A Trojan Horse for Creationism

Mar 8, 2013 Full story: Truthdig 1,536

I watched in shock the summer before my sophomore year of high school as my home state, Louisiana, passed a law that opened the door for the teaching of creationism.

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Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#1294 Mar 17, 2013
His-truth wrote:
pass on their genes .. an agenda
the animal must east more food .. the plan
Only if you NEED to read that sort of intention in after the fact because Mummy and Daddy and Pastor Billy Bob have programmed you to believe that their rigid, literal, Proty fundamentalist interpretation of the BuyBull is "The Truth" and therefore all of science for the past 150 years must be wrong and a demonic conspiracy, etc. etc.
His-truth wrote:
to survive and in hard times .. a recognition of environment
No conscious recognition at all. They either live and thrive ...... or die off.
His-truth wrote:
Smallness may be selected .. oops!! you tripped again
Explained above. Natural selection is not the same as conscious human selection.
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#1295 Mar 17, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
And H-t has dipped into the sacramental wine again.
Poor drug addled fool.
Naw, he's a Ptory fundamentalist Catholic taunter. Wouldn't be caught dead near any sacramental wine --'cuz Pastor Billy Bob has told him the Cathlicks are not real Christians and are "of the Devil!"
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#1296 Mar 17, 2013
Not "Ptory" but "Proty," as in Protestant.:)

“the end-times is now”

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#1297 Mar 17, 2013
"but it was not the origin of complex life" .. so what was was the origin

"which have relatively complex cells" .. complex indeed ... even more complex than Morse code ?????

"Stromatolites show evidence of microbial life" ... life ??.. now were talking DNA

How did new biochemical pathways .. which involve multiple enzymes working together in sequence .. originate ?... Every pathway and nano-machine requires multiple protein/enzyme components to work ... How did lucky accidents create even one of the components .. let alone 10 or 20 or 30 at the same time .. often in a necessary programmed sequence ... Evolutionary biochemist Franklin Harold wrote ..“we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical or cellular system .. only a variety of wishful speculations

http://creation.com/design-in-living-organism... .. Design in living organisms (motors: ATP synthase)(includes animation)

http://creation.com/genesis-unleashed... .. Video

Since: Aug 10

Buffalo, NY

#1298 Mar 17, 2013
His-truth wrote:
pass on their genes .. an agenda
the animal must east more food .. the plan
to survive and in hard times .. a recognition of environment
Smallness may be selected .. oops!! you tripped again
before they mate ... desire ??.. oh yes, the desire
now .. apply all of this to a bag of "natural" dead hammers
All mof which is completely off topic.

Why should this be taught in our public schools?

Coward!

“the end-times is now”

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#1299 Mar 17, 2013
FFS- wrote:
Why should this be taught in our public schools?.. Coward!
FFS = skeerd of thought / typical .. especially thought that contradicts FFS's religion .. you know .. that non-religion of only "tolerant" thought ... psych !!!!!

“the end-times is now”

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#1300 Mar 17, 2013
How did blind chemistry create mind / intelligence .. meaning .. altruism and morality ?... If everything evolved .. and we invented God .. as per evolutionary teaching ... what purpose or meaning is there to human life ?... Should students be learning nihilism (life is meaningless) in science classes ?

http://creation.com/gk-chesterton-darwi ... ght-itself .. G.K. Chesterton: Darwinism is ‘An attack upon thought itself’

http://creation.com/genesis-unleashed... ... ziDQqF4FJM .. Video
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#1301 Mar 17, 2013
His-truth wrote:
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FFS = skeerd of thought / typical .. especially thought that contradicts FFS's religion .. you know .. that non-religion of only "tolerant" thought ... psych !!!!!
No, if it's stupid and irrational and also NOT SCIENCE, why in hell would we be "skeerd" of teaching your Christian pseudo-science nonsense in a public school SCIENCE class?

Even a hillbilly moron like you should be able to figure that one out!
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#1302 Mar 17, 2013
His-truth wrote:
How did blind chemistry create mind / intelligence .. meaning .. altruism and morality ?.
It didn't consciously do that. No one says it did.

Altruism evolved and those who had the particular set of genes that tended to make them less violent and more cooperative lived longer and naturally formed social groups better, thus spreading THAT SET OF GENEDS gradually throughout humanity.
His-truth wrote:
If everything evolved .. and we invented God .. as per evolutionary teaching ... what purpose or meaning is there to human life ?
Purpose and meaning are questions for philosophy (or for your ignorant hillbilly fundie churches), NOT FOR SCIENCE.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#1304 Mar 17, 2013
His-truth wrote:
How did blind chemistry create mind / intelligence .. meaning .. altruism and morality ?... If everything evolved .. and we invented God .. as per evolutionary teaching ... what purpose or meaning is there to human life ?... Should students be learning nihilism (life is meaningless) in science classes ?
http://creation.com/gk-chesterton-darwi ... ght-itself .. G.K. Chesterton: Darwinism is ‘An attack upon thought itself’
http://creation.com/genesis-unleashed... ... ziDQqF4FJM .. Video
where did you get the idea there has to be a purpose or meaning to human life?

can't you make your own meaning and purpose? do you have to be nannied through your own existence? that must be a horrid life...

