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#142 Aug 19, 2014
TurkanaBoy wrote:
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The first who made it to America were the ancestors of Native Americans, some 14,000 years ago. The first Europeans who managed it were the Vikings, in the Middle Ages. There is also some faint evidence that Europeans managed to reach America even earlier.
And evolution as Darwin envisioned it is a fact.
As a matter of fact, we don't care about the opinions of a layman who not even knows what he talks about when he uses the word "evolution" and who has not the faintest idea what it's all about.
For those that appreciate scientific evidence: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_of_comm... .
Have you not seen evidence of Egyptian influence as well as Chinese figurines which have been found in South America that date back to before the Middle Ages? For those that appreciate the facts.
TurkanaBoy

Since: May 14

the Earth Clod

#143 Aug 19, 2014
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>Have you not seen evidence of Egyptian influence as well as Chinese figurines which have been found in South America that date back to before the Middle Ages? For those that appreciate the facts.
Any evidence?

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Since: May 08

Orlando

#144 Aug 19, 2014
TurkanaBoy wrote:
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Any evidence?
Anecdotal. Similarities in pottery,*some* genetic possibilities between a Japanese island and an area in Peru(?).

I saw a documentary on it a while back. "Hong Bao and Zhou Man" pre-Columbian explorers.

Then again, I've seen 'documentaries' on Atlantis, Bigfoot, and Ancient Aliens, too.

Interesting concept, but not conclusive.
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#145 Aug 19, 2014
TurkanaBoy wrote:
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Any evidence?
Yes, and mans ocean travel before European contact is also verified by plants like the sweet potato, which was wide spread in Polynesia and South America. The name for it in South America also appears to have been borrowed from Eastern Polynesia.
TurkanaBoy

Since: May 14

the Earth Clod

#146 Aug 19, 2014
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, and mans ocean travel before European contact is also verified by plants like the sweet potato, which was wide spread in Polynesia and South America. The name for it in South America also appears to have been borrowed from Eastern Polynesia.
But, pardon me, I asked you evidence for Chinese and Egyptian influence in America, and your evidence is the potato, which originates from America?

Again, EVIDENCE???
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#147 Aug 19, 2014
TurkanaBoy wrote:
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But, pardon me, I asked you evidence for Chinese and Egyptian influence in America, and your evidence is the potato, which originates from America?
Again, EVIDENCE???
Our old pal Kong probably knows about most of this. There is even pottery which was found in some of the oldest settled cultures in the Americas such as in the modern day Valdivia Ecuador which must have came from Japan, and recent haplo group studies support Japanese-Valdivian contact. There is also genetics which support Native American and East Asian contact.

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Since: May 08

Orlando

#148 Aug 19, 2014
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>Our old pal Kong probably knows about most of this. There is even pottery which was found in some of the oldest settled cultures in the Americas such as in the modern day Valdivia Ecuador which must have came from Japan, and recent haplo group studies support Japanese-Valdivian contact. There is also genetics which support Native American and East Asian contact.
Yup....http://en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Valdivia_culture

And if this is in fact evidence that corroborates an ancient Japanese sea migration to Ecuador (4th millennium BC), this pretty much adds to the evidence AGAINST your concept of a Noachian flood 4500 years ago.

....you know this, right?
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#149 Aug 19, 2014
Kong_ wrote:
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Yup....http://en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Valdivia_culture
And if this is in fact evidence that corroborates an ancient Japanese sea migration to Ecuador (4th millennium BC), this pretty much adds to the evidence AGAINST your concept of a Noachian flood 4500 years ago.
....you know this, right?
The problem and only hangup then may be in our dating technique for this. I see something is wrong somewhere, and it must be in a misunderstanding about the time lines.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#150 Aug 19, 2014
Link messed up above:

http://en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Valdivia_culture

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Orlando

#151 Aug 19, 2014
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>The problem and only hangup then may be in our dating technique for this. I see something is wrong somewhere, and it must be in a misunderstanding about the time lines.
Or the problem COULD be a faulty calculation by Bishop Ussher who decreed the dates of the Noachian Flood (which never really happened) and of Creation/Adam & Eve (which didn't happen in the manner described by the Bible, or in the time scales as Genesis dictates).
TurkanaBoy

Since: May 14

the Earth Clod

#152 Aug 19, 2014
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>Our old pal Kong probably knows about most of this. There is even pottery which was found in some of the oldest settled cultures in the Americas such as in the modern day Valdivia Ecuador which must have came from Japan, and recent haplo group studies support Japanese-Valdivian contact. There is also genetics which support Native American and East Asian contact.
EVIDENCE??????
TurkanaBoy

Since: May 14

the Earth Clod

#153 Aug 19, 2014
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>The problem and only hangup then may be in our dating technique for this. I see something is wrong somewhere, and it must be in a misunderstanding about the time lines.
SUUUURRRREEEE.
And WHICH problems precisely?

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