The religion of Darwin who was an apostate preacher

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“Live and Let Live”

Since: Aug 13

West Plains, MO

#1 Dec 17, 2013
The religion of Darwin who was an apostate preacher teaching his evolution relighion.

Stephen J. Gould of Harvard admitted, "The fossil record with its abrupt transitions offers no support for gradual change." I assume that all college professors know that Darwin admitted the same fact.(I also assume they know that Darwin was not trained as a scientist but for the ministry, so evolutionists are worshipping at the feet of an apostate preacher!) Charles Robert Darwin studied ministry at Cambridge.

David Pilbeam, a Harvard University paleoanthropologist, says:
"If you brought in a smart scientist from another discipline and showed him the meagre evidence we've got he'd surely say, "forget it; there isn't enough to go on."

World famous scientist, G. G. Simpson stated, "It is inherent in any definition of science that statements that cannot be checked by observation are not about anything...or at the very best, they are not science."

Evolution is about as scientific as a voodoo rooster plucking ceremony in Haiti. Almost.

Dr. David Kitts, professor of geology at the University of Oklahoma said, "Evolution requires intermediate forms between species and paleontology does not provide them...."

Swiss scientist Dr. A. E. Wilder-Smith (who recently died), with three earned doctorates in science and considered to be an expert by the United Nations, confessed after seeing the fossilized dinosaur tracks and men prints within inches of each other at Glen Rose, Texas, "...all this makes evolution impossible."

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#2 Dec 17, 2013
suncore wrote:
The religion of Darwin who was an apostate preacher teaching his evolution relighion.
Stephen J. Gould of Harvard admitted, "The fossil record with its abrupt transitions offers no support for gradual change." I assume that all college professors know that Darwin admitted the same fact.(I also assume they know that Darwin was not trained as a scientist but for the ministry, so evolutionists are worshipping at the feet of an apostate preacher!) Charles Robert Darwin studied ministry at Cambridge.
David Pilbeam, a Harvard University paleoanthropologist, says:
"If you brought in a smart scientist from another discipline and showed him the meagre evidence we've got he'd surely say, "forget it; there isn't enough to go on."
World famous scientist, G. G. Simpson stated, "It is inherent in any definition of science that statements that cannot be checked by observation are not about anything...or at the very best, they are not science."
Evolution is about as scientific as a voodoo rooster plucking ceremony in Haiti. Almost.
Dr. David Kitts, professor of geology at the University of Oklahoma said, "Evolution requires intermediate forms between species and paleontology does not provide them...."
Swiss scientist Dr. A. E. Wilder-Smith (who recently died), with three earned doctorates in science and considered to be an expert by the United Nations, confessed after seeing the fossilized dinosaur tracks and men prints within inches of each other at Glen Rose, Texas, "...all this makes evolution impossible."

Wow. What ignorant lies.

There is more material evidence for both the fact and the theory of evolution (which are seperate things) than for ANY other area of scientific research.


Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#3 Dec 17, 2013
suncore wrote:
Stephen J. Gould of Harvard admitted, "The fossil record with its abrupt transitions offers no support for gradual change."
Read how dishonestly you lying Jesus Freaks have quote-mined Gould:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/quotes/mine/p...
suncore wrote:
I assume that all college professors know that Darwin admitted the same fact.
Darwin wrote in the 1850s. We have found MILLIONS of fossils since then, and the lineages have filled in quite nicely. Darwin predicted they'd be there, and they were!
suncore wrote:
I assume that all college professors know that Darwin admitted the same fact.(I also assume they know that Darwin was not trained as a scientist but for the ministry, so evolutionists are worshipping at the feet of an apostate preacher!) Charles Robert Darwin studied ministry at Cambridge.
Kinda defeats the Christian LIE that evolution is some sort of atheist conspiracy, doesn't it? LOL! Christ, you are too stupid for words!
suncore wrote:
David Pilbeam, a Harvard University paleoanthropologist, says:
"If you brought in a smart scientist from another discipline and showed him the meagre evidence we've got he'd surely say, "forget it; there isn't enough to go on."
Go on, what does he say next? Something like, "... but they'd be wrong, now, wouldn't they? As the modern evidence shows....etc."
suncore wrote:
Dr. David Kitts, professor of geology at the University of Oklahoma said, "Evolution requires intermediate forms between species and paleontology does not provide them...."
Kitts was talking about Punctuated Equilibrium being a better explanation than gradualism. He was a committed evolutionist.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/quotes/mine/p...
suncore wrote:
Swiss scientist Dr. A. E. Wilder-Smith (who recently died), with three earned doctorates in science and considered to be an expert by the United Nations, confessed after seeing the fossilized dinosaur tracks and men prints within inches of each other at Glen Rose, Texas, "...all this makes evolution impossible."
You idiot. The Paluxy tracks were debunked DECADES ago. Yet you Christians still tell hopeful lies about them. LOL!
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC101.h...
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#4 Dec 17, 2013
And Darwin was never a "preacher." He began to study for the ministry at Cambridge, but dropped it to do science. They were Unitarians, by the way, hardly Christians to people like you, right? LOL

