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#404 Jan 24, 2014
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And for proper understanding i would like to have the arvix comment page, discussing your contribution overthere.
I'm not even aware that arvix has a comment page.
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#405 Jan 24, 2014
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It would be nice if you gave a link to that particuar article in AJP,
If you have $4 to throw away, here you go: http://scitation.aip.org/content/aapt/journal...

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<quoted text> I don't think it's available for free online. You will have to visit your local university library instead.
Ah wonderfull since i moved from an university town to a small coastal town that is short on adequate facilities apart from catering to the marines.
Churches however by official numbers 53 and counting.
Access to decent knowledge: the web

I recall copying parts of one of my books and causing quite a stirr around the copy-machine of the local library. Title 'The bible as Myth ' by Finkelstein et al..
Since the only bookstore closed the library also serves as seller of their stock!

Alltogether not funny.

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#407 Jan 24, 2014
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<quoted text> I'm not even aware that arvix has a comment page.
Several, according to subject.
Just a bit rusty in finding access at the moment.

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#408 Jan 24, 2014
arxiv physics comment pages
https://www.google.nl/search...

http://arxivsorter.org/

Spelling it proper helps.:))

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#409 Jan 24, 2014
Not that open anymore:
http://arxivplus.org/dev/aplus.py...

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http://arxivsorter.org/

GEORGIA TECH PHYSICISTS PAPER SELECTED AS ONE OF
MOST IMPORTANT OPTICS PUBLICATIONS
The Optical Society of America selected a paper by Professor Rick Trebino and graduate student Pamela Bowlan
as one of the most important optics publications of 2009. A collaborative effort with Professor Peeter Saaris group
at the University of Tartu in Estonia, the paper reported measurements of the complete spatio-temporal electric
field of Bessel-X pulses for the first time. Bessel-X pulses are of great interest because they propagate unchanged
over large distances and therefore act like optical bullets. They have many applications, such as plasma generation,
light filamentation, imaging, and particle micromanipulation. Also, theory predicts that the electric field of a
Bessel-X pulse propagates faster than the speed of light in a vacuum.
Using the Trebino groups new ultrashort-laser-pulse measurement
technique, SEA TADPOLE, Pamela measured the pulses speed to be
1.00012c within 0.001% of the predicted value.
Left: The measured Bessel-X pulse amplitude vs. transverse position
(x) and time (t) at three different distances (z). Right: The corresponding
simulations. The white bar emphasizes the position of the pulse if it
traveled at the mere speed of light in vacuum.
Optics and Photonics News
December 2009

I think that was refuted by CERN-> trebino group

http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/11125516...

see also wiki faster-than-light

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#411 Jan 24, 2014
MAAT wrote:
http://arxivsorter.org/
GEORGIA TECH PHYSICISTS PAPER SELECTED AS ONE OF
MOST IMPORTANT OPTICS PUBLICATIONS
The Optical Society of America selected a paper by Professor Rick Trebino and graduate student Pamela Bowlan
as one of the most important optics publications of 2009. A collaborative effort with Professor Peeter Saaris group
at the University of Tartu in Estonia, the paper reported measurements of the complete spatio-temporal electric
field of Bessel-X pulses for the first time. Bessel-X pulses are of great interest because they propagate unchanged
over large distances and therefore act like optical bullets. They have many applications, such as plasma generation,
light filamentation, imaging, and particle micromanipulation. Also, theory predicts that the electric field of a
Bessel-X pulse propagates faster than the speed of light in a vacuum.
Using the Trebino groups new ultrashort-laser-pulse measurement
technique, SEA TADPOLE, Pamela measured the pulses speed to be
1.00012c within 0.001% of the predicted value.
Left: The measured Bessel-X pulse amplitude vs. transverse position
(x) and time (t) at three different distances (z). Right: The corresponding
simulations. The white bar emphasizes the position of the pulse if it
traveled at the mere speed of light in vacuum.
Optics and Photonics News
December 2009
I think that was refuted by CERN-> trebino group
http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/11125516...
see also wiki faster-than-light
Your article where CERN refuted that is dated June 2011. Then in Sept 2011 CERN says CERN scientists discover particle traveling faster than the speed of light, Einstein theory threatened.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/23/cern-scien...

Here is a list of a few that claim the same thing.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/faster-than-...

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#412 Jan 24, 2014
My bad. Here is the list that has a few.

http://www.bing.com/search...

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#413 Jan 24, 2014
MAAT wrote:
http://arxivsorter.org/
GEORGIA TECH PHYSICISTS PAPER SELECTED AS ONE OF
MOST IMPORTANT OPTICS PUBLICATIONS
The Optical Society of America selected a paper by Professor Rick Trebino and graduate student Pamela Bowlan
as one of the most important optics publications of 2009. A collaborative effort with Professor Peeter Saaris group
at the University of Tartu in Estonia, the paper reported measurements of the complete spatio-temporal electric
field of Bessel-X pulses for the first time. Bessel-X pulses are of great interest because they propagate unchanged
over large distances and therefore act like optical bullets. They have many applications, such as plasma generation,
light filamentation, imaging, and particle micromanipulation. Also, theory predicts that the electric field of a
Bessel-X pulse propagates faster than the speed of light in a vacuum.
Using the Trebino groups new ultrashort-laser-pulse measurement
technique, SEA TADPOLE, Pamela measured the pulses speed to be
1.00012c within 0.001% of the predicted value.
Left: The measured Bessel-X pulse amplitude vs. transverse position
(x) and time (t) at three different distances (z). Right: The corresponding
simulations. The white bar emphasizes the position of the pulse if it
traveled at the mere speed of light in vacuum.
Optics and Photonics News
December 2009
I think that was refuted by CERN-> trebino group
http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/11125516...
see also wiki faster-than-light
MATT my apologies. It is late and I read your article wrong. June 11, 2012 is your article. Which is newer than the one I linked. With that I am going to bed lol.

