't forget, we are in the human's world.
Dogs or other animals can never be compared to humans.

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1. Creationist predictions are continuing to be validated with the expectation that 100% of the genome likely to be functional. This validation comes after evolutionists shoved junk dna down creos throats as proof TOE was true, there was no designer and creos were idiots. Now they scurry off in shame, suggest TOE never could make a prediction around non coding dna but creos can clearly see just whom the idiots really are!
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketsc...

2. Creationists predictions are vestigial organs are continuing to be validated by evolutionists finding that these left over functionless organs do indeed have function. This validation comes after evolutionists found function in these organs and had to toddle off and redefine the definition of vestigial to reflect ‘a different’ function.
http://www.naturalnews.com/022914_appendix_gu...

3. Fossil evidence that is more in line with creationism then TOE. The Genesis account was the oldest account published that suggests the alignment of the fossil record from plant s to creatures of the sea, then land animals and lastly mankind. Evos were not the first to come up with this line up. Whales and birds are the only ones that evos have out of biblical alignment . Surprise, surprise they have been having trouble with these two ever since. Evos are still confused over whale bones found in strata dated to 290mya and have had to invent mythical theropods to wear a reversed hallux although not one single theropod ever found has modern avian feet. The data supports creationism and the woffle supports TOE.
http://www.ehow.com/list_7182299_fossils-foun...
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v417/n68...

4. Beneficial mutations have an overwhelmingly negative effect due to epistasis. All the recent data supports this. Clearly this is evidence in support of creationism and an organisms inability to limitlessly adapt over billions of years. Evos have come up with many theoretical assumptions to explain this in evolutionary terms and why TOE is not falsified. Hence the data supports creationism and the woffle supports TOE.
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/332/6034/11...
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/332/6034/11...

5. All data suggests the genome is deteriorating. Again this is a creationist support demonstrating that adaptation is limited. Again evos have to toddle off and come up with some story and convoluted hypothesis as to why a deteriorating genome does not falsify TOE. The data supports creationism and the woffle supports TOE.
http://www.plosbiology.org/article/info:doi/1...
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/...
http://www.naturalnews.com/021220_genetic_mod...

6. Evolutionary supports are derived from arbitrary and pick a box morphological and genomic homology that changes like the wind and biased algorithmic magic that is no better than any algorithmic magic a creationists can provide. This is supported by an evolutionary history of falsifications, instability and change.
http://www.nature.com/news/studies-slow-the-h...

Above is what supporting ones view looks like. You evos should try it sometime.

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Why don't you admit that you have a big atitude and so far have contributed nothing to this discussion at all and that includes your stupid backbone you tried to shove at me and failed miserably
The point is TOE has nothing to do with medicine and is not responsible for any medical advancements at all.
Toe is not a science. If surgery was based on TOE with all its instability and falsifications no one would survive.
You don't know much about the medical industry, that's clear as day. All vaccines are dependent on the ToE, all of them. Flu vaccines are the most common one as an example, the ToE allows the medical companies to predict which flues will be prevalent that year, and thus they can make the vaccine for those flues to avoid unnecessary vaccinations, which would lead to the vaccines working less effectively.

You never responded to one simple question: What is the important, life dependent, function of the gallbladder?

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Oh you mean how the majority of well credentialled researchers woffled on about about their junk dna, single celled LUCA, human knuckle walking ancestry, brain size to bipedalism, functionless vestigial organs etc and there were proven to be idiots.
The hot and obvious news for you dweebette is that you have woffled on with BS with not a shred of science to even challenge let alone refute me.
La la la is more applicable to idiots with big attitudes that cannot articulate an appropriate response. OH! That would be you!
You evos can't even mount an appropriate reply. It is like debating with year 9 students.
Dear ,dear, aren't we getting hot under the collar? Still spelling waffle wrongly I see - but you have proved the levels of your reading skills with your links. Notice that you do not address why no prestigious university, including Melbourne, Sydney and New South Wales teach creationism.