“Live and Let Live”

Since: Aug 13

West Plains, MO

#5 Dec 17, 2013
suncore wrote:
<quoted text>Stephen J. Gould of Harvard admitted, "The fossil record with its abrupt transitions offers no support for gradual change." I assume that all college professors know that Darwin admitted the same fact.(I also assume they know that Darwin was not trained as a scientist but for the ministry, so evolutionists are worshipping at the feet of an apostate preacher!) Charles Robert Darwin studied ministry at Cambridge.
Gillette wrote:
<quoted text>Kinda defeats the Christian LIE that evolution is some sort of atheist conspiracy, doesn't it? LOL! Christ, you are too stupid for words!
An apostate preacher is someone who has once believed and then rejected the truth of God. Fits right in the atheism evolution perfectly.

“Live and Let Live”

Since: Aug 13

West Plains, MO

#6 Dec 17, 2013
Gillette wrote:
And Darwin was never a "preacher." He began to study for the ministry at Cambridge, but dropped it to do science. They were Unitarians, by the way, hardly Christians to people like you, right? LOL
Fourth year finals

Back at Cambridge in the third week of January 1831 Charles sat his final exam. There were three days of written papers covering the Classics, the two Paley texts and John Locke's An Essay Concerning Human Understanding, then mathematics and physics. At the end of the week when the results were posted he was dazed and proud to have come 10th out of a pass list of 178 doing the ordinary degree. Charles shone in theology and scraped through in the other subjects.

His only degree was in theology. You do know what that is don't you?

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#7 Dec 17, 2013
suncore wrote:
The religion of Darwin who was an apostate preacher teaching his evolution relighion.
Stephen J. Gould of Harvard admitted, "The fossil record with its abrupt transitions offers no support for gradual change." I assume that all college professors know that Darwin admitted the same fact.(I also assume they know that Darwin was not trained as a scientist but for the ministry, so evolutionists are worshipping at the feet of an apostate preacher!) Charles Robert Darwin studied ministry at Cambridge.
David Pilbeam, a Harvard University paleoanthropologist, says:
"If you brought in a smart scientist from another discipline and showed him the meagre evidence we've got he'd surely say, "forget it; there isn't enough to go on."
World famous scientist, G. G. Simpson stated, "It is inherent in any definition of science that statements that cannot be checked by observation are not about anything...or at the very best, they are not science."
Evolution is about as scientific as a voodoo rooster plucking ceremony in Haiti. Almost.
Dr. David Kitts, professor of geology at the University of Oklahoma said, "Evolution requires intermediate forms between species and paleontology does not provide them...."
Swiss scientist Dr. A. E. Wilder-Smith (who recently died), with three earned doctorates in science and considered to be an expert by the United Nations, confessed after seeing the fossilized dinosaur tracks and men prints within inches of each other at Glen Rose, Texas, "...all this makes evolution impossible."
Ah, the quote miner has struck a rich vein. I wonder what David Pilbeam was really talking about. It sure wasn't evolution.

My mistake. Not just quote mining, but outright lies.

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#8 Dec 17, 2013
suncore wrote:
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Fourth year finals
Back at Cambridge in the third week of January 1831 Charles sat his final exam. There were three days of written papers covering the Classics, the two Paley texts and John Locke's An Essay Concerning Human Understanding, then mathematics and physics. At the end of the week when the results were posted he was dazed and proud to have come 10th out of a pass list of 178 doing the ordinary degree. Charles shone in theology and scraped through in the other subjects.
His only degree was in theology. You do know what that is don't you?
His degrees and beliefs bear no relevance to the theory of evolution. You do know that don't you?

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#9 Dec 17, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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Wow. What ignorant lies.
There is more material evidence for both the fact and the theory of evolution (which are seperate things) than for ANY other area of scientific research.
Some people just can't suppress the urge to be a total dick.
Mugwump

Barnsley, UK

#10 Dec 17, 2013
suncore wrote:
The religion of Darwin who was an apostate preacher teaching his evolution relighion.
Stephen J. Gould of Harvard admitted, "The fossil record with its abrupt transitions offers no support for gradual change."

