What about world population?

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#1 Apr 25, 2014
I have never heard a good answer to this - can anyone tell me why we only have about 7 billion people in the world? If you take a conservative approach (Darwin's estimates) from 3 propagating couples from the Ark, we would have approx. 6.5 billion people in the world today. If you take it from a very conservative evolution standpoint of a few hundred thousand years we would have trillions of people in the world today - as an evolutionist how do you reconcile this?

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#2 Apr 25, 2014
drjoel14 wrote:
I have never heard a good answer to this - can anyone tell me why we only have about 7 billion people in the world? If you take a conservative approach (Darwin's estimates) from 3 propagating couples from the Ark, we would have approx. 6.5 billion people in the world today. If you take it from a very conservative evolution standpoint of a few hundred thousand years we would have trillions of people in the world today - as an evolutionist how do you reconcile this?
birth and death rate have not been constant. In particular, we know that infant mortaility has decreased significantly over the last couple of centuries. That has sparked a huge increase in population. Also, the number of children each couple has changes over time: those settlers in the US west had many more children who survived than people a century before.

Throughout most of history, disease and war have controlled the growth of the population. Your 'conservative' calculation based on the Noah myth is flat-out wrong because it assumes a constant rate of population growth the whole time. Similarly, your claim that there would be trillions of people in the evolutionary scenario also assumes a constant rate of growth. The assumption is justified in neither case.

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#3 Apr 25, 2014
drjoel14 wrote:
I have never heard a good answer to this - can anyone tell me why we only have about 7 billion people in the world? If you take a conservative approach (Darwin's estimates) from 3 propagating couples from the Ark, we would have approx. 6.5 billion people in the world today. If you take it from a very conservative evolution standpoint of a few hundred thousand years we would have trillions of people in the world today - as an evolutionist how do you reconcile this?
You are making the mistake of assuming that population growth rates are constant.

They aren't. They have varied over time and have even been negative at times.

The liars who came up with the idiocy that you mentioned set a date for the Flud by using Ussher's work and then calculating what rate would be necessary to get today's population from that date. It is not that hard of a math problem. They also conveniently ignore that given their model only a handful of people would have been around to make the first pyramids. The fact is we can measure past populations by genetic diversity. Using the known rates of evolution we can tell there was a great reduction in human population about 70,000 years ago to roughly 10,000 people:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_bottl...

It has grown considerably since then.
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#5 Apr 25, 2014
Heck, the plague in Europe in the 14th century wiped out 1 in 3 people in many countries. Whole villages and counties in England were deserted.

Perhaps that was JESUS at work, culling the population to maintain a healthy numbers, etc.?
The Dude

Wallasey, UK

#6 Apr 25, 2014
drjoel14 wrote:
I have never heard a good answer to this - can anyone tell me why we only have about 7 billion people in the world? If you take a conservative approach (Darwin's estimates) from 3 propagating couples from the Ark, we would have approx. 6.5 billion people in the world today. If you take it from a very conservative evolution standpoint of a few hundred thousand years we would have trillions of people in the world today - as an evolutionist how do you reconcile this?
From a pure numbers standpoint there isn't really a problem having today's population after Noah's crew left the Ark. But there does become a problem when you consider that just 100 years later they were (allegedly) building the Tower of Babel, in which case all the women must have been popping out 10 kids a year for a century to get a realistically sized workforce.

Then genetically speaking, you'd need a population of at least about 50 people if humanity is going to survive without screwing itself to extinction due to an absurdly excessive amount of inbreeding.

And then there is also the TINY problem that NO LIFE AT ALL could survive the Noah's Flood scenario, due to the amount of mass moving simultaneously worldwide in the mother of all storms that lasts for 40 days, worldwide. Noah's boat would quite literally be cooked.

No problem for Godmagic though! Which is why evidence doesn't matter to creationism.

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