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Your article where CERN refuted that is dated June 2011. Then in Sept 2011 CERN says CERN scientists discover particle traveling faster than the speed of light, Einstein theory threatened.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/23/cern-scien...
Here is a list of a few that claim the same thing.
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/faster-than-...
Interesting.
first site comment:
Why are ppl talking here about 'travelling backwards in time'?
Take a closer look at the Lorentz transform... if the particle velocity is FTL then it's time component becomes an imaginary number, not just a negative real number. It's time vector becomes *perpendicular* to our own. That doesn't imply the particle is travelling BACKWARDS in time.

Somewhere on the wiki scholarly pages was a mention of muons being slightly different.

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MATT my apologies. It is late and I read your article wrong. June 11, 2012 is your article. Which is newer than the one I linked. With that I am going to bed lol.
Sleep well.

I'll go on looking into muon and whether they still actually carry information...on of those conditions for travelling faster than light.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faster-than-ligh...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muon

In the RossiHall experiment (1941), muons were used to observe the time dilation (or alternately, length contraction) predicted by special relativity, for the first time.

see the discussion on that one!

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#417 Jan 25, 2014
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<quoted text> Correct, since there is no fundamental scientific reason that miracles can't happen. Recall that my definition of a miracle is merely a fantastically improbable event.
The point being, genetic recovery is not miraculous nor fantastically improbable.

Its merely what one expects given the actual population genetics and a workable ratio and absolute number of beneficial to neutral to deleterious mutation rates.

C elegans has clearly survived for millions of years because it has them, as have all surviving lineages on the planet.

Your job as a mathematician is to develop a system that can encompass all the possible outcomes, a model that shows where each of the parameters would have to be set to accomplish this. If you fail, then the failure is in your model, not in reality.

Because reality is the master, not your model.

The job of the scientist is to then determine which of the workable variants of the model actually is found to apply in real living systems.

Your job is not to mathematize a failed hypothesis. But clearly this is the pointless task you have chosen. Try explaining what we observe rather than claiming what we observe cannot be true.

That's why men like Kimara and Kondrashov are way smarter than you. They understood which problem they had to solve! Intelligence is not just the ability to solve problems, but the understanding of which problem has to be solved.
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#418 Jan 25, 2014
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Your job as a mathematician is to develop a system that can encompass all the possible outcomes,
That's the job of all scientists in the Hilbert class. Thanks for understand that.

"The sciences do not try to explain, they hardly even try to interpret, they mainly make models. By a model is meant a mathematical construct which, with the addition of certain verbal interpretations, describes observed phenomena. The justification of such a mathematical construct is solely and precisely that it is expected to work." John von Neumann.
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The point being, genetic recovery is not miraculous nor fantastically improbable.
Its merely what one expects given the actual population genetics and a workable ratio and absolute number of beneficial to neutral to deleterious mutation rates.
Its clear that a steady stream of random copying errors can produce War and Peace from Shakespeares Hamlet but its not obvious that a human can be genetically engineered from a numbered sequence of creatures, beginning with a chimpanzee, such that the number of genetic differences from one creature to the next one in the sequence differs by less than 200 mutations, such that each creature is fertile and viable. Just try to prove it.

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<quoted text> Its clear that a steady stream of random copying errors can produce War and Peace from Shakespeares Hamlet but its not obvious that a human can be genetically engineered from a numbered sequence of creatures, beginning with a chimpanzee, such that the number of genetic differences from one creature to the next one in the sequence differs by less than 200 mutations, such that each creature is fertile and viable. Just try to prove it.
So your personal standard of proof for non-human to human evolution is: a generation by generation catalog of every relevant mutation occurring in the 300,000 odd generations between ourselves the common ancestor of the chimp and the human.

Not to be taken seriously. Laughable, in fact.

Science on the other hand makes predictions based on the theory that show what we should observe. Those predictions have been consistently vindicated for 150 years.

You have failed to make any useful predictions for your theory about what we should observe today that your theory explains better than evolution. Thus your theory is useless.

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#422 Jan 26, 2014
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<quoted text> That's the job of all scientists in the Hilbert class. Thanks for understand that.
"The sciences do not try to explain, they hardly even try to interpret, they mainly make models. By a model is meant a mathematical construct which, with the addition of certain verbal interpretations, describes observed phenomena. The justification of such a mathematical construct is solely and precisely that it is expected to work." John von Neumann.

Math demonstrates. Math does not explain or make predictions.

And may I remind you that you are a grade school teacher. Most H.S. graduates could do your job.

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#423 Jan 26, 2014
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<quoted text> Its clear that a steady stream of random copying errors can produce War and Peace from Shakespeares Hamlet but its not obvious that a human can be genetically engineered from a numbered sequence of creatures, beginning with a chimpanzee, such that the number of genetic differences from one creature to the next one in the sequence differs by less than 200 mutations, such that each creature is fertile and viable. Just try to prove it.

Every viable human being has about 150 point mutations that differ from parental DNA. So that is 150 per generation per person. Plenty of mutation shown in the literature.

Humans have been a very rapidly evolving creature till rather recently in historic time. Even just 40,000 years ago we were evolving at a pretty good clip.

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