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#1305 Mar 17, 2013
Gillette wrote:
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Naw, he's a Ptory fundamentalist Catholic taunter. Wouldn't be caught dead near any sacramental wine --'cuz Pastor Billy Bob has told him the Cathlicks are not real Christians and are "of the Devil!"
Well he is on some mind altering substance. By the symptoms either PCP or methamphetamines. Of course he does seem to go to sleep at night so that contraindicates those two.

Hmm, do any experts on drug abuse have any idea what H-t is on?

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#1306 Mar 17, 2013
H-truth, I already linked a video at least once that would answer your questions.

Why didn't you watch it?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#1307 Mar 17, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
H-truth, I already linked a video at least once that would answer your questions.
Why didn't you watch it?
Fear.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#1308 Mar 17, 2013
His-truth wrote:
<quoted text>
I see no evidence you're ready kitten .. maybe some other time
I've been ready since page 1. You haven't. And you eventually broke down and broke your own rules and ended up preaching, just as I predicted.

Now all you're on is a great big spam/preach-fest because you're incapable of having an honest discussion and don't even understand anything presented by either side anyway.(shrug)

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#1309 Mar 17, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
Well he is on some mind altering substance. By the symptoms either PCP or methamphetamines. Of course he does seem to go to sleep at night so that contraindicates those two.
Hmm, do any experts on drug abuse have any idea what H-t is on?
i have used pretty much every drug out there. this is a clear case of cult induction; the refusal to acknowledge truths before their very eyes, the open lying, the fanatical adherence to doctrine.

i have been with seriously effed up minds from all kinds of drugs yet it rarely compares to the damage inflicted by cults. even meth addicts on their last legs have some level of independent thought...
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#1310 Mar 17, 2013
His-truth wrote:
"but it was not the origin of complex life" .. so what was was the origin
No one knows for certain yet, but we are getting very, very close with biochemical abiogenesis. Certainly no evidence of your a__hole Torturer Jesus saying "Poof!" one day 6000 years ago. LOL!
His-truth wrote:
"
How did new biochemical pathways .. which involve multiple enzymes working together in sequence .. originate ?... Every pathway and nano-machine requires multiple protein/enzyme components to work ... How did lucky accidents create even one of the components ..
For the ONE HUNDREDTH TIME, the laws of chemistry are not random or blind chance.
His-truth wrote:
let alone 10 or 20 or 30 at the same time .. often in a necessary programmed sequence
Only "necessary" if you are looking back on it and assuming that was the only possible outcome and assuming ti HAD TO HAPPEN -- one of which is true.
His-truth wrote:
"Evolutionary biochemist Franklin Harold wrote ..“we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical or cellular system .. only a variety of wishful speculations
And Harold is a confirmed evolutionist (as are virtually ALL scientists in the field") and this is yet another lying Christian quote-mine.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#1311 Mar 17, 2013
His-truth wrote:
no ... evolution is a religion
Why is a fundamentally religious idea .. a dogmatic belief system that fails to explain the evidence .. taught in science classes ?.... Karl Popper .. famous philosopher of science .. said ..“Darwinism is not a testable scientific theory .. but a metaphysical [religious] research programme" ... Michael Ruse .. evolutionist science philosopher admitted ..“Evolution is a religion .. This was true of evolution in the beginning .. and it is true of evolution still today”.... If “you can’t teach religion in science classes”.... why is evolution taught ?
It's taught because it's science that works. Popper also disagrees with you, but you didn't know that because you get everything from liars for Jesus. Also philosophy isn't relevant to science. It was perhaps once an important stepping stone to us eventually ending up with a working scientific method. Today it's just wankers babbling about BS that they can never prove.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#1312 Mar 17, 2013
His-truth wrote:
<quoted text>
........ a process that guides ??
Yup. If you step off the edge of a building a natural process will guide you to the ground. Unless you happen to be travelling upwards at minimum escape velocity.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#1313 Mar 17, 2013
His-truth wrote:
So what do you want to know about natural selection?.. yeah, like how's that work concerning the very first living cell ... you know .. the one that is triune ... DNA: the language of life .. like how's that just all kina "fall-together" .. no intelligent process .... in other words ... How did the DNA code originate?.. The code is a sophisticated language system with letters and words where the meaning of the words is unrelated to the chemical properties of the letters .. just as the information on this page is not a product of the chemical properties of the ink (or pixels on a screen)... What other coding system has existed without intelligent design?.. How did the DNA coding system arise without it being created?

The genetic information code points to an intelligent source
What code? How did it arise with IDC?

Keep dodging, skippy.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#1314 Mar 17, 2013
His-truth wrote:
The faith needed to believe that a code system spontaneously came into being is far fetched, but the concept that ‘matter’ developed a ‘mind’ capable of understanding it goes beyond faith and into the realm of fantasy.
False. Matter brings forth mind every day. It's called biological reproduction. We have no trouble with you arguing against reality.

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