.....
And the whole Gould quote :-
"The fossil record with its abrupt transitions offers no support for gradual change, and the principle of natural selection does not require it -- selection can operate rapidly. "

So tell me suncore, why do fundies have to resort to misrepresenting someone's words to support the creationist argument ?

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#11 Dec 17, 2013
suncore wrote:
The religion of Darwin who was an apostate preacher teaching his evolution relighion.
Stephen J. Gould of Harvard admitted, "The fossil record with its abrupt transitions offers no support for gradual change." I assume that all college professors know that Darwin admitted the same fact.(I also assume they know that Darwin was not trained as a scientist but for the ministry, so evolutionists are worshipping at the feet of an apostate preacher!) Charles Robert Darwin studied ministry at Cambridge.
David Pilbeam, a Harvard University paleoanthropologist, says:
"If you brought in a smart scientist from another discipline and showed him the meagre evidence we've got he'd surely say, "forget it; there isn't enough to go on."
World famous scientist, G. G. Simpson stated, "It is inherent in any definition of science that statements that cannot be checked by observation are not about anything...or at the very best, they are not science."
Evolution is about as scientific as a voodoo rooster plucking ceremony in Haiti. Almost.
Dr. David Kitts, professor of geology at the University of Oklahoma said, "Evolution requires intermediate forms between species and paleontology does not provide them...."
Swiss scientist Dr. A. E. Wilder-Smith (who recently died), with three earned doctorates in science and considered to be an expert by the United Nations, confessed after seeing the fossilized dinosaur tracks and men prints within inches of each other at Glen Rose, Texas, "...all this makes evolution impossible."
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Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#12 Dec 17, 2013
suncore wrote:
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An apostate preacher is someone who has once believed and then rejected the truth of God. Fits right in the atheism evolution perfectly.
a·pos·tate [uh-pos-teyt,-tit] noun
1. a person who forsakes his religion, cause, party, etc.

A person, not a preacher, you asshole. He was never a "preacher" in the greasy, dishonest way that YOU understand "preachers" as an ignorant fundie Jesus Freak.
suncore wrote:
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Fits right in the atheism evolution perfectly.
Really? Tell that to the evangelical Christians at Baylor University, the "largest Baptist University in the world," where the students go on mission trips, etc.

This is from the Biology Department at Baylor:
http://www.baylor.edu/biology/index.php...

Statement on Evolution
"Evolution, a foundational principle of modern biology, is supported by overwhelming scientific evidence and is accepted by the vast majority of scientists. Because it is fundamental to the understanding of modern biology, the faculty in the Biology Department at Baylor University, Waco, TX, teach evolution throughout the biology curriculum. We are in accordance with the American Association for Advancement of Science's statement on evolution. We are a science department, so we do not teach alternative hypotheses or philosophically deduced theories that cannot be tested rigorously."

Also, here from the Baylor Geology Department:
http://www.baylor.edu/geology/index.php...

Quote:

"Question: Does the fossil record support the idea of biological change over time (biological evolution)?

Yes. The fossil record clearly indicates...

• a progression in complexity of organisms from very simple fossil forms in the oldest rocks (>3.5 billion years old) to a broad spectrum from simple to complex forms in younger rocks,

• that some organisms that were once common are now extinct, and

• that the living organisms inhabiting our world today are similar (but generally not the same) as organisms represented as fossils in young sedimentary deposits, which in turn have evolutionary ancestors represented as fossils in yet older rocks.

Mammals, for example, are prevalent today and can be traced back in the fossil record for approximately 200 million years, but are not present as mammals in the fossil record before that; however, fossil forms that have reasonably been interpreted to be associated with the evolutionary precursors to mammals are found in older rocks.

Whether biological evolution occurs has not been a matter of scientific debate for more than a century. It is considered a proven fact."

End quote
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#13 Dec 17, 2013
suncore wrote:
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<quoted text> Fits right in the atheism evolution perfectly.
"The Clergy letter Project" signed by 12,444 Christian clergy men and women as of today.
http://www.theclergyletterproject.org

Quote

We the undersigned, Christian clergy from many different traditions, believe that the timeless truths of the Bible and the discoveries of modern science may comfortably coexist.

We believe that the theory of evolution is a foundational scientific truth, one that has stood up to rigorous scrutiny and upon which much of human knowledge and achievement rests.

To reject this truth or to treat it as “one theory among others” is to deliberately embrace scientific ignorance and transmit such ignorance to our children.

We believe that among God’s good gifts are human minds capable of critical thought and that the failure to fully employ this gift is a rejection of the will of our Creator. To argue that God’s loving plan of salvation for humanity precludes the full employment of the God-given faculty of reason is to attempt to limit God, an act of hubris.