Top tip - calling DNA junk does not make it so - or is that too hard for you to comprehend?

So the vast majority of researchers don't agree with your view? Now there's a surprise - not! You have been given more than adequate evidence over these pages to refute the rubbish you post: indeed, you yourself have unwittingly provided it with several of the links you give (trouble is, you don't really understand them, do you?). Want to shut your eyes to it? Dig out - but don't expect us to try to educate you, two adages about horses (one concerning water, one concerning flogging) would seem applicable.

Dweebette? And you comment on anyone's maturity? Keep the laughs coming - you're a guinea a minute for the jokes. Btw, a tip on an argument: refuting a statement involves more than a "it's not me, it's you" approach - might work in a playground , but not very convincing for adults.

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1. Creationist predictions are continuing to be validated with the expectation that 100% of the genome likely to be functional.
So, what predictions does creationism offer for how to cure a disease? I mean, besides splashing goat's blood.

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I'm sure his advanced age had nothing to do with that at all.
Find out. Most of the causes of deaths in both the young, the middle aged and the old, are caused by bitterness, betrayal and frustration, etc.

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Above is what supporting ones view looks like. You evos should try it sometime.
No, this is what a selection of websites with articles written thereon look like. Mixture in there of those supporting evolution and fringe blogs with no empirical value. Not terribly good at this research lark, are you? Tsh, tsh, when you have learnt to read, you might then be able to work on your research skills.

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<quoted text> Find out. Most of the causes of deaths in both the young, the middle aged and the old, are caused by bitterness, betrayal and frustration, etc.
What utter balderdash. Most causes of death are disease, accident, old age and war. What a very strange person you are.

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Why don't you admit that you have a big atitude and so far have contributed nothing to this discussion at all and that includes your stupid backbone you tried to shove at me and failed miserably
The point is TOE has nothing to do with medicine and is not responsible for any medical advancements at all.
Toe is not a science. If surgery was based on TOE with all its instability and falsifications no one would survive.
Wonderful - more laughs. You really should go on the stage. Problem is that there, you hope people will laugh with you, rather than at you.

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Such tosh needs repeated reposting for humour value. The problem is that you really believe this!
The problem with you is that you are too simple to refute me.

That, lovey, is the proof in the pudding.

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Nope – look up the meaning
Your interpretation is irrelevant to the fact that faith is nothing more than belief, it’s in the mind, it’s not real and calling faith reality amounts to lying to yourself. Thank you for proving my point
Nope. You don't have a point.
The work of science is a work of faith. And we know that faith is something one is hoping for, but not yet seen. When that thing are finally seen, it becomes reality.
Inventions, technologies, etc, are some good examples.

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1. Creationist predictions are continuing to be validated with the expectation that 100% of the genome likely to be functional. This validation comes after evolutionists shoved junk dna down creos throats as proof TOE was true, there was no designer and creos were idiots. Now they scurry off in shame, suggest TOE never could make a prediction around non coding dna but creos can clearly see just whom the idiots really are!
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketsc...
2. Creationists predictions are vestigial organs are continuing to be validated by evolutionists finding that these left over functionless organs do indeed have function. This validation comes after evolutionists found function in these organs and had to toddle off and redefine the definition of vestigial to reflect ‘a different’ function.
http://www.naturalnews.com/022914_appendix_gu...
3. Fossil evidence that is more in line with creationism then TOE. The Genesis account was the oldest account published that suggests the alignment of the fossil record from plant s to creatures of the sea, then land animals and lastly mankind. Evos were not the first to come up with this line up. Whales and birds are the only ones that evos have out of biblical alignment . Surprise, surprise they have been having trouble with these two ever since. Evos are still confused over whale bones found in strata dated to 290mya and have had to invent mythical theropods to wear a reversed hallux although not one single theropod ever found has modern avian feet. The data supports creationism and the woffle supports TOE.
http://www.ehow.com/list_7182299_fossils-foun...
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v417/n68...
4. Beneficial mutations have an overwhelmingly negative effect due to epistasis. All the recent data supports this. Clearly this is evidence in support of creationism and an organisms inability to limitlessly adapt over billions of years. Evos have come up with many theoretical assumptions to explain this in evolutionary terms and why TOE is not falsified. Hence the data supports creationism and the woffle supports TOE.
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/332/6034/11...
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/332/6034/11...
5. All data suggests the genome is deteriorating. Again this is a creationist support demonstrating that adaptation is limited. Again evos have to toddle off and come up with some story and convoluted hypothesis as to why a deteriorating genome does not falsify TOE. The data supports creationism and the woffle supports TOE.
http://www.plosbiology.org/article/info:doi/1...
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/...
http://www.naturalnews.com/021220_genetic_mod...
6. Evolutionary supports are derived from arbitrary and pick a box morphological and genomic homology that changes like the wind and biased algorithmic magic that is no better than any algorithmic magic a creationists can provide. This is supported by an evolutionary history of falsifications, instability and change.
http://www.nature.com/news/studies-slow-the-h...
Above is what supporting ones view looks like. You evos should try it sometime.
I finally think you evos have realized that you cannot refute the above because it is irrefuteable. Now you are all in desperation mode.

