Who think of yourself as a descendant...

Who think of yourself as a descendant of a monkey?

Created by Divine Alien on Oct 13, 2008

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“Think&Care”

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#103 Oct 17, 2008
Divine Alien wrote:
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You may explain until the detailed structure of the neutron of an atom.
A neutron consists of two down quarks and one up quark as well as a probabilistic aspect of strange and anti-strange quarks (much lower level) bonded with gluons. A proton is similar in structure, but includes two up quarks and one down quark with the gluons. In both cases, the main force holding them together in, say, an oxygen nucleus is the strong force, although the electric force between protons is also significant. There is a shell structure for the protons and neutrons that is based on the strong force.

After that, there are electrons in orbitals surrounding the nucleus, but on a scale much larger than the nucleus (nano-meters rather than fempto-meters). The Pauli exclusion principle produces multiple layers in much the same way as happens in the nucleus, but based on the electric force. The outermost shell is not full, which allows hybridization with other atoms, producing binding and anti-bonding orbitals and thereby molecules of, say, water.

“Think&Care”

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#104 Oct 17, 2008
Divine Alien wrote:
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The particles, atoms, thermodynamics, expansion factors, and temperatures would not be present if there was no DEITY creating them. Believing that these things simply exist without the initiator is silly!
Really? Why do you think that? What evidence do you have? It's interesting that a thorough treatment of thermodynamics never mentions a deity. There is simply no need for such a hypothesis.
I think it is hard for you all here to believe that Jesus was born without a physical father who should have actually screwed his mom unless you don't think so or believe that Mary had committed adultery. Atoms did born in such manner to form matter that we see.
Huh?? Jesus was a man. Period. His mother had sex just like every other woman in the world.
The Dude

UK

#105 Oct 17, 2008
Divine Alien wrote:
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A deity has a spiritual form that maybe similar to energy. It is the energy that was responsible for the creation of matter like atoms, quantum, photons. This is where Mr Albert Einstein got his equation, E = mCsquare where C is a constant denoting the speed of light. If the speed of light is slow, less energy will be converted to matter. If the speed is terribly fast, all the energy that is supposed to make a creation will be converted into matter. By adding this C, it seems that not all energy is converted into matter and vice versa. Einstein hated the idea that God exists, so he introduced C in his equation so that there is no deity responsible for the creation.
Feklarh, call FSTDT. This one's great!
The Dude

UK

#106 Oct 17, 2008
Divine Alien wrote:
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The particles, atoms, thermodynamics, expansion factors, and temperatures would not be present if there was no DEITY creating them. Believing that these things simply exist without the initiator is silly!
Ah, so you believe in 'Intelligent Falling theory'. So what initiated the "initiator"? Lemme guess, nothing had to? Guess there's an exception to every rule.
The Dude

UK

#107 Oct 17, 2008
Divine Alien wrote:
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I know he did not say that. Did he or you feel silly to claim that the atoms were created by your mom? No way you think so. Perhaps atoms, thermodynamics, gravity were created by the Son of the Bitch!
Charming. Perhaps atoms etc were created by the Flying Spaghetti Monster?

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#108 Oct 17, 2008
The Dude wrote:
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Feklarh, call FSTDT. This one's great!
On it!

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#109 Oct 17, 2008
polymath257 wrote:
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It is not the lightness of the individual molecules that causes them to rise. Bluenose had it right: it is the density of a region. Also, a lightning strike does not produce a vacuum. It produces super hot gasses which expend, producing the sound. Second, we understand quite well the 'energy' that holds the water molecules together. It is the electric force as understood through quantum mechanics.
The oxygen was not created by energy. It was created by a rather involved process starting at hydrogen nuclei (protons) and fusion reactions. This happens in stars almost exclusively. Yes, there was a whole generation of stars before our sun and earth formed.
The protons can be said to be formed from energy, but even that is being somewhat hand-waving. It is more accurate to say that the quarks were formed that way and coalesced to form protons and neutrons. Could you give details why you think a deity had anything to do with this? Please include the relevant particle interaction cross-sections, thermodynamics, expansion factors, and temperatures for your proposed process.
I think that God is a spirit, an almighty divine Spirit. God does not consist of matter eg atoms but wholly exists in spiritual form. The spirit that God is composed of can be considered as nothing - no matter or atom. I am not sure if it is right for me to say that God is made up of quarks of energy but I think plainly that God is simply a spiritual being/deity that is actually an energy that control the universe from outside or inside. I mean God can exist as well as He can exist outside the universe. This is where the concept of think outside the box make people who think in such ways like a brilliant human. There's seem to be someone helping him to think in such manner and we may refer the ability as a product of the sixth sense.
If you think that the oxygen was not created by energy, I think that that is flaw. It needs all the resources in the human himself to make whatever he need on earth from the materials that were created during the creation. Its' creation by a process starting at hydrogen nuclei (protons) and fusion reactions is simply a starting of the process of creation. You must realize that the hydrogen nuclei is created by God. In the same manner, the whole generation of stars that existed before our sun and earth were also created by God. They cannot exist without a cause or Creator. They were created or evolved coz there was a Spiritual Creator or Spiritual Evolutionist responsible for them. These things cannot happen without an Entity which is an absolute Spiritual Being.

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#110 Oct 17, 2008
polymath257 wrote:
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No, you are wrong. An atom does NOT have a structure similar to our solar system. The reason is that quantum mechanics considerations dominate at the atomic level. The orbitals of an electron are actually probability densities rather than elliptical orbits like what happens with planets.
A hydrogen atom consists of a proton and an electron. It has the simplest possible nucleus since it only has a proton. Boron consists of a nucleus with 4 protons and 5 neutrons bound via the strong nuclear force as well as 5 electrons in orbitals surrounding that nucleus. Again, it does NOT consist of anything like the solar system.
Your imagination is flaw then.
Now you think of the solar system. It consists of a sun(nucleus) and planets(electrons) and moons (protons). Unlike as you think of our solar system, it is fantastic that an electron is moving along in an elliptical orbit. Why did this atom were created in such manner resembling the solar system? Please refer to the picture of the whole solar system before you tell this monkey.

