Anti-Science Bill Dead For Now

Anti-Science Bill Dead For Now

There are 78 comments on the okiefunk.com story from Mar 15, 2013, titled Anti-Science Bill Dead For Now. In it, okiefunk.com reports that:

A bill that essentially attacks the teaching of evolution and the scientific method has apparently died quietly in the legislature, and that's good news for the state's public school students and its overall intellectual community.

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The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#21 Mar 18, 2013
His-truth wrote:
yall come join the debate ... http://www.topix.com/news/evolution/2013/03/a... .. and also .. http://creation.com/creation-station .. at least hear both sides
There is no other side. I spent a whole week asking you provide that "other side" and all I got was "Humans make computers therefore God make humans!!!"
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#22 Mar 18, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>Not exactly. The Common Descent Postulate isn't testable, although it's clear that evolution has happened to some degree.
Hey liar, you've been pointed out how it's been tested in numerous different ways. To date you've not addressed it. Carry on failing, Shoob.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#23 Mar 18, 2013
Pete-o wrote:
<quoted text>
And what is that theorem?
Quantum physics = Goddidit with magic therefore Goddidit with magic.

He's way too stupid to understand this, but 'His-truth' actually disagrees with that position. Which is kinda funny.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#24 Mar 18, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>Is that the most impressive lie that you could come up with?
Shoob, why are you, a known and confirmed liar accusing other people of lying?

Level 4

Since: Jan 08

San Mateo, CA

#25 Mar 18, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>The Common Descent Postulate is the untestable belief that all organisms have a common ancestor. For example, middle-school children are taught that we are all related to oak trees.
Very testable, through fossil evidence and genetics alone, but backe dup by ALL biological sciences.

Level 4

Since: Jan 08

San Mateo, CA

#26 Mar 18, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>Scientifically defined, creationism can only mean a fast but fantastically improbable creation of highly organized structures, such as the universe and life itself. According to this definition, Rodger Penrose is a creationist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =pEIj9zcLzp0XX
Well since creationism has no basis or footing in the scientific world, your wild assertions are easily dismissed.

Level 4

Since: Jan 08

San Mateo, CA

#27 Mar 18, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Quantum physics = Goddidit with magic therefore Goddidit with magic.
He's way too stupid to understand this, but 'His-truth' actually disagrees with that position. Which is kinda funny.
Now I think I'm remembering him from a while back, plain and simple, lost cause.
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Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#28 Mar 18, 2013
Pete-o wrote:
<quoted text>
Well since creationism has no basis or footing in the scientific world, your wild assertions are easily dismissed.
Don't tell me. Tell Stephen Hawking and Roger Penrose that their creationist views have no basis or footing in the scientific world.
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Since: Nov 08

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#29 Mar 18, 2013
Pete-o wrote:
Very testable, through fossil evidence and genetics alone, but backe dup by ALL biological sciences.
If you can prove it to middle-school students (that we and oak trees have a common ancestor) then I'm willing to listen. But as I said before, since most biologists are so unthinking as to be easily fooled into believing that a virus causes AIDS, and are incapable of debating the world-class virologist Dr. Peter Duesberg on their most concrete mythology, then I'm content in believing that the delusions whirling around in your mind, not of your making, will continue whirling, which is the mental state you obviously prefer.
Troll Nut Shubee Be Gone

Brattleboro, VT

#30 Mar 18, 2013
"I happily acknowledge that a belief in God isn't required to do science."

-yet in the Natural Remedies thread you insisted on seeing proof that any virologist agrees AIDS is a man-made disease as Dr. Horowitz and many other doctors document, implying that one must be a virologist to understand anything about the origin of AIDS, then you made the ridiculous claim that there is no such thing as AIDS
as I said in that thread, you're a nut

I see the internet has lots of info on Eugene Shubee being a whacko bitter former SDA and a deceiving/lying manipulating jerk
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Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#31 Mar 18, 2013
Troll Nut Shubee Be Gone wrote:
you made the ridiculous claim that there is no such thing as AIDS
Please get your vision checked. I said that there is no such thing as an AIDS virus and that there is no AIDS epidemic.

