Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 171788 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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#50847 Oct 7, 2012
Subduction Zone wrote:
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No Starky, a discussion based upon science, logic and evidence. If either side uses poor resources, bad logic, or shoddy evidence it should be pointed out by the other side.
I know, it is a very difficult task for creationists to take on. Most eventually admit that they are believing merely because they want to believe, not because there is any evidence supporting their side.
Also to be fair you need to state your beliefs and why you believe them. No one on our side is afraid to state what we believe. You make yourself look weak if you are not willing to admit what you believe in.
There has been no evidence produced.
No missing link.
Nothing.
To be fair, I have already stated my beliefs but you're looking for a specific religion to attack.
LOL
Faith is not a religion.
Evolution is a religion.
One is an action word (Faith)
One is a belief (Darwinism)

There is more proof of biblical events and actual people named in the Bible than there is of a fossilized missing link.
What you fail to understand is that God is the authority on all science. He is the ultimate scientist.
The only evolution came right after he put everything in motion.
Now, whether he used the exact words "Let there be light" or whether he said Hey everybody, check out this big bang I'm about to create, We may never know.
BuzzinFr0g

Honolulu, HI

#50848 Oct 7, 2012
President Starky wrote:
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You seem to make up your own interpretations of what others say as you go along.
Its like a law with a predetermined outcome depending on whether you follow that law, or break that law.
If you break that law, the law maker knows what will happen to you. You get to decide whether or not to break it.
You don't get to change the outcome if you do.
Free will?
I see. So God doesn't know the future, he's only got a checklist of all possible outcomes to all possible scenarios. That isn't omniscience. It's an incredibly easy claim to make.

“I am Sisyphus”

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#50849 Oct 7, 2012
President Starky wrote:
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You seem to make up your own interpretations of what others say as you go along.
Its like a law with a predetermined outcome depending on whether you follow that law, or break that law.
If you break that law, the law maker knows what will happen to you. You get to decide whether or not to break it.
You don't get to change the outcome if you do.
Free will?

You just contradicted yourself.

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#50850 Oct 7, 2012
President Starky wrote:
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There has been no evidence produced.
No missing link.
Nothing.
To be fair, I have already stated my beliefs but you're looking for a specific religion to attack.
LOL
Faith is not a religion.
Evolution is a religion.
One is an action word (Faith)
One is a belief (Darwinism)
There is more proof of biblical events and actual people named in the Bible than there is of a fossilized missing link.
What you fail to understand is that God is the authority on all science. He is the ultimate scientist.
The only evolution came right after he put everything in motion.
Now, whether he used the exact words "Let there be light" or whether he said Hey everybody, check out this big bang I'm about to create, We may never know.
Wrong. There has been tons of evidence. Your problem is that you do not know how to judge evidence properly.

First off "missing link" is a false term used by creationists. We have found over 20 fossil steps between modern man and the ancestor that broke off of the line that ended up with chimpanzees. Any one of those could be called a "missing link".

Faith is a part of religion. Religions are faith based. Evolution is not a religion it is based upon logic, science and evidence. Let's hear of some of your "biblical proof".

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#50851 Oct 7, 2012
President Starky wrote:
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There has been no evidence produced.


We know you have no evidence. You have perfectly evidenced your lack of evidence.
President Starky wrote:
<quoted text> No missing link.


What missing link? We have 24 of them.
President Starky wrote:
<quoted text>
Faith is not a religion.
Evolution is a religion.
One is an action word (Faith)
One is a belief (Darwinism)
There is more proof of biblical events and actual people named in the Bible than there is of a fossilized missing link.
What you fail to understand is that God is the authority on all science. He is the ultimate scientist.
The only evolution came right after he put everything in motion.
Now, whether he used the exact words "Let there be light" or whether he said Hey everybody, check out this big bang I'm about to create, We may never know.

The rest of this is just ignorance combined with steeped beliefs. Is this your attempt at engaging in rational conversation? It is better, but try talking with us instead of at us.

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#50852 Oct 7, 2012
Dogen wrote:
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20+ years working in the mental health field.
The anger is there. It is interesting, but not surprising, that you do not see it.
Let me guess, Psychology? LOL
I've probably forgotten more of that junk science than you've learned.
If you see anger in my posts, its all in your mind.
Get it?
"In your mind"

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#50853 Oct 7, 2012
Dogen wrote:
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He actually created Adam and Lilith in their (plural) image (whatever that means).
Eve was a replacement player.
More (Ancient aliens) History channel?
LOL

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#50854 Oct 7, 2012
Dogen wrote:
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You just contradicted yourself.
Not!

You just didn't comprehend.

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#50855 Oct 7, 2012
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Wrong. There has been tons of evidence. Your problem is that you do not know how to judge evidence properly.
First off "missing link" is a false term used by creationists. We have found over 20 fossil steps between modern man and the ancestor that broke off of the line that ended up with chimpanzees. Any one of those could be called a "missing link".
Faith is a part of religion. Religions are faith based. Evolution is not a religion it is based upon logic, science and evidence. Let's hear of some of your "biblical proof".
Atheism Darwinism are religions.
Faith is not a religion.