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#111 Oct 17, 2008
Feklahr wrote:
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We aren't taking advantage of your cultural heritage, it's your stupidity we find appalling.
Yes, I agree but your stupidity as bad as mine will soon reveal!

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#112 Oct 17, 2008
polymath257 wrote:
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A neutron consists of two down quarks and one up quark as well as a probabilistic aspect of strange and anti-strange quarks (much lower level) bonded with gluons. A proton is similar in structure, but includes two up quarks and one down quark with the gluons. In both cases, the main force holding them together in, say, an oxygen nucleus is the strong force, although the electric force between protons is also significant. There is a shell structure for the protons and neutrons that is based on the strong force.
After that, there are electrons in orbitals surrounding the nucleus, but on a scale much larger than the nucleus (nano-meters rather than fempto-meters). The Pauli exclusion principle produces multiple layers in much the same way as happens in the nucleus, but based on the electric force. The outermost shell is not full, which allows hybridization with other atoms, producing binding and anti-bonding orbitals and thereby molecules of, say, water.
You simply want to deny that the quark has a creator and it can exist without a cause? You are WRONG. You cannot imagine the Spiritual reality at all. This is another kind of stupid idea from my personal view.

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#113 Oct 17, 2008
polymath257 wrote:
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Really? Why do you think that? What evidence do you have? It's interesting that a thorough treatment of thermodynamics never mentions a deity. There is simply no need for such a hypothesis.
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Huh?? Jesus was a man. Period. His mother had sex just like every other woman in the world.
Those who study thermodynamics are those who were scientist not believing in God or who claim to be smarter than the Deity. The evidence is that there is a thermodynamic reaction happening to make the process of thermodynamics happening. Don't you realize that thermodynamics begins with a hypothesis of those stupid smart scientist with due respect of myself being a scientist myself.
If you believe that Jesus is no more like yourself, of course, His mom was f*cked like your father did to your mom who can f*ck anytime your father wants and then a stupid scientist came out of her c_nt.

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#114 Oct 17, 2008
The Dude wrote:
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Ah, so you believe in 'Intelligent Falling theory'. So what initiated the "initiator"? Lemme guess, nothing had to? Guess there's an exception to every rule.
God is the exception.

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#115 Oct 17, 2008
The Dude wrote:
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Charming. Perhaps atoms etc were created by the Flying Spaghetti Monster?
If you want to think stupid like that!

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#116 Oct 17, 2008
Nuggin wrote:
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You can't make such a claim.
You yourself admit that you have no idea who or what this "deity" is. That means you don't have any reason to believe that the "deity" survive the Big Bang.
The only thing we can say for certain is that no such deity actually plays any role in the existence of the Universe today.
If the my Deity was destroyed during your Big Bang, I would have not believed in my God today. If the Big Bang had destroyed my God, there would be totally no God like what you think now.

So you believe that the universe was not a creation of a divine intelligent almighty Spirit who could present or give energy for such thing to happen. You know, this universe contains tremendous amount of energy that even the universe cannot contain it. God can exist outside the universe so God can think or think outside the box. Those who think outside the box are people whom we claim to have the sixth sense.
The Dude

London, UK

#117 Oct 17, 2008
Divine Alien wrote:
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God is the exception.
Thought so.

(rolls eyes)
The Dude

London, UK

#118 Oct 17, 2008
Divine Alien wrote:
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If the my Deity was destroyed during your Big Bang, I would have not believed in my God today. If the Big Bang had destroyed my God, there would be totally no God like what you think now.
So you believe that the universe was not a creation of a divine intelligent almighty Spirit who could present or give energy for such thing to happen. You know, this universe contains tremendous amount of energy that even the universe cannot contain it. God can exist outside the universe so God can think or think outside the box. Those who think outside the box are people whom we claim to have the sixth sense.
Touch, taste, hear, see, smell, stupid?

I-F claimed to have this "sixth sense" as well...

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#119 Oct 17, 2008
polymath257 wrote:
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It is not the lightness of the individual molecules that causes them to rise. Bluenose had it right: it is the density of a region. Also, a lightning strike does not produce a vacuum. It produces super hot gasses which expend, producing the sound. Second, we understand quite well the 'energy' that holds the water molecules together. It is the electric force as understood through quantum mechanics.
You must realize the source of electric force is multiple or from many levels of creations. It may come from something that you understand but you may not realize that something that you least expect is the one who had made it possible for the force to exist.
Lightning is actually a fire/flame/electrical flame as a result of the electrostatic charge escaping to the earth. It is so hot that it is almost a vacuum at the center of the track. When all the charge has enter the earth, there is a collision of air in the track.
You may want to know how a supersonic concorde can produce such a loud explosive sound. The collision of the atmospheric air with the concorde itself enhances the real sound and produce strong resonance.

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#120 Oct 17, 2008
The Dude wrote:
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Touch, taste, hear, see, smell, stupid?
I-F claimed to have this "sixth sense" as well...
I think your sixth sense is the one that produces stupid thoughts.
The Dude

London, UK

#121 Oct 17, 2008
Divine Alien wrote:
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I think your sixth sense is the one that produces stupid thoughts.
I don't claim to have one.

:-)

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#122 Oct 17, 2008
The Dude wrote:
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I don't claim to have one.
:-)
Aha...! That's even worst for you!!!!!!!!!!

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