Why do I believe in the testimonies of the highly acclaimed virologist Dr. Peter Duesberg and not in the conspiracy theory of your kooky dentist? It's very simple. To unquestioningly trust the National Academy of Sciences, National Institutes of Health, the FDA, WHO and UNAIDS, as representatives of legitimate science, is equivalent to believing the third demon's message.
http://everythingimportant.org/

On the other hand, the claims of Dr. Peter Duesberg are consistent with the third angel's message. http://everythingimportant.org/

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#32 Mar 18, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>Stephen Hawking also satisfied my definition of a believer in creationism since Hawking says that the universe created itself from nothing. Please note: Since I teach that God is orthogonal to physics, it then follows that I happily acknowledge that a belief in God isn't required to do science.
Nope. Show where he stated the universe was "created."

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#33 Mar 18, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>If you can prove it to middle-school students (that we and oak trees have a common ancestor) then I'm willing to listen. But as I said before, since most biologists are so unthinking as to be easily fooled into believing that a virus causes AIDS, and are incapable of debating the world-class virologist Dr. Peter Duesberg on their most concrete mythology, then I'm content in believing that the delusions whirling around in your mind, not of your making, will continue whirling, which is the mental state you obviously prefer.
Middle school students don't study in such advanced topics, which provides evidence that you are probably nothing but a middle school student yourself, as it would explain why you cannot grasp these more advanced topics well.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#34 Mar 18, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>Please get your vision checked. I said that there is no such thing as an AIDS virus and that there is no AIDS epidemic.
Why do I believe in the testimonies of the highly acclaimed virologist Dr. Peter Duesberg and not in the conspiracy theory of your kooky dentist? It's very simple. To unquestioningly trust the National Academy of Sciences, National Institutes of Health, the FDA, WHO and UNAIDS, as representatives of legitimate science, is equivalent to believing the third demon's message.
http://everythingimportant.org/
On the other hand, the claims of Dr. Peter Duesberg are consistent with the third angel's message. http://everythingimportant.org/
Still just advertising your own website.

No one said there was an AIDS virus, AIDS is the result of an HIV infection, HIV is a virus, and there is an epidemic. Your denial of this is simply more of your denial of reality itself.
Level 6

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#35 Mar 18, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
Show where he stated the universe was "created."
"Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist." - The Grand Design, p. 180. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grand_Design
http://books.google.com/books...
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Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#36 Mar 18, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
No one said there was an AIDS virus,
The boob from Brattleboro, VT believes that there's an AIDS virus because his dentist told him so.
Level 6

Since: Nov 08

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#37 Mar 18, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
AIDS is the result of an HIV infection,
You only say so because you're a nonthinking parrot that has been duped by the paid shills of the pharmaceutical industry, i.e., the National Academy of Sciences, National Institutes of Health, the FDA, WHO and UNAIDS.
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Since: Nov 08

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#38 Mar 18, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Middle school students don't study in such advanced topics,
Obviously not since the state objective is to indoctrinate them with materialist dogma.
Level 6

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#39 Mar 18, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Still just advertising your own website.
http://everythingimportant.org /AZT/ is a mere collection of 17 dissident science videos not produced by me, but meant for dullards like you, whereas http://everythingimportant.org/ is primarily a collection of 55 videos, also not of my creation.
Level 6

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#40 Mar 18, 2013
Shubee wrote:
http://everythingimportant.org /AZT/ is a mere collection of 17 dissident science videos not produced by me, but meant for dullards like you, whereas http://everythingimportant.org/ is primarily a collection of 55 videos, also not of my creation.
Wow! Look at all the brilliant Nobel Laureates, accomplished cell biologists, award-winning journalists and courageous political activists that agree with me!

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