A Trojan Horse for Creationism

A Trojan Horse for Creationism

There are 1536 comments on the Truthdig story from Mar 8, 2013, titled A Trojan Horse for Creationism. In it, Truthdig reports that:

I watched in shock the summer before my sophomore year of high school as my home state, Louisiana, passed a law that opened the door for the teaching of creationism.

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“I Am No One Else”

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#1557 May 27, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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and...most of evolution is an "Anti-God" project, and nothing more
Where in the theory of evolution does it state "any accepted evidence must be against the notion of a god?"
imagine2011

Southaven, MS

#1558 May 27, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Where in the theory of evolution does it state "any accepted evidence must be against the notion of a god?"
Anti-creation...Anti-ID

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Everett, WA

#1559 May 27, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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Anti-creation...Anti-ID
ID and creationism can be demonstrated to be nonsense. There are no serious scientists that support these ideas.

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

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#1560 May 28, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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Anti-creation...Anti-ID
Anti-creation + Anti-ID = Anti-Stupidity

“I Am No One Else”

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#1561 May 28, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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Anti-creation...Anti-ID
You did not answer the question:

Where in the theory of evolution does it state "any accepted evidence must be against the notion of a god?"
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#1562 May 28, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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You did not answer the question:
Where in the theory of evolution does it state "any accepted evidence must be against the notion of a god?"
And that's the thing - it doesn't. Oh, there's a scientist here, a philosopher there, on BOTH sides of the theological divide who are happy to weigh in with their theological opinions on the subject. But the actual theory itself?

Makes no theological claims at all. Just like weather or gravity.

That's why many religious people, Christians included, also accept evolution. For religious folk it's just a question of whether or not you want to deny reality (and in turn limit your creator) for the sake of your faith. And that's what fundies do - place limits on God because some old book which says the Earth is flat is different from reality.

And in Muggins 2011's case here, it's his job to lie for Jesus because even he knows that his theology is BS but can't bear to deal with the fact that not everything his mommy told him wasn't true.

Otherwise he'd have nothing to say.

“I Am No One Else”

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#1563 May 28, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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And that's the thing - it doesn't. Oh, there's a scientist here, a philosopher there, on BOTH sides of the theological divide who are happy to weigh in with their theological opinions on the subject. But the actual theory itself?
Makes no theological claims at all. Just like weather or gravity.
That's why many religious people, Christians included, also accept evolution. For religious folk it's just a question of whether or not you want to deny reality (and in turn limit your creator) for the sake of your faith. And that's what fundies do - place limits on God because some old book which says the Earth is flat is different from reality.
And in Muggins 2011's case here, it's his job to lie for Jesus because even he knows that his theology is BS but can't bear to deal with the fact that not everything his mommy told him wasn't true.
Otherwise he'd have nothing to say.
Yes, but I am not posting for his benefit, simply for the benefit of future generations so they do not think us all such fools. ;)
imagine2011

Southaven, MS

#1564 May 28, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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You did not answer the question:
Where in the theory of evolution does it state "any accepted evidence must be against the notion of a god?"
Apes were never created in the image of God, only humans.

TOE believes that humans were once apes (or possilbe still are???).

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#1565 May 28, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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Apes were never created in the image of God, only humans.
TOE believes that humans were once apes (or possilbe still are???).
People were not "created". We evolved. And yes, technically we are still apes.

One more time, what evidence do you have that supports your belief?

We have more than enough evidence for ours.

“I Am No One Else”

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#1566 May 28, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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Apes were never created in the image of God, only humans.
TOE believes that humans were once apes (or possilbe still are???).
Presupposition, you are assuming that your assertion of there being a god is fact without providing evidence to support that. Thus, your entire point here is irrelevant. Humans are apes, we evolved from the same line as other apes as well as chimpanzees and monkeys.
readingalong

Guilford, CT

#1567 Jun 6, 2013
Say the Truth wrote:
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Larry, I retract my assertion that you are a sheep. In fact, you are a DOUCHEBAG. A self-important libtard, a Kool Aid drinking DOUCHEBAG.
There, I SAID IT!
Well, that certainly is quite a "Christian" attitude if I ever saw one!!- NOT!- Although, I guess you figure you can just say what you want and then ask for forgiveness, huh?

You do yourself and "your god" a disservice by speaking with such an ugly and bigoted tongue. You should feel shame and humility at this behavior if you are truly, in your heart, a man of Christ.

Franky, it makes you unbelievable and impossible to respect or take seriously.

Go read your book and let the grown ups answer the difficult questions. They are the ones that actually WRITE books instead of just being indocrinated.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#1568 Jun 6, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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Apes were never created in the image of God, only humans.
TOE believes that humans were once apes (or possilbe still are???).
Yes, humans ARE apes. Therefore your god is also an ape.

And even better, it was a creationist who pointed it out.

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#1570 Jun 6, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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Apes were never created in the image of God, only humans.
TOE believes that humans were once apes (or possilbe still are???).
Do you really believe that the Lord and Creator of time, space, the universe, and Everything, actually has a real physical shape like a human being? Wow. Just wow.
imagine2011

Southaven, MS

#1571 Jun 6, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
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Do you really believe that the Lord and Creator of time, space, the universe, and Everything, actually has a real physical shape like a human being? Wow. Just wow.
Being created in the image of God means knowing good and evil, having a spirit of one or the other, worshipping satan or God, housing either the Holy Spirit or not.

A spirit is just like the wind, invisible and its direction is unknown to man.

“I Am No One Else”

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#1572 Jun 6, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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Being created in the image of God means knowing good and evil, having a spirit of one or the other, worshipping satan or God, housing either the Holy Spirit or not.
A spirit is just like the wind, invisible and its direction is unknown to man.
So then the bibles are all wrong. So if they're just making it up, and you're just making it up, why should anyone listen to either?
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#1573 Jun 6, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
Being created in the image of God means knowing good and evil having a spirit of one or the other, worshipping satan or God, housing either the Holy Spirit or not.
No it isn't, as Adam and Eve didn't have that knowledge until they ate from the tree. Plus on top of THAT, the talking lizard certainly knew the difference between good and evil, and had (allegedly) chose the latter. Quite obviously talking lizards are NOT the image of men in any way except perhaps for speech-capable vocal chords.

If you were right this would render the whole story about the tree moot.
imagine2011 wrote:
A spirit is just like the wind, invisible and its direction is unknown to man.
And that includes you. That is why no matter how much you carry on with your make-believe moral high-ground you are in every bit as much danger as we are. Which makes your threats of eternal torment doubly ironic.

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