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#50856 Oct 7, 2012
Dogen wrote:
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We know you have no evidence. You have perfectly evidenced your lack of evidence.
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What missing link? We have 24 of them.
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The rest of this is just ignorance combined with steeped beliefs. Is this your attempt at engaging in rational conversation? It is better, but try talking with us instead of at us.
You have none.
You have bones with no proof that they are human ancestors.
No DNA.
Nothing.

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#50857 Oct 7, 2012
President Starky wrote:
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Atheism Darwinism are religions.
Faith is not a religion.
What is Darwinism? Is that a Boardist term? Properly speaking atheism is not a religion either. Is abstinence a sexual position?

And I did not say faith is a religion, I did not say that. It is part and parcel of religion. You can't have religion without faith. You can believe the theory of evolution without faith.

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#50858 Oct 7, 2012
President Starky wrote:
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You have none.
You have bones with no proof that they are human ancestors.
No DNA.
Nothing.
Again, you do not know the nature of evidence. We have bones and we have evidence that they are our ancestors.

Anyone who uses the word "proof" the way that you do is losing the debate. Science has no "proof" is has evidence, logic, and theories. That has taken us to the Moon and beyond. What has religion done for us?
anonymous

Franklin, PA

#50859 Oct 7, 2012
Patriot wrote:
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It will be...
I'll try to pencil it in on my calendar.
anonymous

Franklin, PA

#50860 Oct 7, 2012
President Starky wrote:
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Not!
You just didn't comprehend.
You just didn't say doodley! So you're just on this forum to troll, right?

As they say, put up or shut up.

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#50861 Oct 7, 2012
Subduction Zone wrote:
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What is Darwinism? Is that a Boardist term? Properly speaking atheism is not a religion either. Is abstinence a sexual position?
And I did not say faith is a religion, I did not say that. It is part and parcel of religion. You can't have religion without faith. You can believe the theory of evolution without faith.
How petty of you.
I type quickly and pay more attention to important things.(That would exclude you) LOL
A typo didn't change the meaning one iota, but your whining about it lowered you another notch on your LOL evolutionary chart.
Hahaha!
You can have faith without religion though.

Darwinism/atheism are religion without faith.
It is the worship of theory.

"Stuff's gettin better"
2012
anonymous

Franklin, PA

#50862 Oct 7, 2012
President Starky wrote:
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Nothing to cool off from.
I'm watching a football game, the teams I picked are winning and my discussion has been civil from the beginning.
I simply said that you are not my friend.
I choose my friends and not on Topix or facebook. lol
I am the one who has been threatened,(though I don't take threats seriously online or in person) It is you people who have resorted to petty insults.
LOL
You bother me about as much as ,well, nothing.
As I said, even your ignorance will be used for Gods glory....
"Stuff's gettin better"
2012
You've got strange idea on what is civil. Why don't you put your "communist" rubber stamp back in your pants? Along with the juvenile strutting around about how your ancestors aren't apes while others are.

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#50863 Oct 7, 2012
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Again, you do not know the nature of evidence. We have bones and we have evidence that they are our ancestors.
Anyone who uses the word "proof" the way that you do is losing the debate. Science has no "proof" is has evidence, logic, and theories. That has taken us to the Moon and beyond. What has religion done for us?
Yawn!
As I said Even your ignorance will be used for Gods glory.

LOL

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#50864 Oct 7, 2012
And we have evidence in DNA too. If you understood cladistics it would obvious. The closer related we are to another animal the more DNA we share. You need to Google search ERV's. Creationists have no explanation of those.

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#50865 Oct 7, 2012
President Starky wrote:
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How petty of you.
I type quickly and pay more attention to important things.(That would exclude you) LOL
A typo didn't change the meaning one iota, but your whining about it lowered you another notch on your LOL evolutionary chart.
Hahaha!
You can have faith without religion though.
Darwinism/atheism are religion without faith.
It is the worship of theory.
"Stuff's gettin better"
2012
I was not complaining about a typo. You used a strange term and I wondered what it was. So once again what is a "Darwinist"? Is that a Boardist term?
anonymous

Franklin, PA

#50866 Oct 7, 2012
President Starky wrote:
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A discussion where you decide what constitutes meaningful?
LOL
For some reason, nothing you have said thus far has been a challenge.
You can no more prove that man evolved from apes than I can prove that God put Man here.
So you go on and believe what you want and I'll do the same.
I don't need your permission or welcome to post my beliefs or opinions.
You are always free to disagree or to ignore my posts.
"Stuff's gettin better"
2012
So you're just here to post your opinions? Maybe a good idea would be to not quote anyone so they won't think you're addressing them with serious discussion. Just go ahead and post your silliness.

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