There are places religion does not be...

There are places religion does not belong

There are 10 comments on the Daily Barometer story from Apr 22, 2013, titled There are places religion does not belong. In it, Daily Barometer reports that:

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ViaDolorosa

Columbus, GA

#2 Apr 27, 2013
Good thing God isn't a "religion". That is mankind's doings - creating all of these secular "religions" we see in the world today.

And contrary - God belongs in EVERY aspect of our lives - whether *you* choose to acknowledge it or not.

It appears that satan is on your side, my friend.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#3 Apr 27, 2013
The Flying Spaghetti Monster is on my side, and that is the REAL God. RAMEN!
THE LONE WORKER
#4 Apr 27, 2013
The Constitution requires that government does not prevent the free exercise of religion. This is in the law of our land. The constitution does not put any government ran school in a place of eminence over any person and their right to exercise their freedom to believe in God. The intent of the law was to prevent government from controlling people and making a religion for people to worship. The government can not establish a religion and require people to adhere to it. To teach children that we are apes and the Bible is a lie is against the law, if the government knows it is preventing someones religion. The constitution considers religious freedom as more deserving of high protection than education by any government system. There are some who want to make education more important, but the contitution tells us what is right.
iable

Saltville, VA

#5 Apr 27, 2013
god is probably real.. because if he's not real you wouldn't be able to experience anything..
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#6 Apr 29, 2013
THE LONE WORKER wrote:
The Constitution requires that government does not prevent the free exercise of religion. This is in the law of our land. The constitution does not put any government ran school in a place of eminence over any person and their right to exercise their freedom to believe in God. The intent of the law was to prevent government from controlling people and making a religion for people to worship. The government can not establish a religion and require people to adhere to it. To teach children that we are apes and the Bible is a lie is against the law, if the government knows it is preventing someones religion.
Actually no it isn't, and there's already been a few court cases on this already. Teachers aren't allowed to say outright that the Bible is a lie but they ARE allowed to teach reality - for example that humans are apes. They are also allowed to teach that the Earth is not flat, which also contradicts the Bible. However this is not preventing anyone's religion since, due to the guarantee of religious freedom, parents are allowed to remove their kids from science class so that they don't have to learn about all that evil Satanic reality stuff. They also have the right to homeschool their kids or send them to a private school where they teach stupid instead. Or, they can tell kids to learn the evil Satanic reality stuff just so they can put the correct answers down on science tests and pass science, but still tell their kids that it's all wrong cuz God didn't do it like that.

Hence education can still proceed and religious freedom is not impinged.
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#7 Apr 29, 2013
ViaDolorosa wrote:
Good thing God isn't a "religion". That is mankind's doings - creating all of these secular "religions" we see in the world today.
Yes, and your bigoted, ignorant fundamentalist Protestant cult is a PRIME EXAMPLE of this, wouldn't you agree?
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#8 Apr 29, 2013
THE LONE WORKER wrote:
The Constitution requires that government does not prevent the free exercise of religion. This is in the law of our land.
And the way the Constitution has been interpreted over the past 200 years, it is illegal for a government run institution (schools, courts, post offices, etc.) to advocate ANY religion.

In other words, public schools teachers have the right to free expression of their fundamentalist Christianity (just for example, let's say) on their OWN TIMEY, but they cannot advocate or talk about religion during class time because that is interpreted as the government promoting one religion.
THE LONE WORKER wrote:
The intent of the law was to prevent government from controlling people and making a religion for people to worship. The government can not establish a religion and require people to adhere to it.
Yes, so I'm sure you can understand how a public school science teacher teaching fundamentalist CHristian Creationism in class would equal the government promoting a religion. That's why it is ILLEGAL.
THE LONE WORKER wrote:
To teach children that we are apes and the Bible is a lie is against the law, if the government knows it is preventing someones religion.
On the contrary, it is correct science to teach that homo sapiens is a member of the family of ape species. It is just the truth and just reality.

Public school science teachers have a duty not to bring up the subject of the Bible in science classes. Now, if an aggressive, annoying little Jesus Freak teenager wants to continually divert the discussion to Bible creationism, the teacher may have to skirt around the edges of this subject and, in fact, inadvertently make some comments about the Bible. It is, of course, the fault of the annoying little kid (and the parents and pastors and Bible teachers behind him who have put him up to it).
THE LONE WORKER wrote:
The constitution considers religious freedom as more deserving of high protection than education by any government system.
Wrong. Study up on past court decisions and you will see how wrong you are.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#9 Apr 29, 2013
Gillette wrote:
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And the way the Constitution has been interpreted over the past 200 years, it is illegal for a government run institution (schools, courts, post offices, etc.) to advocate ANY religion.
In other words, public schools teachers have the right to free expression of their fundamentalist Christianity (just for example, let's say) on their OWN TIMEY, but they cannot advocate or talk about religion during class time because that is interpreted as the government promoting one religion.
<quoted text>
Yes, so I'm sure you can understand how a public school science teacher teaching fundamentalist CHristian Creationism in class would equal the government promoting a religion. That's why it is ILLEGAL.
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On the contrary, it is correct science to teach that homo sapiens is a member of the family of ape species. It is just the truth and just reality.
Public school science teachers have a duty not to bring up the subject of the Bible in science classes. Now, if an aggressive, annoying little Jesus Freak teenager wants to continually divert the discussion to Bible creationism, the teacher may have to skirt around the edges of this subject and, in fact, inadvertently make some comments about the Bible. It is, of course, the fault of the annoying little kid (and the parents and pastors and Bible teachers behind him who have put him up to it).
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Wrong. Study up on past court decisions and you will see how wrong you are.
Exactly.

But to add, what if -- instead of a Public School science teacher who happens to be CHRISTIAN that wanted to teach his/her own philosophy -- this teacher happened to be a Muslim, or (GASP) a SATAN WORSHIPER teach their own version of Creation?

You would see Via, and all those "teach the controversy" advocates knocking each other down to get to the Supreme Court!

It would be like watching an old 'Keystone Kops' movie!

Hilarious!
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#10 Apr 29, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
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Exactly.
But to add, what if -- instead of a Public School science teacher who happens to be CHRISTIAN that wanted to teach his/her own philosophy -- this teacher happened to be a Muslim, or (GASP) a SATAN WORSHIPER teach their own version of Creation?
You would see Via, and all those "teach the controversy" advocates knocking each other down to get to the Supreme Court!
It would be like watching an old 'Keystone Kops' movie!
Hilarious!
Yes, there is a city in Michigan where a lot of Arab immigrants have settled. There are multiple mosques and the call to prayer can occasionally be heard in public, like church bells in other towns.

What if THOSE parents decided to teach some form of Muslim religion in the public schools -- either in science classes or elsewhere? After all, they are in the majority, right? Majority rules, right? I wonder what our CHristian friends who live there would do and how they would feel.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#11 Apr 29, 2013
Gillette wrote:
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Yes, there is a city in Michigan where a lot of Arab immigrants have settled. There are multiple mosques and the call to prayer can occasionally be heard in public, like church bells in other towns.
What if THOSE parents decided to teach some form of Muslim religion in the public schools -- either in science classes or elsewhere? After all, they are in the majority, right? Majority rules, right? I wonder what our CHristian friends who live there would do and how they would feel.
Not too far from where I live (Orlando, Fl) is a community called Cassadaga. It bills itself as the "Psychic Capital of the World".

In other words: WITCHES!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassadaga,_Flori...

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