The above post is based on factual data from your evolutionary reseachers and reflects the twoddle you have shoved at creos when in actual fact you were, and still are, peddling hubris.

How dare you delusionists suggest that we creos should accept any twoddle and flavour of the month these desperadoes come up with in blind faith, like you do?

You lot were simply parrotting your silly researchers and are still standing there with egg on your face with them. Congratulations!

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<quoted text>Don't forget, we are in the human's world.
Dogs or other animals can never be compared to humans.
And dogs can never be compared to bacteria. Your point?

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The problem with you is that you are too simple to refute me.
That, lovey, is the proof in the pudding.
Keep clinging on to your mantra, science refutes your view, not I. And the phrase is proof OF the pudding, not in, "lovey".

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<quoted text>Find out. Most of the causes of deaths in both the young, the middle aged and the old, are caused by bitterness, betrayal and frustration, etc.
Really? Show me an autopsy report to confirm this.

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<quoted text>Ofcourse, i do. People do imagine things they thought over, before going to bed. But there are many things one could not have had in mind, but he will definitely see them while dreaming or in revelation.
Yup. Brain cells firing, transferring information through biological process. Not evidence of a soul.

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<quoted text> Nope. You don't have a point.
The work of science is a work of faith. And we know that faith is something one is hoping for, but not yet seen. When that thing are finally seen, it becomes reality.
Inventions, technologies, etc, are some good examples.
Wrong. Faith is belief based, science is fact based. Inventions are based on experiment, trial and error, previous work. Faith is based on personal belief. If you cannot discriminate between the two, you have a problem.

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I finally think you evos have realized that you cannot refute the above because it is irrefuteable. Now you are all in desperation mode.
The above post is based on factual data from your evolutionary reseachers and reflects the twoddle you have shoved at creos when in actual fact you were, and still are, peddling hubris.
How dare you delusionists suggest that we creos should accept any twoddle and flavour of the month these desperadoes come up with in blind faith, like you do?
You lot were simply parrotting your silly researchers and are still standing there with egg on your face with them. Congratulations!
More humour - do stop it, I've already a stitch from laughing so much. Btw, still waiting for an answer to why none of the reputable universities world-wide teach creationism. Is it too difficult a question for you?

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I'm sure the power he gained from unifying the Christian church was just a bonus with no political intent.
Nothing political there. After all, emperiors before him were doing the otherwise. They were killing the christians.

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Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Nope. You don't have a point.
The work of science is a work of faith. And we know that faith is something one is hoping for, but not yet seen. When that thing are finally seen, it becomes reality.
Inventions, technologies, etc, are some good examples.
Technology was not advanced by faith, it was advanced by science. Science is a method of learning, not at all requiring faith. You'd know this if you knew a lick about what you're attempting to discredit.

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