The problem of evil and hate

Oct 20, 2013 Full story: The Gleaner 386

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able but not willing? Then he is malevolent.

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#41 Oct 29, 2013
Apostle wrote:
Those that deny the existence of God and do not accept Jesus Christ as the Saviour are in danger of eternal damnation and Hellfire. Get on your knees right now, fold your hands, and bow your head with eyes closed and humbly ask His divine forgiveness. O ye wicked blasphemers!
There's no such thing as god and we pity your mental illness.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#42 Oct 29, 2013
Apostle wrote:
Those that deny the existence of God and do not accept Jesus Christ as the Saviour are in danger of eternal damnation and Hellfire. Get on your knees right now, fold your hands, and bow your head with eyes closed and humbly ask His divine forgiveness. O ye wicked blasphemers!
The koran says that all who do not submit to the will of allah go to hell. The reason you do not hear that and run out to convert to islam is the same reason I find your threat utterly unconvincing.
Far Away

Anchorage, AK

#43 Oct 29, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
The burden of proof lies upon theist and not atheists, stupid. How many times does this have to be drilling to you? you agnostic troll.
Why do atheists care so much what others believe and put so much energy into their inflammatory speech toward and about believers? It's the universal enigma among atheists.

<another agnostic>

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#44 Oct 29, 2013
Amused wrote:
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The koran says that all who do not submit to the will of allah go to hell. The reason you do not hear that and run out to convert to islam is the same reason I find your threat utterly unconvincing.
same god, different sect of the abrahamic cult...
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#45 Oct 29, 2013
Apostle wrote:
Those that deny the existence of God and do not accept Jesus Christ as the Saviour are in danger of eternal damnation and Hellfire. Get on your knees right now, fold your hands, and bow your head with eyes closed and humbly ask His divine forgiveness. O ye wicked blasphemers!
What for? Who are you again?
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#46 Oct 29, 2013
Apostle wrote:
Those that deny the existence of God and do not accept Jesus Christ as the Saviour are in danger of eternal damnation and Hellfire. Get on your knees right now, fold your hands, and bow your head with eyes closed and humbly ask His divine forgiveness. O ye wicked blasphemers!
Those that deny the existence of Odin are in danger of eternal damnation and being used as target practice for Thor's mighty hammer, Mjolnir. Get on your knees right now, fold your hands, and bow your head with eyes closed and humbly ask His divine forgiveness. O ye wicked blasphemers!
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#47 Oct 29, 2013
Far Away wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do atheists care so much what others believe and put so much energy into their inflammatory speech toward and about believers? It's the universal enigma among atheists.
<another agnostic>
Why do creationists care so much what others believe and put so much energy into their inflammatory speech toward and about non-believers? It's the universal enigma among theists.

<another agnostic>

BURN IN HELL YOU VILE EVIL NON-BELIEVING SCUM!!! Jesus loves you Amen.

“Maccullochella macquariensis”

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Melbourne, Australia

#48 Oct 29, 2013
Apostle wrote:
Those that deny the existence of God and do not accept Jesus Christ as the Saviour are in danger of eternal damnation and Hellfire. Get on your knees right now, fold your hands, and bow your head with eyes closed and humbly ask His divine forgiveness. O ye wicked blasphemers!
OH nose! Another fundie has threatened us with eternal hellfire. What will we do?

Pity there's not the slightest shred of evidence that such a thing actually exists, whilst there is plenty of evidence that it was invented by the church during the middle ages to give them something to scare the ignorant populace to increase the church's temporal power...

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

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Earth,TX

#49 Oct 29, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
"I would say to the House, as I said to those who have joined this Government, I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat. We have before us an ordeal of the most grievous kind. We have before us many long months of toil and struggle.
"You ask what is our policy. I will say, it is to wage war with all our might, with all the strength that God can give us, to wage war against a monstrous tyranny never surpassed in the dark, lamentable catalogue of human crime.
Those words just don't ring true, coming from you. Maybe Mr. Churchill never meant for them to be used for your purposes

“The strength of science is”

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founded in facts.

#50 Oct 29, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do creationists care so much what others believe and put so much energy into their inflammatory speech toward and about non-believers? It's the universal enigma among theists.
<another agnostic>
BURN IN HELL YOU VILE EVIL NON-BELIEVING SCUM!!! Jesus loves you Amen.
That last part caused coke to blow out my nose. Thought I was going drown or die laughing.