We urge school board members to preserve the integrity of the science curriculum by affirming the teaching of the theory of evolution as a core component of human knowledge.

We ask that science remain science and that religion remain religion, two very different, but complementary, forms of truth.

End quote
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#14 Dec 18, 2013
suncore wrote:
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<quoted text>
An apostate preacher is someone who has once believed and then rejected the truth of God. Fits right in the atheism evolution perfectly.
Oh hey dimcore. I see you're still lying for Jesus, since:

1 - Evolution is fact, not a religion.

2 - Evolution is not atheism.

3 - You know this, since you are unable to debunk us and instead attack with ad-hom.

4 - You can't demonstrate your god exists anymore than Hindus can demonstrate Ganesh the elephant deity.

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#15 Dec 18, 2013
suncore wrote:
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Fourth year finals
Back at Cambridge in the third week of January 1831 Charles sat his final exam. There were three days of written papers covering the Classics, the two Paley texts and John Locke's An Essay Concerning Human Understanding, then mathematics and physics. At the end of the week when the results were posted he was dazed and proud to have come 10th out of a pass list of 178 doing the ordinary degree. Charles shone in theology and scraped through in the other subjects.
His only degree was in theology. You do know what that is don't you?
Theology: The practice of lying convincingly to those too ignorant to know any better
DarwinPaul

Houston, TX

#16 Dec 18, 2013
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>Evolution: The practice of lying convincingly to those too ignorant to know any better
Fixed

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#17 Dec 18, 2013
DarwinPaul wrote:
<quoted text>
Fixed
Good to know. I was worried you might reproduce.

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#18 Dec 18, 2013
suncore wrote:
The religion of Darwin who was an apostate preacher teaching his evolution relighion.
Stephen J. Gould of Harvard admitted, "The fossil record with its abrupt transitions offers no support for gradual change." I assume that all college professors know that Darwin admitted the same fact.(I also assume they know that Darwin was not trained as a scientist but for the ministry, so evolutionists are worshipping at the feet of an apostate preacher!) Charles Robert Darwin studied ministry at Cambridge.
David Pilbeam, a Harvard University paleoanthropologist, says:
"If you brought in a smart scientist from another discipline and showed him the meagre evidence we've got he'd surely say, "forget it; there isn't enough to go on."
World famous scientist, G. G. Simpson stated, "It is inherent in any definition of science that statements that cannot be checked by observation are not about anything...or at the very best, they are not science."
Evolution is about as scientific as a voodoo rooster plucking ceremony in Haiti. Almost.
Dr. David Kitts, professor of geology at the University of Oklahoma said, "Evolution requires intermediate forms between species and paleontology does not provide them...."
Swiss scientist Dr. A. E. Wilder-Smith (who recently died), with three earned doctorates in science and considered to be an expert by the United Nations, confessed after seeing the fossilized dinosaur tracks and men prints within inches of each other at Glen Rose, Texas, "...all this makes evolution impossible."
Darwin was never a preacher. When he lost his daughter a few weeks after she was born he blamed God and lost his faith. He then began to hate God and started a quest to make all believe God did not exist. Thus the theory of evolution was born with the death of his daughter.

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Dubai, UAE

#19 Dec 19, 2013
DarkBlue wrote:
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Darwin was never a preacher. When he lost his daughter a few weeks after she was born he blamed God and lost his faith. He then began to hate God and started a quest to make all believe God did not exist. Thus the theory of evolution was born with the death of his daughter.
Even if this silly tale was true Darwin's motives still would not make any difference.

Science does not work that way.

So tiresome that there are still people who think that this kind of argument matters one iota. Evolution is accepted by 99.9% of biologists because of the evidence in the ground, in the genome, in the lab and in the field. Nobody actually cares what Darwin's motives were.

If you understood science, you would understand this.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#20 Dec 19, 2013
DarwinPaul wrote:
<quoted text>Fixed
Pity you don't have the capacity to back yourself up.(shrug)

By the way, are you ready to apologise for your lies yet?
DarkBlue wrote:
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Darwin was never a preacher. When he lost his daughter a few weeks after she was born he blamed God and lost his faith. He then began to hate God and started a quest to make all believe God did not exist. Thus the theory of evolution was born with the death of his daughter.
You're lying. His issues with theology were no different to that of other Christians who sometimes find it difficult to reconcile the harshness of reality with a "loving God". The theory of evolution however is not atheism, and makes no theological claims. It was a conclusion he came to separately due to the evidence. And if God was responsible for evolution, then so be it. And if God was not responsible, then it made no difference.

Evolution happened, God or no God. Or God is a liar.

I'm open to all three possibilities.

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