Anti-Science Bill Dead For Now

Anti-Science Bill Dead For Now

There are 78 comments on the okiefunk.com story from Mar 15, 2013, titled Anti-Science Bill Dead For Now. In it, okiefunk.com reports that:

A bill that essentially attacks the teaching of evolution and the scientific method has apparently died quietly in the legislature, and that's good news for the state's public school students and its overall intellectual community.

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“the end-times is now”

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#1 Mar 16, 2013
yall come join the debate ... http://www.topix.com/news/evolution/2013/03/a... .. and also .. http://creation.com/creation-station .. at least hear both sides

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#2 Mar 16, 2013
To date there is only one "side".

Creationists don't seem to know how to do science.

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#3 Mar 16, 2013
His-truth wrote:
yall come join the debate ... http://www.topix.com/news/evolution/2013/03/a... .. and also .. http://creation.com/creation-station .. at least hear both sides
There is only one side, science. Until creationists can provide a viable alternative, the overwhelmingly accepted science should be the only thing taught-evolution.
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#4 Mar 17, 2013
Pete-o wrote:
There is only one side, science. Until creationists can provide a viable alternative, the overwhelmingly accepted science should be the only thing taught
I agree that popular science is one-sided but true science offers multiple possibilities. So multiple possibilities should be taught.

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#5 Mar 17, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>I agree that popular science is one-sided but true science offers multiple possibilities. So multiple possibilities should be taught.
Sometimes. Unfortunately for you there is no case to be made for creationism. The holy fear that creationists have of peer review is evidence enough of that.

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#6 Mar 17, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>I agree that popular science is one-sided but true science offers multiple possibilities. So multiple possibilities should be taught.
So you want to crowd science class with every single creation myth?
True science is that which is testable and observed, which exactly describes modern biology as accepted by the huge mass of the scientific community.

What multiple possibilities are you talking about? In modern science we have all the biological sciences, which includes genetics as well. All of which are tied together perfectly by the theory of evolution.

To date, there are no other scientific theories that explain how life evolved.

But if you have one, a Nobel Prize will be waiting for you.
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#7 Mar 17, 2013
Creationism is obvious for prominent physicists.
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#8 Mar 17, 2013
Pete-o wrote:
True science is that which is testable and observed, which exactly describes modern biology as accepted by the huge mass of the scientific community.
Not exactly. The Common Descent Postulate isn't testable, although it's clear that evolution has happened to some degree.
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#9 Mar 17, 2013
Pete-o wrote:
So you want to crowd science class with every single creation myth?
I see no harm in mentioning the first fundamental theorem of molecular creationism, which is pure physics.

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#10 Mar 17, 2013
Shubee wrote:
Creationism is obvious for prominent physicists.
Care to elaborate? There aren't even that many physicists who beleive in creationism.
Plus, they are not in the biological sciences.
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#11 Mar 17, 2013
Pete-o wrote:
True science is that which is testable and observed, which exactly describes modern biology as accepted by the huge mass of the scientific community.
Unquestionably, when it comes to the biology of HIV, the huge mass of the scientific community is greatly deceived. If they can't grasp the obvious, why should their judgment be trusted on more complex questions?
http://everythingimportant.org/AZT/

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#12 Mar 17, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>Not exactly. The Common Descent Postulate isn't testable, although it's clear that evolution has happened to some degree.
And what is the Common Descent Postulate?

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#13 Mar 17, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>I see no harm in mentioning the first fundamental theorem of molecular creationism, which is pure physics.
And what is that theorem?
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#14 Mar 17, 2013
Pete-o wrote:
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And what is the Common Descent Postulate?
The Common Descent Postulate is the untestable belief that all organisms have a common ancestor. For example, middle-school children are taught that we are all related to oak trees.
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#15 Mar 17, 2013
Pete-o wrote:
And what is that theorem?
The first fundamental theorem of molecular creationism proves that it is perfectly consistent with all the fundamental laws of physics for random atoms to rapidly assemble themselves into a great variety of living things in a single day.

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#16 Mar 17, 2013
Pete-o wrote:
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And what is that theorem?
It looks like it is a Shubert specialty. He is a jerk that got kicked out of the Seventh Day Adventists for being a liar.

Do not go to his website unless you want to be awed by idiocy.

Poor shoob the boob claims to be a professor of math and yet he does not understand the importance of peer review. The one time he did try to get an article peer reviewed it was laughed away by the journal he submitted it to.
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#17 Mar 17, 2013
Pete-o wrote:
Care to elaborate? There aren't even that many physicists who beleive in creationism.
Plus, they are not in the biological sciences.
Scientifically defined, creationism can only mean a fast but fantastically improbable creation of highly organized structures, such as the universe and life itself. According to this definition, Rodger Penrose is a creationist.
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#18 Mar 17, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
The one time he did try to get an article peer reviewed it was laughed away by the journal he submitted it to.
Pathetic Sub duc, you believe that the National Academy of Sciences, National Institutes of Health, the FDA, WHO and UNAIDS all respect legitimate science.
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#19 Mar 17, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
It looks like it is a Shubert specialty. He is a jerk that got kicked out of the Seventh Day Adventists for being a liar.
Is that the most impressive lie that you could come up with?
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#20 Mar 17, 2013
Shubee wrote:
Scientifically defined, creationism can only mean a fast but fantastically improbable creation of highly organized structures, such as the universe and life itself. According to this definition, Rodger Penrose is a creationist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =pEIj9zcLzp0XX
Stephen Hawking also satisfied my definition of a believer in creationism since Hawking says that the universe created itself from nothing. Please note: Since I teach that God is orthogonal to physics, it then follows that I happily acknowledge that a belief in God isn't required to do science.

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