“too hard to handle”

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#51 Oct 29, 2013
I'm sorry, but WE are the source of evil and hate, god isn't the source of that. Evil and hate are the consequences of our actions and stupidity. Since god is not the source of it why think he should be responsible for preventing it? We are fully capable of avoiding hate and evil.

“too hard to handle”

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butler, pa

#52 Oct 29, 2013
I just have one point to make. If you are an athiest, why even bother with the christian concept of evil? If all it is is some made up construct, then " evil" does not even exist. Why even bother with it.

“HATRED EATS THE SOUL OF”

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THE HATER -- NOT THE HATED

#53 Oct 29, 2013
superwilly wrote:
I'm sorry, but WE are the source of evil and hate, god isn't the source of that. Evil and hate are the consequences of our actions and stupidity. Since god is not the source of it why think he should be responsible for preventing it? We are fully capable of avoiding hate and evil.
I agree. Evil and hate are human nature. I may be wrong but I think we are the only species that will kill others species, even our own species just out of hate and/or meanness and sometimes for fun. Others species only kill to survive, to protect their self, to protect their pride/pack etc etc or to protect their territory.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#54 Oct 29, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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I agree. Evil and hate are human nature. I may be wrong but I think we are the only species that will kill others species, even our own species just out of hate and/or meanness and sometimes for fun. Others species only kill to survive, to protect their self, to protect their pride/pack etc etc or to protect their territory.
the cat "playing" with the mouse till it's dead didn't come to your teeny weeny little mind?

sheesh!

“HATRED EATS THE SOUL OF”

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THE HATER -- NOT THE HATED

#55 Oct 29, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>the cat "playing" with the mouse till it's dead didn't come to your teeny weeny little mind?
sheesh!
Cats by their very nature are hunter/predators. They play with there food for several reasons.
1. the "pouncing" and "batting" cats do is to wear their pray down and tire them out.
2. The same way cats play with string or other cat toys has something to do with their predatory perception and curiosity.
3. Letting them go only to catch them again is a way of honing their skills. They hunt by natural instincts.
4. A well fed cat sometimes won't eat the mouse because we humans are feeding them but being a predator they hunt to hone their skills for when we don't feed them so they won't go hungry.

You just keep making your self look dumber and dumber.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#56 Oct 29, 2013
replaytime wrote:
<quoted text>
Cats by their very nature are hunter/predators. They play with there food for several reasons.
1. the "pouncing" and "batting" cats do is to wear their pray down and tire them out.
2. The same way cats play with string or other cat toys has something to do with their predatory perception and curiosity.
3. Letting them go only to catch them again is a way of honing their skills. They hunt by natural instincts.
4. A well fed cat sometimes won't eat the mouse because we humans are feeding them but being a predator they hunt to hone their skills for when we don't feed them so they won't go hungry.
You just keep making your self look dumber and dumber.
yes, a well fed cat will just kill a mouse for fun

you excel at proving yourself wrong.

“HATRED EATS THE SOUL OF”

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THE HATER -- NOT THE HATED

#57 Oct 29, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>yes, a well fed cat will just kill a mouse for fun
you excel at proving yourself wrong.
Nope he kills a mouse to hone his predator skills. Killing for fun is just killing because you can and getting nothing out of it. No honing of skills, no food, no nothing.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#58 Oct 29, 2013
my dog hates flies in the house, he will hunt them down and squish them. no other reason than he hates it when they land on him...

“HATRED EATS THE SOUL OF”

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THE HATER -- NOT THE HATED

#59 Oct 29, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
my dog hates flies in the house, he will hunt them down and squish them. no other reason than he hates it when they land on him...
How does your dog squish a flea? It is hard to squish them in your fingers with their hard shell.

He kills them for they are his enemy. They bite him and make him itch.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#61 Oct 29, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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Nope he kills a mouse to hone his predator skills. Killing for fun is just killing because you can and getting nothing out of it. No honing of skills, no food, no nothing.
you've asked cats about this?

sure pal...

at least you started this one out with a ' i may be wrong' disclaimer...you are learning...

but i have yet to see you man up and admit when you are clearly wrong...i doubt you will now.or even have it in you.

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